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    Hi all,

    The Evo isn't the panacea that Sprint wants us to think it is. In fact, the EVO may well prove that Sprint learned nothing, from selling the Pre.

    Take care, Jay

    NY Times review of the EVO:

    A Bold Phone Fades a Bit in the Details
    By DAVID POGUE, June 16, 2010

    State of the Art - Sprint’s Bold Evo Phone Fades a Bit in the Details - NYTimes.com

    Fine print, baby. It’s all about the fine print.

    It’ll get you when you buy a car. When you rent an apartment. When you sign a prenup.

    Most of all, it’ll get you when you buy the new Sprint Evo 4G phone ($200, after rebate, with two-year contract).

    It’s another great-looking, blazingly fast app phone made by HTC and running Google’s Android operating system. Android gives the phone more complexity than the iPhone (its obvious rival), but also provides some sensational features: speech recognition that lets you type by speaking, almost anywhere; an excellent, free turn-by-turn GPS navigation program; and a wireless app store stocked with more than 70,000 little programs.

    Of course, the Evo’s little brother, the terrific HTC Incredible, delivers all of that, too.

    What makes the Evo seem even more spectacular are all the firsts and bests.

    For example, the Evo has an enormous 4.3-inch touch screen that dwarfs those of most phones. You can turn the Evo into a pocket Wi-Fi hot spot, so up to eight people can get online with their laptops. The 8-megapixel camera has dual LED flashes and records hi-def video.

    The Evo is also one of the first app phones that can run Flash videos and animations on the Web, which the iPhone, notoriously, can’t. There’s even a second camera on the front, so you can actually make video calls to other Evo owners. Now you, too, can play **** Tracy, or at least show your Evo-owning grandparents the new baby.

    Above all, the Evo is the first 4G phone in America. That is, it can exploit the fourth-generation cellular towers that Sprint has been building, to bring you much, much faster Web pages and e-mail, and skip-free Internet video.

    Come on — all that sounds amazing. Who wouldn’t sign on the dotted line?

    Unfortunately, these groundbreaking features come with enough fine print to give the White Pages an inferiority complex.

    First, the screen. It’s big, all right, and bright and beautiful (480 by 800 pixels). The hugeness pays off when you’re looking at photos, videos or maps, and whenever you’re reading anything.

    Unfortunately, physics has some fine print of its own — and one of the footnotes says that you can’t have a big screen on a small phone. The Evo is nice and thin, but it’s also tall and wide. It is not for the small of hand. People might mistake it for an iPad Nano.

    The Wi-Fi hot spot business is slick. With a couple of taps, you can turn the Evo’s cellular Internet signal into a Wi-Fi hot spot. Now nearby laptops, game machines and even other smartphones can get online wirelessly through it. It’d be great on long car rides, slow-moving movie shoots and camping trips for those who can’t let go of their technology.

    Actually, make that “short car rides,” “brief movie shoots” and “afternoon camping trips,” because this feature eats through a full battery charge in as little as one hour. (More on the Evo’s amazing disappearing battery in a moment.) And beware: the hot spot feature costs an extra $30 a month.

    O.K., so what about Flash? Isn’t a big deal that the Evo lets you watch Flash videos that its rivals can’t?

    Well, sort of. The Evo runs something called Flash Lite, which is marketing-ese for, “Sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t.” It plays videos on some sites that the iPhone can’t — on Engadget, for example, plus all the blinking ads (a mixed blessing). But it still can’t play the Flash videos on CNN.com or, sadly, TV shows on Hulu.com.

    All right, what about video calling? Surely this is the killer app. Imagine: your friends and family can not just hear you, as with normal phones, but see you as well (assuming they also bought Sprint Evos, of course).

    Well, let’s hope they’re NASA engineers, because this feature is head-bangingly unstable. After two days of fiddling, downloading and uninstalling apps, manually force-quitting programs and waiting for servers to be upgraded, I finally got video calling to work — sort of. Sometimes there was only audio and a black screen, sometimes only a freeze-frame; at best, the video was blocky and the audio delay absurd.

    To make video calling work, you have to install an app yourself: either Fring or Qik. But we never did get Fring to work, and Qik requires people you call to press a Talk button to reply to you. The whole thing is confusing, complex and, to use the technical term, iffy.

    But come on — this is the first 4G phone in America! That’s got to be better than 3G, right?

    Hard to say, since I couldn’t find any 4G reception, even in weeks of traveling. My problem, evidently, was that I was visiting major cities like New York, Boston, Chicago and San Francisco. So far, Sprint has installed 4G coverage in only 32 areas — and they’re bustling metropolises like Boise, Idaho; Wichita Falls, Tex.; High Point, N.C.; and Milledgeville, Ga.

