View Poll Results: Are you upgrading to EVO when you are eligible?

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  • Heck Yes! I can't wait to get my hands on that bad boy!

    286 32.06%
  • No Way! I <3 my WebOS and won't upgrade to any other OS

    222 24.89%
  • Maybe, depends on how much it will cost me out of pocket.

    80 8.97%
  • Not just yet. I'm happy with my Pre... for now...

    286 32.06%
  • What the heck is an EVO?

    18 2.02%
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  1. #2841  
    Persistent issues I have with my Pre for 8 months:
    -Phone stuck in headset mode almost whenever I use a headset.
    -Plastic phone casing scratches too easily.
    -Sluggish UI (but has been fixed ever since 800 mhz OC)

    Persistent issues I have with my Evo for 1 week:
    -Schizophrenic battery life
    -Screen glass seperating
    -Crackling earpiece
    -Sluggish UI & Poor 3D game selection/performance
    -Poor Wifi reception

    I am very hesitant to return my Evo but I'm positive the only reasons are the large screen and cool factor of a new device. It would be great if suddenly all or most of those problems could be fixed.

    Battery life is one of my biggest concerns. Palm Pre, WiFi and GPS on at all times. No monitoring my usage or apps running etc. I got 14+ hours every single day for months with regular daily use. I've had my Evo with me at work for 7 hours now and its down to 30% and all I did was send about 15 texts, check facebook less than 5 times, and talk on the phone for 3 minutes.

    All in all, very disappointed by Evo, and even as much so by Android (which I've never used before) I wish Palm would announce a new device so I wouldnt feel like I was missing out by returning the Evo.
  2. #2842  
    I have made the switch last week and can't say enough about Evo. Pre was good but its no Evo.

    Battery in Evo is far better then pres.

    No WiFi issues at all.

    Android market is filled with goodies
  3. #2843  
    I had the Evo for 2 days & returned it. I really did not like Android.
  4. #2844  
    Wow you got all the issues in 1 unit. Absolutley return it for another EVO or to go back to your PRE. You got a really bad EVO and its not indicative of most Evos. The battery is way better the then Pre. Its also a bigger battery so thats not exactly unexpected. BUT I think you sound like you dont really like the EVO so I would go back to the PRE for now and see what happens with HP and if they decided to release a new webos phone in the next 6-12 months. Otherwise you will just wind up hating your EVO.Dont keep the EVO just because you dont think HP will put a new phone out. You really have to like your cellphone.
    I would say try another phone also but alot of the new Sprint phones ( like the galaxy) are Android phones. But rememeber the Android OS that you are using now is getting a huge change with Froyo ( 2.2) I purchased the EVO knowing that Android while getting better isnt as good a OS as WEBOS BUT Froyo is pretty close and the EVO should be getting Froyo by the end of the summer I believe.

    Again I think you should follow your instincts but it sounds like the Pre is for you for now. Buy your PRE some flowers , take it on vacation , beg for forgivness and I am sure she will forgive you for cheating with a EVO.
  5. #2845  
    Exactly.

    I think I have time before the 30 days is up to swap for another Evo... will it be brand new? Mine was from a ReadyNow Sprint Store.

    If I'm still undecided before 30 days I will probably return the phone. The worst decision I could make would be to waste my upgrade discount on a phone I wasn't happy with. This way I could see how Froyo treats Evo (although I'm a stock kind of guy so as great as Sense UI is I can still "feel" its presence) because it honestly is the best looking Android phone so far. Galaxy S Pro looks to compete with Evo but is ugly as sin.

    Will Android ever catch up to iPhone or even Pre for gaming? I've seen videos for Froyo... some kind of new sdk? Maybe I need to watch again. And read some more forums.
  6. #2846  
    evo evo evo evo. who needs android central when i can just come here to get my healthy dose of evo news?
  7. #2847  
    But it sounds like grizzly's Pre also has issues. The headset issue would annoy me to no end. And this is a known problem for Palm, why wasn't it fixed?
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  8. #2848  
    Yeah whats up with that. I had those head phone issues with my Treo , Cantro and Pre. I never used head sets on my PRE cause it would mess up the volume . I actually have not used it on my EVO as I afraid. Too many bad head phone issues got me jittery.
  9. #2849  
    Quote Originally Posted by LupeValenz View Post
    Pre just needs labels support and starring emails to be on par with the gmail app.
    I can do those things on my Pre. Move it to a folder on the Pre and it does the same in Gmail. Flag message on Pre and it stars it in Gmail.
    If God brought you to it He'll bring you thru it!
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    #2850  
    I bought the EVO and returned it to go back to the pre.

