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    Is anyone familiar with any rugged Palm OS Handhelds? We're launching a software product that needs to exist on a rugged handheld. The vendor would like us to migrate to WinCE simply because there are a lot of rugged WinCE devices out there. Before we do that, we'd like to consider the options out there for rugged Palm devices and a search on Google has only turned up one by Symbian...there has to be more options (I'm hoping! )
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    The Armor by Otter product comes to mind. Works with many current model PDAs.
    Actually, you may want to check out VC's own Extreme Cases Section.
    Last edited by flips13; 05/24/2002 at 12:28 PM.
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    By definition, there is no such thing as a 'rugged' handheld, however, some can be protected better than others.

    The most rugged would be from Symbol Technology (http://www.symbol.com/products/mobil...m.html#spt1500). These are designed for use in warehouses, etc., and to take abuse. However, these are not widely-available in stores, and sell mainly mass-quantity direct to businesses.

    A m1xx series are pretty good since they use a plastic touch-screen, which would not break as easily like glass ones.

    Visor owners can get a case called the Active Armor (www.activearmor.com) to provide complete protection.

    The Armor-by-Otter case provides great protection to different models of handhelds, and have recieved great reviews for their ruggedness (examples include being thrown down stairs, stepped on, etc...)
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    Thanks for the info. To clarify, we're looking for a rugged handheld...not a case. The device itself needs to be classified as 'rugged'. This will be used for agriculture.

    The problem with the cases is that the handheld will be connected to another device, so most of the case are ruled out because of that.

    We'd rather not go with a Rugged WinCE device, but there are a few more to choose from on that platform. I was hoping for a few more choices on the Palm OS side, though the more I look at the Symbols, the more it looks like they may be a suitable solution.
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    The Symbols definitely seem to be the top dog (if not the only dog) in the ruggedized Palm arena. I've seen them used with several industrialized applications.
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    Not Palm OS, but I find my Psion Revo(+) to be really rugged due to the clamshell design..
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    The Symbol is the leader, but there are other options as well.

    At a recent small computer trade show, one vendor displayed a Symbol, but also said they could get other devices- I do nto recall the names.

    Also, an issue of some 'pen computing' magazine about 6 months back ran a special on ruggedized devices.

    On the other hand, these devices are big and expensive- almost the antithesis of a true Palm device! :-)
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    I completely agree that 'ruggedized' computer of any sort are a silly thing. For the price of a ruggedizes Palm, you can get a box full of regular ones.

    That said, we're playing to a market with pre-conceived buying notions. The competition is using Rugged PocketPCs and that's what we're up against, so we need to at least offer an option with the rugged Palm OS devices.

    So...it sound like there *may* be other options than the Symbols...I guess I'll have to do some more digging!
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    Originally posted by homer
    I completely agree that 'ruggedized' computer of any sort are a silly thing. For the price of a ruggedizes Palm, you can get a box full of regular ones. [...]
    Not sure of your market, but I certainly don't consider them silly in the proper context. Sure, you might be able to buy a box full of regular ones in some cases, but you might also go through two boxes full of regular ones under certain conditions where one ruggedized one would have held up fine.
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    Whatever you get, make sure you can back it up away from the computer (or it defeats the purpose!)

    Visors have the Backup Modules
    Palms have an expansion card or backup module (for older palms)
    PPC's have expansion cards

    etc...
    Blue Visor Deluxe ~ Clie T615 ~ Zire 71 ~ Treo 650 ~ Palm Centro
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    I just checked my Pen Computing 2002 Buyers Guide...only Symbol is listed as having a Palm OS based Rugged PDA. Tons of Rugged PocketPC's but only Symbol had a Palm based one.
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    Dorelse:

    Thanks for the info. That, in all likelihood will be the deciding factor for us to abandon the Palm platform, which we hate to do, but we have to listen to the market...and they want options for ruggedized handhelds.

    Toby: FYI, the environment will be in the fields. It's an agriculture related product. Normally, we simply encourage a good case, but as the handheld will have to be connected to an external device, we can't rely on the case being completely sealed or completely surrounding the device.
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    You might want to contact some case manufacturers direct. As long as you are willing to buy more than one, they should be willing to work with you to work out a perfect case for your clients
    Blue Visor Deluxe ~ Clie T615 ~ Zire 71 ~ Treo 650 ~ Palm Centro

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