    Fortunately, my Times tech colleague, Roy Furchgott, has three things going for him: he also had an Evo to test, he’s a fellow tech reporter and he lives in Baltimore, one of the 4G cities. So I asked him to put the Evo through its paces for me.

    His tests indicate that 4G Internet downloads are about four times as fast as 3G (averaging 2,693 kilobits a second, versus 676 over 3G). He noted that Internet videos don’t stutter, and of course e-mail attachments fly in.

    He also noted, however, that the 4G signal was “spottier than a kennel of Dalmatians.” At his house, he sees four to five signal bars, but two blocks away there is no reception at all. Furthermore, it takes 20 seconds for the phone to recognize that a 4G signal is available, then six minutes to connect for the first time.

    Meanwhile, Sprint charges you a $10 monthly surcharge to own this phone (on top of the $70 minimum a month for calling, texting and Internet), even if you don’t live in a 4G area and can’t use it. (Sprint points out that this package, with its unlimited data, texting and calls to other cellphones, is still a better deal than Verizon’s or AT&T’s.)

    All of this fine print would probably take at least some of the wind out of any Evo devotee’s sails. But the big letdown is battery life.

    If you charge this phone all night long, then leave the house at 8 a.m., you’ll find its battery charge at 50 percent by early afternoon, even if you don’t make a single call or send a single e-mail message. By quitting time, or dinner time if you’re lucky, it’s completely dead. On this phone, the battery gauge practically shrivels as you’re looking at it.

    Sprint suggests that you turn the 4G feature on and off as needed throughout the day to save juice — but that’s rearranging crackers on plates on deck chairs on the Titanic. This phone has far bigger battery-life problems, including its incredibly fast (but power-hungry) processor, the Android system’s multitasking feature, and of course the super features like the Wi-Fi hot spot.

    The good news is that most of the disappointing, flaky and mediocre aspects of the Evo all pertain to its cutting-edge features. Thousands of people don’t actually care about 4G or hot spots or video calling. They take pleasure in the Evo’s less exotic features: sizzling speed, smooth software, ingenious layout of the five home screens, and even the little kickstand that props the thing up when you’re watching a video.

    Beyond that, the Evo is basically a technology demo. It’s a glimpse at the high-speed, smooth-video future of this country’s cell systems, at least for people who live in those 32 lucky hamlets.

    Someday soon, of course, you’ll stumble across a news item like, “4G Networks Now Blanket the Country; Refined Phones Overcome Battery-Life Problems.” When that headline comes along, it will be some fine print, indeed.
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    Interesting reading. Thanks for pasting it in.
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    everything you said I think most of us already kno nothing new hear
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJKinsman View Post
    Interesting reading. Thanks for pasting it in.
    Your welcome, my pleasure! Take care, Jay
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    I thought Chicago was a 4G city?
    THIS IS HOW WE HANDLE BUSINESS
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    As I've said before... the Emperor has no clothes

    Thanks for the article, hopefully you saved somebody some $$$
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    Yes Chicago is on the 4G list. 1st reason to discard this "review".
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    I work downtown Chicago and our company was testing 4G equipment for the City. It's good when you get a signal, but the reviewer is right. In our tests to look into utilizing this for MOSE events (festivals like the Taste of Chicago, or Blues Fest), the signal was so spotty that our equipment kept dropping connection in the middle of even small file transfers. It's still a very young technology with lots of potential. But its got a ways to go.
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    This guy sounds biased to me though. Wanna bet he loves iPhones?
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    ...so much for drowning out my IP4 desires...
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    Sprint's HTC Evo, the First Ever 4G Phone: Meet the New Terrific

    gizmodo says otherwise, even after the hands on impressions.

    point is, there are just as many positive reviews as negatives, for every product ever... amazing find LOL
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    Whats with the Pre crowd really trying to downgrade the Evo?

    Its getting a bit sad....I have a Pre but to deny that the Evo has MANY positives over the Pre at the time is silly. We'll see what Palm shows us for the next phone...but i'm getting pretty tired of waiting 5 plus seconds for an email to open (yes i have the 800mhz patch)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brain Mantis View Post
    Whats with the Pre crowd really trying to downgrade the Evo?

    Its getting a bit sad....I have a Pre but to deny that the Evo has MANY positives over the Pre at the time is silly. We'll see what Palm shows us for the next phone...but i'm getting pretty tired of waiting 5 plus seconds for an email to open (yes i have the 800mhz patch)
    Why isn't your email left open? Although i know what you mean :P.