    Android OS is clunky and hard to navigate.

    There are always extra buttons to hit, to get to the info you need.

    The front facing camera only works on Skype and with other EVO users.

    There is no Chat - SMS integration.

    You can't control which applications remain open.

    It is really big...... really big.

    I think Iphone has picked the largest screen size that is comfortable to use.

    and that's it
  11. #2851  
    Sorry,

    WebOS is quite intuitive, but if you are having trouble navigating Android, just throw the Pre in the trash and go get an iPhone. Seriously, Android is about as simple as it gets. If you can't handle it, then really, I don't think you have any hope.

    It's not as pretty as webOS but it's certainly more functional.
  12. #2852  
    Quote Originally Posted by 22350 View Post
    I bought the EVO and returned it to go back to the pre.

    Android OS is clunky and hard to navigate.

    There are always extra buttons to hit, to get to the info you need.

    The front facing camera only works on Skype and with other EVO users.

    There is no Chat - SMS integration.

    You can't control which applications remain open.

    It is really big...... really big.

    I think Iphone has picked the largest screen size that is comfortable to use.

    and that's it

    Droid Incredible is 3.7 or 3.8, and fits very well in the hand.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  13. #2853  
    My mom and brother have this phone and while its agreat phone, it lacks a physical keyboard (HUGE for me) and I very much prefer webos to android, although i would readily use either OS.
    Misc electronic organizers > Cassiopeia > palm pilot III > Palm Pilot VII/Zire 21 > Treo 90 > Treo 650 > PPC6700 > Treo 755p > PPC6800 > Palm Pro > Palm Pre
  14. #2854  
    tired of waiting for palm and webos to do something. To slow of a process for me. I dont like the waiting game. webos needs a new phone its already outdated.
  15. #2855  
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggrey View Post
    I can do those things on my Pre. Move it to a folder on the Pre and it does the same in Gmail. Flag message on Pre and it stars it in Gmail.
    Use Gmail on Android then use the Pre.

    The Pre has to do a number of things to be as functional. Otherwise i like the mail app on the Pre outside of the lag.
  16. #2856  
    Quote Originally Posted by grizzly_addams View Post
    Exactly.

    I think I have time before the 30 days is up to swap for another Evo... will it be brand new? Mine was from a ReadyNow Sprint Store.

    If I'm still undecided before 30 days I will probably return the phone. The worst decision I could make would be to waste my upgrade discount on a phone I wasn't happy with. This way I could see how Froyo treats Evo (although I'm a stock kind of guy so as great as Sense UI is I can still "feel" its presence) because it honestly is the best looking Android phone so far. Galaxy S Pro looks to compete with Evo but is ugly as sin.

    Will Android ever catch up to iPhone or even Pre for gaming? I've seen videos for Froyo... some kind of new sdk? Maybe I need to watch again. And read some more forums.
    Yeah they are working on a better SDK...but i think a big issue is the high profile Android devices use Snapdragon whose graphical performance isn't even as good as the Pre. Honestly if 3D gaming is your thing..stay with the iPhone or even the Pre. At least for the time being. Me? I bought 5 games on my Pre and haven't touched them in months. I'm just not a mobile phone gamer. At least not the ones i have on my phone. The golf game was the best probably.

    Quote Originally Posted by kbritt31 View Post
    evo evo evo evo. who needs android central when i can just come here to get my healthy dose of evo news?
    Look at the section you are in...and the thread you are in.

    Seriously?
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    #2857  
    I had an EVO for 11 days. I love it and think it's the best phone right now but missed my physical qwerty because I answer emails and text more than anything else on the phone, so I sold it for $500 and went back to the Pre. If they were the same cost, I'd pick the EVO, but it was a difference of at least $350, and the Pre has upside for what I do most.

    Posted this on Android Central, got called me a ****, said I need medication. Haha, pretty funny how people take sides as if it's sports, religion, politics, etc.
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...body-else.html
  18. #2858  
    Quote Originally Posted by godisgov View Post
    I had an EVO for 11 days. I love it and think it's the best phone right now but missed my physical qwerty because I answer emails and text more than anything else on the phone, so I sold it for $500 and went back to the Pre. If they were the same cost, I'd pick the EVO, but it was a difference of at least $350, and the Pre has upside for what I do most.

    Posted this on Android Central, got called me a ****, said I need medication. Haha, pretty funny how people take sides as if it's sports, religion, politics, etc.
    http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-...body-else.html
    Why didn't you just take it back to the sprint store? And save your update. Now if a pre 2 come out in august or something you will have to wait till next year to get one.
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    #2859  
    Quote Originally Posted by koolkid09 View Post
    Why didn't you just take it back to the sprint store? And save your update. Now if a pre 2 come out in august or something you will have to wait till next year to get one.
    All things considered, I'll be way up even if a Pre 2 dropped within the 30 days. Buy low/sell high.
  20. #2860  
    I'm gone a week or so and this is all I missed?

