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    This is an incredible number of devices. It highlights how the mobile space Palm will be launching into next year is going to be very different from 2009.


    Apple projected to ship 130M iOS devices in 2014 as Android hits 259M

    By Neil Hughes
    Published: 11:20 AM EST
    Apple is projected to sell 130 million iOS-based mobile devices per year by 2014, but both Google Android and Nokia Symbian are expected to each double that amount, according to Gartner.

    The research firm said on Friday it believes that both Symbian and Android will account for 59.8 percent of all mobile OS sales by the year 2014. It sees Apple's iOS, which powers the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch, coming in third place with a market share of 14.9 percent.

    Even with annual sales half that of its competitors, Apple would still be selling 130 million units per year in Gartner's projections. To put that in perspective, Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs revealed last week that his company has sold 120 million iOS devices in total since the iPhone launched in 2007.

    Gartner sees the market share of iOS growing in 2011 to 17.1 percent, up from an anticipated 15.4 percent in 2010. The firm expects Apple to sell a total of 70.7 million iOS devices next year.

    Last month, Gartner claimed that shipments of smartphones running Android had passed the iPhone, thanks to its availability on numerous carriers and devices.

    This year, Gartner has projected sales of 47.5 million Android devices, good for a 17.7 percent market share, slightly edging out Apple. By 2014, that number is seen rising to 259 million, or a 29.6 percent share -- within spitting distance of Nokia's anticipated 30.2 percent market share.

    "The worldwide mobile OS market is dominated by four players: Symbian, Android, Research In Motion and iOS," said Roberta Cozza, principal research analyst at Gartner. "Launches of updated operating systems — such as Apple iOS 4, BlackBerry OS 6, Symbian 3 and Symbian 4, and Windows Phone 7 — will help maintain strong growth in smartphones in 2H10 and 2011 and spur innovation. However, we believe that market share in the OS space will consolidate around a few key OS providers that have the most support from CSPs and developers and strong brand awareness with consumer and enterprise customers."
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    I wonder if Google regrets giving Android away for free. If they got $10 per handset, that's 2.5billion dollars...
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    I don't think Google is hurting for money.

    As for the projections... those never take into account market saturation. You cannot continue to have growth without a plateau.

    That being said, it all depends on what they decide to put iOS and Android on. Toasters anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantaffordit View Post
    I wonder if Google regrets giving Android away for free. If they got $10 per handset, that's 2.5billion dollars...
    They make plenty of money because you have to pay to get a license for their apps and the market, and then of course, lots of ad revenue too.

    But yeah....it's going to be hard avoiding Android going forth. I look forward to seeing these reported UI changes coming with Gingerbread/3.0.
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    Regarding saturation, you have some people around here who look at the entire mobile phone market as the potential market for smartphones and say that there is plenty of room for the #5 or #6 player (behind Android, iOS, RIM, Nokia, Microsoft).

    I think the carriers are going to have a lot to do with whether webOS will gain any traction. Already, you can see AT&T and Verizon aren't exactly going out of their way to keep their webOS customers happy with the scheduled OTA updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UntidyGuy View Post
    Regarding saturation, you have some people around here who look at the entire mobile phone market as the potential market for smartphones and say that there is plenty of room for the #5 or #6 player (behind Android, iOS, RIM, Nokia, Microsoft).

    I think the carriers are going to have a lot to do with whether webOS will gain any traction. Already, you can see AT&T and Verizon aren't exactly going out of their way to keep their webOS customers happy with the scheduled OTA updates.
    The problem with NOT being #1 or #2 is the third party support. The market is thriving on the extendability (applications) of their device right now and with Android, developers are just now beginning to migrate to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pogeypre View Post
    I don't think Google is hurting for money.

    As for the projections... those never take into account market saturation. You cannot continue to have growth without a plateau.

    That being said, it all depends on what they decide to put iOS and Android on. Toasters anyone?
    the smart phone market is far from saturated. Even today apple is losing market share to android all while increasing the total number of subcribers. That's cause most people still don't have smartphones. And most it's only september. Many of the IOS devices have not yet been released in places like China, and markets in the far east, parts of Europe, and south America. That is where apple will make it's money throughout the rest of the year. as for Andriod i'll be very interested to see the new UI in Gingerbread too. They say it will look like the gallery app with lots of transparency.

    Quote Originally Posted by barkerja View Post
    The problem with NOT being #1 or #2 is the third party support. The market is thriving on the extendability (applications) of their device right now and with Android, developers are just now beginning to migrate to.
    yeah i think developer support is a big problem for Palm. Me i want apps. major apps and companies just aren't that interested in making webos apps. Even with all this talk that it's apparently cake to port apps. well if so they aren't doing it. this is old but interesting. according to Admob, back in April, a survey showed very little developer interest in developing for webos. http://metrics.admob.com/2010/04/mob...-appcelerator/ behind even Blackberry, windows 7 and symbian. Those aren't even known for apps. And at least in the U.S. nokia barely even sells phones. but clearly at least in april developers where very interested in developing for webos and its shows in the type of names we see bringing out apps or lack of names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackmagic01 View Post
    the smart phone market is far from saturated. Even today apple is losing market share to android all while increasing the total number of subcribers. That's cause most people still don't have smartphones. And most it's only september. Many of the IOS devices have not yet been released in places like China, and markets in the far east, parts of Europe, and south America. That is where apple will make it's money throughout the rest of the year. as for Andriod i'll be very interested to see the new UI in Gingerbread too. They say it will look like the gallery app with lots of transparency.



    yeah i think developer support is a big problem for Palm. Me i want apps. major apps and companies just aren't that interested in making webos apps. Even with all this talk that it's apparently cake to port apps. well if so they aren't doing it. this is old but interesting. according to Admob, back in April, a survey showed very little developer interest in developing for webos. Mobile Developer Survey from Appcelerator AdMob Metrics behind even Blackberry, windows 7 and symbian. Those aren't even known for apps. And at least in the U.S. nokia barely even sells phones. but clearly at least in april developers where very interested in developing for webos and its shows in the type of names we see bringing out apps or lack of names.
    Because that's a myth. The only applications that are easy to port are games written in OpenGL-ES, anything else is native to the platform it's on due to framework and language constraints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barkerja View Post
    Because that's a myth. The only applications that are easy to port are games written in OpenGL-ES, anything else is native to the platform it's on due to framework and language constraints.
    well i know little about developing so i'll have to take your word for it. Unfortunately games aren't really my thing on a phone so that's not great news.


    and on to the issue of saturation Barrons is reporting that "the iPad is supposed to start shipping in Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru tomorrow" Apple Jumps on Report of Latin America iPad Shipments - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com Which kinda gets at my point that for most of these platforms they aren't at a point of saturation yet cause many haven't even been released in parts of the world.

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