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    So, I have had the past hour or so to play with the T-Mobile HD7 and I wanted to post some initial thoughts -

    Build - Wow! Very nicely put together phone. Solid in every way.

    OS - What can I say, I was a WM user for a long time and then I tried a real OS using the Pre. That being said, this is not WM... at all. Smooth to the point of freakish, Windows Phone OS is awesome. Now, does it beat WebOS? Yes and no. Yes because the processor can handle the OS flawlessly, and no, because I don't have cards.

    Social Media - Yeah, I thought WebOs handled integration well, but this is crazy nice. Some things to take away if I am creating WebOS 2.1.

    Overall, as a Sprint customer, I have no WebOs choice at this point so all I can do is look elsewhere. This phone is the only thing that could tempt me away from Sprint, but I still can't/won't pull the trigger on moving until after CES 2011.

    Come on Palm (HP)!!!!
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    How does jumping from one app to another feel?

    Lets say from the calendar, to email, to messaging to a web page and then back all over again?
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    As quick as it can be without cards. Definitely a huge leap over iOS even with iOS 4. iOS 4 has the sort of dashboard of previously run apps, but on average I would say it took 2 or more fewer steps on WP7 to do the same tasks on my iPod touch 4. It was very quick. Now it has no true multitasking, but I was able to get from on thing to another without being irritated. That's saying something.
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    is a wp7 phone coming to sprint? Very sleek looking ui
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    Slider updated version of the Touch Pro 2. Looks really nice as well.
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    tried the focus and surround at ATT and I was shocked at how poorly designed the os is. The tiles are nice but everything else looks as if it was designed by first graders.
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    pogey,

    from webos to wp7, how do you like the boxes they use instead of icons like webos uses? whenever I see it, it just doesn't look... nice to me. I don't know how to explain it.

    but you can't judge a book by it's cover, that's my reasoning behind the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotionxxUSxx View Post
    tried the focus and surround at ATT and I was shocked at how poorly designed the os is. The tiles are nice but everything else looks as if it was designed by first graders.
    I think that was the point. It is really easy and still has the features needed to be competitive. Easy is what they were trying for. Now as far as design on ATT, I would recommend checking out the Dell phone. Much nicer.

    Quote Originally Posted by tooearly View Post
    pogey,

    from webos to wp7, how do you like the boxes they use instead of icons like webos uses? whenever I see it, it just doesn't look... nice to me. I don't know how to explain it.

    but you can't judge a book by it's cover, that's my reasoning behind the question.
    I think it works. It took me a second to become acclimated to how it works though. Like I said, the card metephor in action is definitely the best way to get things done, but giving each task a page is nice as well.
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    from what I've seen from videos, I like how hubs and apps are done. It either extends the app into 3dimentions, or into a panorama that you can pan through. I was just watching the ios 4.2 video for ipad, and I think ios has lost it's elegence, and wp7 stomps on it in design.

    @tooearly, I'm so bored with icons, lol. I think the tiles are cool, + they display some @a glance information, which icons in webos don't. I think icons are a remnant of ios, which has migrated to all other mobile os's but wp7. I like that wp7 took some artistic license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patricksmangan View Post
    from what I've seen from videos, I like how hubs and apps are done. It either extends the app into 3dimentions, or into a panorama that you can pan through. I was just watching the ios 4.2 video for ipad, and I think ios has lost it's elegence, and wp7 stomps on it in design.

    @tooearly, I'm so bored with icons, lol. I think the tiles are cool, + they display some @a glance information, which icons in webos don't. I think icons are a remnant of ios, which has migrated to all other mobile os's but wp7. I like that wp7 took some artistic license.
    I like icons though, there's no need to take up all that space with big tiles. I've been used to squares since my old Sony CLIÉ and icons have come a lonnngg way from then. And like weathericon, you can add information at a glance. I have that in my wave bar, it's really nice. Granted you can't have a whole slew of information on it, but that's what the full app is for.