    I usually focus on OS much more than i do hardware. Because hardware is usually similar. Usually. The Pre's hardware build though is too shoddy to ignore though.
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    I kinda like the way he reviewed the phone...i want to say I sense a lil bit of being bias, but honestly I don't. Good read
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    We're not downgrading the EVO we are adding proper perspective after a bunch of Steve Jobs wannabe, ship jumping, Android terrorists hijacked our site and built it up as the most beautiful, awe inspiring creation since woman!

    Now it is time for everyone to realize that the EVO is just another phone and move on. We can stop wallpapering the forums w/ it's magic & promise and we can stop making every other post about the EVO outselling the Pre...oh wait, Sprint was wrong...oh, wait don't get too excited Pre owners it was closer but not close.

    Sure the Pre may not be better than the EVO in terms of features and hardware specs...but running faster or jumping higher doesn't make a you a superhero, you gotta be able to fly or do some extra-ordinary s&!t!

    And as this review points out...doing something extra-ordinary in a s&!tty way doesn't qualify you either!

    Where's the headline? "iPhone 4 pre-sales 10 times the amount of EVO's sold on it's Launch date as Sprints most successful phone of all time."

    ...Strangely absent from Android Central and EVOcentral.
    Last edited by ethic3; 06/17/2010 at 10:42 AM.
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    Since I have both and EVO and a Pre, I can say that most of this review is bunk when compared to my experience. Battery life is not stellar but I do make it through the day with the EVO. I think that reviews like this take the worst case scenario and play off of that.

    Chicago is notorious for signal issues. Too much wind. lol. I would hardly call that indicative of a crappy experience with 4g. Much the same was said about 3g. You need to wait until it is built out before you can make a decision on it.

    As to the 10 dollar fee, Sprint needs to subsidize building 4g, so I can hardly fault them for the fee. Though, I have 4g in my area and my opinion might be a little scewed.

    All in all, I have never understood how belittling something makes you feel better. Seems to me like a schoolyard mentality more suited to 5 year olds than adults.

    If you all remember the crap the Pre got from all sides when it came out, you will remember how silly it got. Honestly, if a phone works for you, then use it. If not, then use something that will suit your needs.

    Pre vs. EVO vs. iPhone vs. Blackberry... whatever. Just use what you like and allow others to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phone Diva View Post
    This guy sounds biased to me though. Wanna bet he loves iPhones?
    You're asking if the guy who wrote and did the MacWorld 2009 keynote is biased?

    The thing I find so funny about this is that if people would read a David Pogue (NYT) or Walt Mossberg (WSJ) Apple review then they'd call them Apple Shills for the amount of Jobs-kissing they give. But some people are so desperate to put down the EVO that they're now accepting a David Pogue review to be "fact".

    "Journalists" like Pogue and Mossberg are exactly why Steve Jobs hates bloggers. Engadget/Gizmodo/BGR/P|C arent going to pull punches when it comes to judging Apple products so Jobs doesn't have the ability to corral them the way he does with his buddies in the major news channels. So despite me being an Apple fan, I dont take anything said by these guys as anything but subliminal ads for Apple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ethic3 View Post
    We're not downgrading the EVO we are adding proper perspective after a bunch of Steve Jobs wannabe, ship jumping, Android terrorists hijacked our site and built it up as the most beautiful, awe inspiring creation since woman!

    Now it is time for everyone to realize that the EVO is just another phone and move on. We can stop wallpapering the forums ....
    LOLOL. I mean, really? The vast majority of people "wallpapering the forums" now are bitter zealots who rejoice in any bad news about the Evo so that "jumpers" or "traitors" to WebOS and Palm can be "punished".

    Kinda like THIS THREAD....

    [/quote]Where's the headline? "iPhone 4 pre-sales 10 times the amount of EVO's sold on it's Launch date as Sprints most successful phone of all time."

    ...Strangely absent from Android Central and EVOcentral.[/QUOTE]

    Such a headline would be completely devoid of perspective, much like your rambling.
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    For every bad review of the EVO you can find a gpod review. I can find bad reviews of the PRE and I can find bad reviews of the Iphone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbritt31 View Post
    Sprint's HTC Evo, the First Ever 4G Phone: Meet the New Terrific

    gizmodo says otherwise, even after the hands on impressions.

    point is, there are just as many positive reviews as negatives, for every product ever... amazing find LOL
    Gizmodo has a serious axe to grind with Apple after they tried to extort them for the iPhone 4 prototype.

    Yet, "bloggers" get credibility when they agree with you? (Earlier in this forum, they were all dismissed)
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