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    Teen talk: Should HP have skipped the Veer 4G? | ZDNet

    HP and AT&T launched the HP Veer on 15 May and instead of spending time with it myself I passed it along to my 15-year old daughter Maloree since I figured it was more the kind of device she would enjoy using. I spent a few minutes with it and was not impressed, especially after discovering it functions more like a Pixi than a Pre and wouldn’t let me download and use all the games I purchased on my Pre Plus. Check out the image gallery and Mal’s thoughts on the device below.

    The HP Veer is a very small device with a full QWERTY keyboard. It works with the existing Touchstone charger and has an integrated back that supports placing it on the Touchstone. The display is small and the memory is limited so this is not a power user smartphone.

    Mal’s first impressions
    At first I thought that this phone was way too small, slippery and inconvenient. I did like the white coloring on the outer shell of the device. Also the start up of the phone was really slow and boring. Usually they incorporate some vibrant colors or entertaining logos. The keyboard seemed really small and my thumbs kept hitting each other when I first used it.

    After 10 minutes of use
    The gesture area was very confusing at first and all I knew how to do with it was go back to the home screen. So I recommend going through the tutorial which is under the system page, then scroll down to gesture tutorial. Also when messing around with the phone, I found that you can layer the cards on the home screen or have them side by side to scroll through. When you don’t want that card on the screen anymore you can also throw it away by flinging it upwards. I also thought the email was easy to do, just a normal standard email app.

    After one day of usage
    I went to the Palm App Catalog and looked for some games and apps that are on my iPod touch and sadly they didn’t have many apps available for this device at all. So the only ones I downloaded were Fandango, Facebook, and Backgrounds. Fandango was normal just like any other device. I really enjoyed Facebook and how you can easily download pictures and videos straight to Facebook. I received pictures from my e-mail and then uploaded them straight to Facebook. The phones screen is very clear and high-def for such a small screen and the backgrounds showed up very clear. The battery life lasted exceptionally long for having data and texting.

    Thoughts after one week
    The keyboard started getting easier to use and navigating around the phone became familiar after a week. The messaging had features like Facebook pictures showing up with my contacts and the same photo appearing with phone calls. I text message quite a bit and liked the messaging app. After sending a text it turned a grey color and when successfully sent the color turned green. The person you were having a conversation with had a background color of blue. There was also support for smiley face and other icons.

    When I showed a couple of my friends at school they said things like, “cute!” “I wanna get one it’s so small”, “I love the tiny keyboard and white shell”, “Is this a fake phone?” So this phone got many varied opinions. When talking on the phone it is very awkward to hold and I have average sized hands. Because of the size it can be difficult to text and hold, it’s very slippery. The camera and video quality is poor and sound isn’t picked up very well and the picture is not clear. When talking on the phone the sound is poor and breaks out frequently. The data does load quite fast and it rarely loses service.

    Mal’s recommendations
    This phone might be good for an 8-12 year old because of the size and how it can get boring after a while for teenagers with more experiences with phones. Since children are getting phones so early now it might do OK, but i don’t think many teenagers and rarely any adult will be interested in this device. Also the charger and headphone adapter are like no other phone so that can be very inconvenient. I believe they wasted money and time on making this phone and they could have made one like it, but much better. My dad showed me the website for the Pre 3 and that is one I think I would like to use.

    Matt’s final thoughts
    Mal was more impressed with the HP Veer 4G than I was, likely because she has never really used webOS for an extended period of time. However, even after just a week Mal was bored with the device due to lack of apps and the small display. I signed in with my Palm account, but none of the games I bought on my Pre Plus were available to use on the Veer so it is more like a Pixi with application limitations.

    I also held a couple of calls with Mal and the quality was the worst I have heard on a phone in a long time. She tried speaker and handset modes and with both I heard static and unclear conversations, even when she was in an area that was fairly quiet. I had her call on my wife’s N8 in the same location and the call was crystal clear.

    IMHO, HP should have released the Pre 3 first and then maybe thought about including the Veer with a HP webOS tablet if there strategy is to sell a dual device partnership. The Veer 4G is a downgrade from the Pre Plus and Pre 2 and is not a good device for HP to launch as their first smartphone with webOS.
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    PS, I'm sure HP would rather have released the Pre3 first. We all would. I'm sure they would have if they could have.
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    I'm sorry to say, but this is an average consumer review and why the Veer isn't really the best phone right now. Add that to AT&T doing a truly horrible job of informing people of and pushing it.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    I'm sorry to say, but this is an average consumer review and why the Veer isn't really the best phone right now. Add that to AT&T doing a truly horrible job of informing people of and pushing it.
    Unfortunately so.. CNET was pretty similar. Engadget was lukewarm.

    PCWorld went with 3 stars
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    Well of course a 15 year old girl will get bored of it in a week.
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    Meanwhile, a couple 11- and 12-year-olds seem to be enjoying it just fine.

    "Different strokes" applies to kids, too.

    EDIT: No clue why the link isn't working. See rootdude's recent thread entitled "A 12 year-old geek and a Veer."
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsanchez1 View Post
    Well of course a 15 year old girl will get bored of it in a week.
    You're right about how fickle 15 year old girls are but I think that's more an indictment of webOS than it is the Veer. That's why things like third party support and media ecosystems are so crucial.
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    It was a soft-launch folks... HP has said that they will be putting out a media blitz when the rest of the hardware is hitting. Nothing has 'failed' and nothing has to be the "best phone" as it's a subjective thing anyway The horses are just being lined up at the gate - the race hasn't even started yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantaffordit View Post
    ...guess this is why no one reads anything from zdnet (who?)
    ZDnet is a Ziff-Davis website. They are a part of CBS along with CNET, PCMagazine, geek.com, GameSpot, TechRepublic, etc. Maybe you use download.com?
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    I'm curious about the voice quality issue. I've found this to be highly variable on phones of the same type - across multiple brands. It seems to be more variable than I would like - and it's not clear to me that it's hardware centric.
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    ^ Actually, the voice quality thing piqued my interest as well. I'm by no means a heavy voice user, but the 6-8 calls I've had on my Veer so far have been quite clear, with nice sidetone and a warm quality to the other person's voice. Big surprise to me, after having heard such awful things about AT&T's service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milominderbinder View Post
    ZDnet is a Ziff-Davis website. They are a part of CBS along with CNET, PCMagazine, geek.com, GameSpot, TechRepublic, etc. Maybe you use download.com?
    Again, only Gamespot is of any value in that list. The rest are not worth mentioning (PC Mag is still around? Wow)

    Veer is still lacking in apps. It's an uphill battle but it's a different battle all together. I think the Veer is targeted for non-heavy use, first-time smartphone users. Just not sure how many there are? Lol
    Achill3s' Palm Pre: Modded and patched to death!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by milominderbinder View Post
    ZDnet is a Ziff-Davis website. They are a part of CBS along with CNET, PCMagazine, geek.com, GameSpot, TechRepublic, etc. Maybe you use download.com?
    I use download.com but i dont waste my time on their worn out non-journalism. Their time was up a long time ago and they are a fraction of the size they were in their prime. IMHO.

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