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    I finally made the switch and left my Prism and got the Sony T665C. All I can say right now, I've only had it since yesterday) is that it is GREAT being able to carry my PDA in my shirt pocket again. Something I could never do with the Prism.

    The screen is easy on the eyes and I can actually read it outside. So Far So Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Jonathan
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    I'm finally making the switch today (and from a VDx too). Amazon.com has THE MOST AMAZING DEAL. You get with it:

    1. $50 Amazon gift certificate
    2. 32 MB memory stick
    3. $40 off software (although that's a sony offer, not Amazon)
    4. Free shipping

    I'm buyin today. . . .
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    Originally posted by ernieba1
    I'm finally making the switch today (and from a VDx too). Amazon.com has THE MOST AMAZING DEAL. You get with it:

    1. $50 Amazon gift certificate
    2. 32 MB memory stick
    3. $40 off software (although that's a sony offer, not Amazon)
    4. Free shipping

    I'm buyin today. . . .
    Do keep us informed of your battery life experiences. Seriously. I really mean it. I'm honestly interested.
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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    Do ya think battery life will be a daily problem, even if i recharge every night? Uh oh.
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    Originally posted by ernieba1
    Do ya think battery life will be a daily problem, even if i recharge every night? Uh oh.
    I have no idea. That's why I asked. I'm curious as to what sort of battery life those things have (under what sort of usage pattern), because it's currently a device I'm considering.
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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    I'm probably the wrong person to speak to battery life on my 665 but I will anyway. It's no problem for me, a moderate user, as whenever I'm at work and not using it, it sits in the cradle being recharged. So battery level is almost always full.

    On weekends when I'm not in my office, battery level is more than sufficient to last me until I can charge it again.
    Jonathan
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    Originally posted by jhappel
    I'm probably the wrong person to speak to battery life on my 665 but I will anyway. It's no problem for me, a moderate user, as whenever I'm at work and not using it, it sits in the cradle being recharged. So battery level is almost always full.

    On weekends when I'm not in my office, battery level is more than sufficient to last me until I can charge it again.
    No, actually, if you're a moderate user, then you're the ideal person for me to ask about battery life. I'm not a big MP3 listener. What sort of stuff do you use it for over the weekend?
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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    Hey, give me about 2 weeks (Clie to arrive, and school to start) and I'll tell you how it holds up in HEAVY usage, unless you want to go for the amazon deal now. Ends tommarow.

    Sony CLIE PEG-T665C/U Handheld
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    Toby asked: What sort of stuff do you use it for over the weekend?
    I never listen to MP3's at all, I wouldn't even know how to get them. Most weekends I use my 665 almost entirely for its core uses: looking up phone numbers, keeping track of my appointment, to do list, etc. All of these probebly no more than a total of a couple of hours per weekend, if not less. much less often I will use it to write things for my consulting (political races) business. Maybe write a speech to be given, responses to press, etc. for when I don't have my laptop with me. Total average of less than one hour per weekend.

    Hope this helps.
    Jonathan
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    If your listening to MP3's you will get not much more than 3 hours of continous usage. If your playing Bedazzled - it's about the same with the light on.

    I've had a 665C for about 3 weeks now and that's pretty much the average time. It's not great but if you are using the device as a normal Palm user would then battery life will not be a problem. You'll get two weeks worth of useage before having to recharge. It's the music and the games that will drain the battery.
    Moose Man
    Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
    iPhone 3G, Treo 750, 680, 650, 600 and T5, T3, T, M515, M505, Vx, V, Prizm, Visor, IIIc, IIIe, Palm Pilot Professional, Palm Pilot (ok boys and girls a whopping 128k of memory - those were the days) and former Palm Beta tester.
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    Originally posted by jhappel
    [...] Hope this helps.
    It did.
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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    Originally posted by RSGMOOSE
    If your listening to MP3's you will get not much more than 3 hours of continous usage. If your playing Bedazzled - it's about the same with the light on.
    Those are two things that I've not found myself wanting to do. The photo album aspects are one of the few uses I have for color. I'm one of the only people I know whom others actually solicit for kid pics. They're also usually surprised when I don't have any other than the ones in SplashPhoto on my Visor (I don't carry a wallet, so I've no place for real pics).
    I've had a 665C for about 3 weeks now and that's pretty much the average time. It's not great but if you are using the device as a normal Palm user would then battery life will not be a problem. You'll get two weeks worth of useage before having to recharge. It's the music and the games that will drain the battery.
    Great. Now the only issue I'd have to get over is that proprietary memory format.
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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    Originally posted by Toby
    [B]Those are two things that I've not found myself wanting to do. The photo album aspects are one of the few uses I have for color. I'm one of the only people I know whom others actually solicit for kid pics. They're also usually surprised when I don't have any other than the ones in SplashPhoto on my Visor (I don't carry a wallet, so I've no place for real pics).Great. Now the only issue I'd have to get over is that proprietary memory format.
    Ditto: I don't carry hard copy pics of my wife or kids since I only use a front pocket wallet.