    People that switched that complain about things not working right when they don't know how to use their phone. Color banding? Wow...someone ran tests? It's a good thing I don't use my phone to run tests on a daily basis or I guess I'd be upset. Just like I don't watch color patterns and test screens on my Sharp big screen that supposedly has color banding issues.

    $10 fee = no caps for bandwidth use. You could stream HD content all day long, do the torrent thing and so on with no slap on the wrist or extra fees. Is it BS? A little bit. If you don't like it, return the phone. But your next Palm phone will be 4g and have the same fee. Galaxy S Pro on 4g, yep, you're paying $10 extra. Build quality on the S Pro looks like crap with cheap plastic and a sparkled battery cover. Not to mention Samsung's horrible rep for supporting phones down the road. You'll probably never get past Froyo with it. Heck, the Behold II isn't even getting 2.1.

    Pretty much every new premier phone requiring an everything plan most likely is going to be a 4g phone and cost you an extra $10. So you can either live with your Pre till the end of time or suck up the $10 and upgrade. Sounds like we're back to the SERO whining.

    My quick rundown...

    Email "handling" is still better on webOS. All types get equally good treatment. Swiping to delete is still nice. Integrated inbox is a plus. Where webOS loses is the ability to have separate icons for each email on my homescreen that shows me how many new emails I have. No need to goto notifications. Might contradict the integrated inbox, but during the day I care more about some accounts than others.

    Multitasking? I don't see how people say it's soooooo much better on webOS. No TMC issues (having to homebrew with custom kernels doesn't count). I can sometimes get to programs quicker via the home button and selecting the app because if I had a bunch of cards to swipe through it's more steps going from left to right or right to left. Press and hold on the home button also brings up recent apps that might not be running so you still get quick access to apps that wouldn't have a card open so to speak.

    Speed? My calendar, contacts and dialer all open quicker. Other apps have also, but it's been a week, and I don't recall which ones I did. I'll revisit though after the next webOS update. In general, everything is snappier on the Evo though, and I overclocked the Pre. The Pixi isn't even in the race. And I do own both phones. And I do look forward to the update we'll get in the fall that should speed things up a bit on both phones.

    For people that complain about things taking more button presses, you obviously haven't customized your homescreens yet. All the things I use most are no more than a swipe and a press at worst. My agenda for the next two plus weeks is always visible on my home screen, color coordinated by work and personal. Sportstap has instant access to my sports scores. Friendstream makes it convenient to just zip through friends' updates on social sites to see if there's anything interesting to respond to.

    Docs to Go....no explanation needed.

    30fps? Hasn't meant much to me. But it will get fixed in a firmware update. Sprint and HTC are getting enough complaints about it.

    Google Nav: for those not on Sprint is nice.

    More voice activated options

    And the size hasn't been a bit issue. I've got a minimalist snap case that fits like a glove, and it's fitting well in the pocket. I can type one handed on it no problem in portrait mode. And I have actual cursor buttons. Imagine that, a secondary way to navigate without having to move my finger across the screen which is never accurate, and I don't need to enlarge the screen to do it. Speaking of typing, I do it easily. I don't like not having tactile feel, but I'm still quick and pretty accurate with the stock keyboards. I do like putting the iphone keyboard on there with a little more space between keys, but you lose the cursor buttons always being there. I'd still prefer a hard keyed keyboard, but I don't see that happening in a phone this big.

    Battery life has been better too. I've gotten through some busy days and haven't feared changing batteries and dealing with the downtime of a cold start. And speaking of cold starting....Evo...much quicker.

    And the Pre's screen is nicer, but the Evo's is still pretty good and sometimes the amount of real estate can make all the difference. We are talking a full inch bigger here. The one disappointing thing is the lack of scaling in Android. I have this bigger, higher res screen and I'm still stuck with a 4x4 icon layout on the homescreen. I don't wear coke bottles. My vision is good. I buy a higher res display to fit more info on the screen at one time, not just make everything bigger. It kinda defeats the purpose. Give my a 5x5 layout on the home screen, and I'd be a much happier camper.

    Pics just for fun...

    Last edited by crogs571; 06/16/2010 at 09:49 PM.
    Pixi: Sold. Pre: Passed off to another rep. Touchpad: Just a toy until Cloud syncing arrives, and a better doc editor.

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