    Pogey,

    Can you compare an app on WP7 to a WebOS app? i.e. pandora or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patricksmangan View Post
    is a wp7 phone coming to sprint? Very sleek looking ui
    Not until the second half of the year. For now, Microsoft and its OEMs are focusing on GSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooearly View Post
    I like icons though, there's no need to take up all that space with big tiles. I've been used to squares since my old Sony CLIÉ and icons have come a lonnngg way from then. And like weathericon, you can add information at a glance. I have that in my wave bar, it's really nice. Granted you can't have a whole slew of information on it, but that's what the full app is for.



    Pogey,

    Can you compare an app on WP7 to a WebOS app? i.e. pandora or something?
    I used Facebook quite a bit, but did not run Pandora. Facebook was a breeze and since I already like the Zune, the music app was leaps beyond the vanilla WebOs one. Overall, I think they did a great job of integrating the OS with social media and music. It really was a pleasure to use.

    WebOs is a much more resource hungry OS and consequently app load times are much longer on the Pre. When the next generation of WebOs devices debut, I expect that the OS will be butter just like WP7.

    Quote Originally Posted by neutron View Post
    Not until the second half of the year. For now, Microsoft and its OEMs are focusing on GSM.
    I would expect the the HTC 7 Pro to be available February at the latest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogeypre View Post
    As quick as it can be without cards. Definitely a huge leap over iOS even with iOS 4. iOS 4 has the sort of dashboard of previously run apps, but on average I would say it took 2 or more fewer steps on WP7 to do the same tasks on my iPod touch 4. It was very quick. Now it has no true multitasking, but I was able to get from on thing to another without being irritated. That's saying something.
    What is the process to switch apps? Can you explain it? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDG View Post
    What is the process to switch apps? Can you explain it? Thanks.
    I do not think there currently is one. They have a back button to go back to a previously used application. There is currently no multi-tasking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotionxxUSxx View Post
    I do not think there currently is one. They have a back button to go back to a previously used application. There is currently no multi-tasking.
    Not multitasking. Just how to get from one app to another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDG View Post
    Not multitasking. Just how to get from one app to another.
    I haven't had a chance to use WP7 yet but Anandtech touched on how the back button works for app switching in their review and it sounds pretty cool:

    Let’s say you’re typing a text message and you want to double check something you received in an email. There’s no conventional multitasking support so while you’re in the messaging app you’ll hit the Start button, and tap the email tile to find the message you were looking for. Now to get back to your text message, in a conventional smartphone OS without multitasking you’d hit the home/start button, and launch the messaging app again. That’s how it used to work in iOS. In Windows Phone however, hitting the back button will take you out of the email app and back to the last app you were in. In this case, that would be the messaging app.

    [...]

    It sounds like a complex series of rules but honestly it just works for the most part. The back button really shines when you launch an app from within another app. Then there’s no going back to the Start screen, you just switch between the app you’re currently at and the one you were at prior to it. It’s like a one-tap task switcher.

    The back button doesn’t completely negate the need for iOS style multitasking, but it gets you around 90% of the way there.
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    back button to go back to were you were in previous apps (i believe) not including start menu. Start button to goto start menu (tiles). You can put contacts, hubs, apps, almost anything on your start menu as a tile, then tap to go there. For a list of all installed apps, from the start menu, swipe to go to your left.

    I don't know if the start button allways takes you to your tiles or where you were last between tiles and app list
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    Quote Originally Posted by patricksmangan View Post
    is a wp7 phone coming to sprint? Very sleek looking ui
    IMHO i would only switch to wp7 maaaayybbbeee iOS if sprint doesnt offer something better than the pre2
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickDG View Post
    Not multitasking. Just how to get from one app to another.
    It's the integration of the apps that I was most concerned with. Email/Text/Facebook all really using the same buttons. It didn't require much effort to move between them because I could message what I wanted with what I wanted without having to open a new app.

    The back button was nice as well, and I found myself using it between email and facebook.

    Like I said, I use my phone for email and Facebook for work. The integration between the two made it really easy and quick to get to.

    I will say again that it is no WebOs, but I like it better than iOS.
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    well, thought that's how synergy was gna work too. Maybe when it's opened up in 2.0
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