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    So you think webKit is the mother of all browsers. But it's not a good mobile browser. It kills your battery and pages take forever to load and it's unresponsive when loading them. With Opera Mini, even feature phones today have a better browser than Android, iPhone and the Pre.

    First hands-on impressions of Opera Mini on the iPhone are in:

    Opera Mini for iPhone is Fast Like a Rocket | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

    Opera Mini for iPhone is Fast Like a Rocket
    By Charlie Sorrel February 15, 2010 | 11:40 am | Categories: Phones
    Barcelona — Today I tried out Opera Mini running on the iPhone, and it kicks Safari’s ****. The folks at Opera have a native version of their browser running on the iPhone, and while there are limits due to the way it is built, for sheer speed of browsing, it has Safari beat.

    Opera Mini has not yet been submitted to Apple for approval: The demo I saw was of a very mature but unfinished version. But when it does get sent to Apple’s crack team of picky, fickle reviewers, it should, technically at least, pass. The reason that browsers other than those based on Webkit (Safari) aren’t allowed on the iPhone is that Apple bans the running of interpretive code. This means Java, or Flash, or any other runtime is out.

    Opera Mini gets around this by doing all the rendering on the server - Opera’s servers actually run web browsers - and sending what are essentially pictures to the phone. These “pictures” look and act like regular web pages, only they are 90% smaller. That’s a big deal if you’re using a phone in a country with expensive bandwidth (Russia is a big market for Opera Mini).

    IPhone users will be more interested in the cost reductions for roaming data use, and in speed. We loaded up the NYT front page in both browsers (Opera’s Phillip Grønvold is pretty good at hitting both “go” buttons at once) and we were up and browsing five or six pages deep with Opera before Safari had even finished the front page. Better, Opera is responsive to zooming and scrolling as soon as the text is up on screen. IPhone users know that this isn’t the case for Mobile Safari.

    Another speed-up comes from caching. Not caching pages, but keeping the markup file (like we said, they’re not really just pictures) from each page, ready to re-display. This gives instant back-and-forward navigation.

    There are some quirks. In order to keep things consistent across platforms (Opera Mini is available for almost any modern phone), some iPhone UI conventions are ignored. Copy and paste gets its own custom widgets, although it still talks to the built-in clipboard. In this way it is a little like, say, Photoshop, which has almost identical versions on Windows and OS X, even if the OS X version annoys many Mac users with its UI.

    If Opera makes it through the Apple approval process, I’ll be grabbing it right away. The speed makes it perfect the kind of fast reading you do on a phone. And it has one feature that will surely make Apple warm to it: because it doesn’t support video of any kind, Opera Mini won’t display Flash.
    Palm Vx > Treo 650 > Centro > G1 > Pre > BlackBerry 9700
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    Opera Mobile is excellent, but I take no issue with WebOS's webkit browser - it's the best I've ever used to date on a mobile device. Battery life doesn't really concern me as I have multiple batteries and kind of expect quick battery drain regardless of what apps I'm running.

    (Okay, fine, the iPhone 3GS is slightly faster). There, I said it
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    ^^Blasphemy...even if you are correct.

    Given the default app setting ability now found in webOS I have high hopes that we will have browser choices in the future. Palm doesn't really have any reason/self interest to keep this area locked down like MS and Apple does.

    Opera would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SqyArc View Post
    Opera Mobile is excellent, but I take no issue with WebOS's webkit browser - it's the best I've ever used to date on a mobile device. Battery life doesn't really concern me as I have multiple batteries and kind of expect quick battery drain regardless of what apps I'm running.

    (Okay, fine, the iPhone 3GS is slightly faster). There, I said it
    I'm talking about Opera Mini, not Opera Mobile. Opera Mini uses a proxy to do the processing for it. I can load pages on Opera Mini at a fraction of the time it would take on the Pre webKit. Aside from being much faster due to downloading much less data, battery is conserved.

    What's interesting though is that today you can use Opera Mini on a feature phone, and arguably have a better browsing experience than on the Pre!
    Palm Vx > Treo 650 > Centro > G1 > Pre > BlackBerry 9700
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    Quote Originally Posted by sivan View Post
    I'm talking about Opera Mini, not Opera Mobile. Opera Mini uses a proxy to do the processing for it. I can load pages on Opera Mini at a fraction of the time it would take on the Pre webKit. Aside from being much faster due to downloading much less data, battery is conserved.

    What's interesting though is that today you can use Opera Mini on a feature phone, and arguably have a better browsing experience than on the Pre!
    Ah, yeah I did mean to type Opera Mini - I used to use it on my BlackBerry Bold. I agree it's lightening quick. I'm sure we'll see it on WebOS before long. Fingers crossed!
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    What's funny is all the columnists and iPhone users arguing against having Opera Mini available to them.

    The Engadget editor noted it was 5 times faster than Safari, and yet couldn't help insinuating that Opera is somehow trying to hurt Apple by releasing this product.
    Palm Vx > Treo 650 > Centro > G1 > Pre > BlackBerry 9700
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    I had it on my Treo 650 and Centro. It's a great web browser, but I only ever compared it to Palm's old web browser (which was garbage). I have not tried opera mini side-by-side with a webkit browser, through.

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