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    Hi all,

    Well Apple sure fund a way to PO a lot of people! If I were them, I would fix their PRPRPR $problem$ $along$ $with$ $all$ $of$ $the$ $problems$ $of$ $the$ $Iphone$!

    Take care,

    Jay


    Is Apple covering up the real problem with its iPhone?By Joel Evans | July 4, 2010, 10:41am PDT

    Is Apple covering up the real problem with its iPhone? | ZDNet

    A couple of days ago Apple sent an open letter to iPhone 4 owners. The letter was in response to earlier reports of iPhone users having reception issues when holding the iPhone 4 the wrong way.

    If you’re not familiar with the reception issues, Sam Diaz does a great job recapping the whole timeline. The crazy part about the latest round, though, is that instead of Apple admitting to a hardware flaw, the company is now saying that it has been misreporting signal strength since the original iPhone.

    Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars.

    So, what does all of this really mean? For starters, I can’t help but think that Apple was just caught doing something slimy. I remember when I was using the first generation iPhone and had reception issues in areas where my other phones were working great. At the time, Apple was blaming AT&T but my other AT&T phones were performing perfectly in that same area where I was dropping calls. Then Apple issued an update which fixed the reception issues, or so it claimed. It seemed that I had more bars “in more places”, but that I still didn’t have the solid coverage I should have been experiencing, given all of the bars I was seeing.

    Now we’ll see an update to the iPhone (all generations) that will properly report the signal strength. The reason for the misreporting all of these years is apparently a bad formula used to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display. So, one software fix and we’ll all see the proper representation of bars. The scary part of all of this, though, is that now instead of people reporting that they saw their bars drop from 5 to 0 when holding their iPhone 4, we’ll be hearing how the phone hardly gets any bars at all.

    I think the end result will be Apple and AT&T both being at fault. Apple with a design flaw, though they’ll never admit it, and AT&T with coverage issues. So, we’ll be back to the world blaming AT&T’s network, and the focus will move off of Apple once again.

    I still can’t help but think that Apple pushed out an update long ago, for the original iPhone, that the company knew was misreporting the signal strength. Now that everyone is complaining, they figure they’ll adjust it to report the true representation of the signal strength, and then deal with the aftermath.

    In the end the iPhone customer loses. The iPhone 4 will have to be held a certain way, and now iPhone users around the world will suddenly see just how poor their cellular signal really is.

    Do you think the signal strength was a coverup from the beginning?
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    Yes, to some extend I do. It's an estimate based on only one aspect of the signal, so it's subject to broad interpretation and it would be easy to rationalize giving yourself the benefit of the doubt...

    I think it works against AT&T when you think you have coverage but your call drops or your data connection is slow. If you know you are in poor coverage, then you can determine if it's a crappy antennae or crappy coverage. When everyone's blackberry has 5 bars, you blame apple if it doesn't have 5 bars.

    If the iPhone shows the same bars as the blackberry, then you blame the network. Smart (and slimy) move by Apple. It's a vague thing to measure anyway, because it's only measuring one aspect of reception if you aren't on a call. That's why you will often see your signal drop when your phone rings, because then it's showing actual signal and not some calculation that is making a guess based on incomplete info.

    Apple must be desperate to avoid admitting to a hardware problem to admit a long-standing and pervasive bug such as this!

    Now the iPhone will be rightfully getting a share of criticism for dropped calls and a slow 3G experience.
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    Hi,

    Apple also doesn't want to supply bumbers for free, which they quite likely may have to do. Ironically, the estimate I have read, is that bumbers cost Apples less than a buck...however they don't want to lose the $30 they make on SELLING you a bumber. This to make up for their poor design and lack of proper field testing.

    Apple was quick to laugh at Palm's lack of proper testing and rushing the Pre to the market place.....yet not just has Apple done the same thing, now they are trying to make an extra $30, (which is almost pure profit), off of it's victims.

    However, Apple must be extremely upset. The DOJ is already investigating Apple over extremely tight handed control on Itunes. Apple's now revoked it's plan to have apps, written in languages that cannot easily be ported to other platforms.

    Of course, now their is a proposed calls action suit...which will cost major $ to defend against, not to mention the cost of all of the bad publicity!

    Jobs must be frantic, trying to hammer out the dents to his integrity!

    Take care,

    Jay

    Take care,

    Jay
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    They don't want to supply the bumpers because it would be an admission of a design defect, opening them up to even more lawsuits, and to bruising to Steve's ego. I don't think the lost revenue is the issue. It's the admission of the problem, and it would ruin the aesthetic of the phone if it became essentially a standard part of the phone... another game they play. they build these great looking devices, and the user had to buy cases and such to protect them - but they don't blame apple because it is the user's decision to bulk up such a beautiful device. If it ships with a standard bumper, it's no longer svelte class and chrome.

    I'm sure they are making modifications to their production process to resolve this (known as an in-line upgrade because it doesn't get a different part number)... companies do in-line updates all the time. By doing it that way, they don't have to recall millions of phones, admit the problem, and use the next 5 months of production to build phones to replace phones they've already sold. That would kill their stock.

    Defending the current suit(s) is way cheaper than essentially admitting the plaintiff's case is valid, and especially having to do a total recall. And, if they have to make an actual change to the design (rather than just coating the antennae during production) they would probably have to go through FCC approval again...

    Instead of owning their mistakes and being big boys about doing the right thing, the lawyers and accountants are running the show - and Steve-O has his ego to think about...

    ...it helps that some don't seem to have the issue, and many are too enamored with Jobs to care. I know several of each. They will learn the hard way when they venture out of the city and find out how bad it is when they are in marginal coverage.

    It really helps to have a customer base that generally (not all, but many) take everything Jobs says or farts and considers it to be divinely inspired and unquestionable.

    my two cents.
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    HI, I agree with your two cents! However, by not woning up to the problem, it makes Apple look worse than MS!

    Take care, Jay
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedessert View Post
    HI, I agree with your two cents! However, by not woning up to the problem, it makes Apple look worse than MS!

    Take care, Jay
    Yep, the crime is never as bad as the coverup. Ask Nixon, Clinton, and Firestone.
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    If Apple doesn't watch out they will self implode. What's that saying, "you can fool some of the people some of the time..."

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