    With regards to the proprietary memory issue - if your not going to use MP3 then don't spring for the Magic Gate memory cards (white) the regular blue memory cards will work for pics.

    The primary reason for the MP3's in my case is when flying rather than pulling out the laptop and having to carry around CD's I can get nearly 3 cd's on a 128MB MG card which is of course better than 3 hours of music and hence better then the normal battery life.

    Toby, if you get the 665C or another Sony unit and you use XP with Norton System Works (specifically WinDoctor) be careful of problems that Norton causes when checking the disk after installation - it will goof up the registry. If you need further details on this let me know. I'm at a hotel at the moment that I can only connect at 14.4 and I'm going through spasms waiting for page refreshes etc.

    I've informed Norton of their issues and Sony Tech Support (good guys at the specialist level). But I haven't seen any updates to either's FAQ sections.

    Time for bed since this 14.4 connection takes hours to load.
    Moose Man
    Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
    iPhone 3G, Treo 750, 680, 650, 600 and T5, T3, T, M515, M505, Vx, V, Prizm, Visor, IIIc, IIIe, Palm Pilot Professional, Palm Pilot (ok boys and girls a whopping 128k of memory - those were the days) and former Palm Beta tester.
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    Originally posted by Toby
    ...Great. Now the only issue I'd have to get over is that proprietary memory format.
    That's funny, I just purchased a CF modem and ethernet card. It's an irritation to try and troubleshoot networking when you have to first ascertain whether or not the cable is even good. Not to mention much faster sync times. *added* I forgot to mention you can get the 128MB SD card from Amazon for ~$65.

    As an aside, I ran in to the owner of a local grocery store at my former high school with an iPaq. He was having trouble with his 64MB SD card (it was showing it had a 1.3GB file on it), but he couldn't delete it. I was able to format it with my handera - something he said he wasn't able to do with his iPaq. Anyone happen to know if that's true (he mentioned that he may have been able to do so, but he wasn't going to hunt around in all his menu's to try and find it).
    Last edited by dick-richardson; 08/27/2002 at 09:08 AM.
    -Joshua
    I've decided to become enigmatic.
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    Can I put MP3s on normal memory sticks? Or do I NEED to have those special memory gate thingies?
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    Originally posted by ernieba1
    Can I put MP3s on normal memory sticks? Or do I NEED to have those special memory gate thingies?
    Yes, you can put MP3s on normal memory sticks. I use a regular 32 MB card for MP3s and it is working just fine. I believe that there are some copy protected files (don't ask me what those are) that do require an MG card but I doubt you will run into any of those.

    Just put your MP3s in /Palm/Programs/MSAudio and all should be good.

    JAson
    Did you just go near a burning hot river of lava or are you just happy to see me?
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    Originally posted by ernieba1
    Can I put MP3s on normal memory sticks? Or do I NEED to have those special memory gate thingies?
    The supplied software from Sony does that proprietary ATRAC 3 conversion.

    If you are downloading MP3 files then you are good to go as outlined in the previous post.

    If you are converting CD's to a playable format using the Sony supplied software then you'll need the Magic Gate card.
    Last edited by RSGMOOSE; 08/27/2002 at 09:27 PM.
    Moose Man
    Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
    iPhone 3G, Treo 750, 680, 650, 600 and T5, T3, T, M515, M505, Vx, V, Prizm, Visor, IIIc, IIIe, Palm Pilot Professional, Palm Pilot (ok boys and girls a whopping 128k of memory - those were the days) and former Palm Beta tester.
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    WHEW. Thanks.

    I finally got it, it looks cool, but I haven't used it to do anything, including checking battery life, yet.
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    I am soooo mad. I got the Handango credit, but it can only be used on a certain selection of programs here: http://sony.handango.com/backtoschool . I was planning to get Datebk5, but nooooooooo, only the few programs there, the useful ones I already own. It wasn't clear from the promoting either, that it wasn't just ANY programs. Oh well, I guess I gotta choose something there.
    -Bernie

    "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'.
    -Dan Quayle
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    Originally posted by ernieba1
    I am soooo mad. I got the Handango credit, but it can only be used on a certain selection of programs here: http://sony.handango.com/backtoschool . I was planning to get Datebk5, but nooooooooo, only the few programs there, the useful ones I already own. It wasn't clear from the promoting either, that it wasn't just ANY programs. Oh well, I guess I gotta choose something there.
    So...even Sony's sales promotions are proprietary?
    ‎"Is that suck and salvage the Kevin Costner method?" - Chris Matthews on Hardball, July 6, 2010. Wonder if he's talking about his oil device or his movie career...
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