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    When I first saw WebOS' unveiling last June, I immediately made up my mind that WebOS was for me. I was using a WinMo 6.5 device at the time. Although powerful, it was clunky and frustrating at times.

    I tried my friend's Droid and immediately have flashback to WinMo. Sure the UI is improved, but it sure reminded me a lot about WinMo - ugly, powerful, but take too many steps to accomplish something. One of the biggest frustrations with WinMo devices was that there are way too many devices. This is wonderful, but as any WinMo users will tell you, your device is often obsolete and neglected from upgrades because the flashy, shiny new devices are now the 'thing.' I believe they call this 'fragmentation' today. Well, this whole 'left-behind' and not going to be upgraded problem is now starting to show on Android devices. Hmmm... WinMo anyone? Anyone sense the similarity? HTC and Samsung decided to put on their own skin on their Android devices. That was exactly what HTC and Samsung did with their WinMo phones. Deja vu all over again.

    I was initially miffed by how lack of user customization WebOS is, but the more I use it, the more I realize I honest still enjoy the OS without all the customization abilities. Sure, it's a nice thing to have, but not deal-breaker. Everything just works. UI is beautiful and I get things accomplished. At its infancy, WebOS has a tremendous way to go, but it started at the RIGHT direction.

    Chris Pirillo wrote an article to share his thoughts on Android, and I thought it mirrored my impressions exactly. Of course, Android fans attacked him for that. Take a read and share your thoughts. Let's be as fair as we can without resorting to fanaticism.

    Pocketnow article - The Problem with Android: Its Users

    Original source article - The Problem with Google Android: Its Users? ~ Chris Pirillo
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    WebOS makes up for lack of UC with the homebrew patching scene. Sure it's mot a simple as moving some widgets around your home screen, but it can do so much more.
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    Yeah, I went through the same path. I was a long time Windows Mobile users and it became painfully obvious Microsoft had stopped investing in the platform and was not going to be competitive for a long time (if ever).

    Android looked like a modern take on Windows Mobile, but if I was going to change platforms I wanted more than that. The webOS cards and gestures won me over and I bought a Pre. Interaction felt natural instead of forced. I have a Nexus One and I still think it takes way too many clicks to accomplish anything and immediately miss the fluidity of webOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megaman821 View Post
    Yeah, I went through the same path. I was a long time Windows Mobile users and it became painfully obvious Microsoft had stopped investing in the platform and was not going to be competitive for a long time (if ever).

    Android looked like a modern take on Windows Mobile, but if I was going to change platforms I wanted more than that. The webOS cards and gestures won me over and I bought a Pre. Interaction felt natural instead of forced. I have a Nexus One and I still think it takes way too many clicks to accomplish anything and immediately miss the fluidity of webOS.
    You took the words out of my mouth. Android DOES INDEED looked like a modern take on WinMo. I was SO tempted on many occasions to get an Android device to play around with, but I know I will not enjoy it as much. Furthermore, lack of physical kbd is a deal-breaker for me.

    kill_Dano - Yep, I enjoy how the homebrew community enabled many UC. But for the average non-power user, the current UC is adequate, not perfect, but adequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sooby77 View Post
    You took the words out of my mouth. Android DOES INDEED looked like a modern take on WinMo. I was SO tempted on many occasions to get an Android device to play around with, but I know I will not enjoy it as much. Furthermore, lack of physical kbd is a deal-breaker for me.

    kill_Dano - Yep, I enjoy how the homebrew community enabled many UC. But for the average non-power user, the current UC is adequate, not perfect, but adequate.
    Swype for the win. It makes a keyboard obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    Swype for the win. It makes a keyboard obsolete.
    I need tactile feedback and gliding/pecking on a kbd is never going to work for me. It's for some, but not for me.
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    Have you used the latest version? Its gotten better. Especially when you get fast I bet I could out type you on the Pre.
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    even with swype android is still clunky and irritating (to me) im spoiled by webos...
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    2.1 isnt as clunky as previous Android versions and Froyo makes it even better BUT a new version of Android being worked on by the designer of WEB OS an should be coming at the end of the year.
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    I come from Winmo also. As much of an anti Apple person that I am, I would choose iPhone over Andriod. Andriod is just not soothing to the eye. IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by VaccPalm View Post
    2.1 isnt as clunky as previous Android versions and Froyo makes it even better BUT a new version of Android being worked on by the designer of WEB OS an should be coming at the end of the year.
    Google said after Froyo, they will only update once a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gobanjoboy View Post
    Google said after Froyo, they will only update once a year.
    This is not an update but a refresh of the OS redesigned by the WEBOS designer . Here the info


    It's not really a big stretch to come up with, but TechCrunch chief Michael Arrington says he has "multiple sources close to Google" who tell him the stock Android user interface will get a pretty big overhaul in the next version, tentatively nicknamed Gingerbread and possibly headed for release by the end of the year.

    Like we said, it makes sense. Froyo is largely under-the-hood adjustments -- though there are a fair amount of visual tweaks -- so it stands to reason that UI is up next, especially given the acquisition of UI-specialist Matia Duarte, who left Palm and is now User Experience Director for Android.

    According to TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington, Google’s Android team is currently burning the midnight oil working on a UI refresh for it’s ever popular smartphone OS. People familiar with the matter claim that the goal of the refresh is to provide a better user experience which would in turn discourage companies like HTC and Motorola from creating custom UI overlays such as Sense and MOTOBLUR. Despite the popularity of some skins — HTC’s Sense in particular — they can be quite the headache for both Google and users as their being loaded onto a handset is a surefire way to cause temporary fragmentation as the skin has to be reworked for each subsequent OS release.
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    IMO...

    The beauty of WebOS is its percieved simplicity, and how that simplicity is natural to the user.

    We have all been using Windows computers for 20+ years now.. the idea of an application in it's own "window" is inbred to most of us, even Apple users, so, the "card" design concept was a natural carryover from all that.

    It just makes sense, and, then to use the throw away gesture to close an application was pure genius.. even older people, natural neophytes, can get that...

    My daughter has an HTC HD2 with winmo 6.5 and HTC's SenseUI on it. Pretty slick, really. Kinda fun to use, too, but, its a "contrived" design (- just an aritrary design to fit over an OS to make it work the way HTC thinks it should), and, therefore, not as natural to use as WebOS, which is simplicity in its finest form.

    When it comes to User Interface design, the rule is quite clear:

    Keep It Simple Stupid.

    WebOS does just that, in almost all areas, and that is difficult to beat.

    I've heard it from many users here, and other WebOS users: once you get used to working with card view and throwing away cards, everything else just seems, well, "wrong". People who go to other phones and OS's even admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCGuy View Post

    I've heard it from many users here, and other WebOS users: once you get used to working with card view and throwing away cards, everything else just seems, well, "wrong". People who go to other phones and OS's even admit it.


    I was simply amazed at the speed I am navigating WebOS the other day. It was, to quote Dieter, 'stupendous.' It's a true definition of one-handed operation. Although many people gripe about the screen size, I actually like it. It's small enough that my thumb can navigate the entire screen easily, and large enough for me to read comfortably. The best part is, it's small enough to fit in my pocket and not feel like I have a dead-weight slab in my pocket. Of course YMMV.
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    they may have gotten a castoff from palm, but he cant use any of palms secrets.. android is clunky and will always be clunky

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