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  1.    #1  
    NR70 experience is not bad so far. I'm writing this at work so don't expect it to be perfect. *looks over shoulder*

    Cool Factor is way up on this baby. Its just snazzy, sleek and feels good in your hand. The Magnesium case looks great and matches my Ti PowerBook perfectly.

    Battery life seems good. A definate improvement over my T-615. Time will tell though.

    The speed boost helps alot. Makes OS 4 seem more modern if you ask me. (I'm sure PPC users get a kick out of that) Gmovie plays soooooo much better now. I have yet to test TealMovie. I'm hoping for a hi-res player soon *crosses fingers*

    The Jog wheel feels just as good as the T-615 wheel.

    The Audio playback is good. Playing Mp3 during a screen show is just cool. You can even tap the screen and controls pop up allowing you to advace to next song, or adjust volume, then you close that window and it continues the show. The playback through headphones is on par with the 710/760. A bonus feature is that there are additional skinz for the AudioPlayer if you like to change its appearence.

    The 320x480 Display is another plus of a NR70 is the improved color. The photos are so sharp and now the color is wicked. This has the best color fidelity of all Clie to date. Don't believe me? Well run McColors on you Clie and hold it next to a NR70 running the same McColors as well and it'll be very noticable. Truer reds, aw heck truer everything.

    Form factor is great. The trade off isn't that bad transitioning from a T-615. I cant see PDAs getting to much thinner or they would break easily. But with the screen flipped over, I can easily envision a T-615 with a virtual graffti area that would sell like Hotcakes!!!

    The keyboard is sweet as well. It has a nice crisp feel to it.

    Ok now the Bad. . .

    Why can't Sony keep a good thing going with the Back buttons. The N710c/760 and the S300 probably had the best "Back" buttons. But I must confess that the NR70 "back" button is the worst of the pack. Entirely too small and too flush to the unit. If Sony wants to push the Jog wheel methodology, you gotta have just as effective Back Button.

    Applications included was sad. Only Photostand takes advantage of the extra screen space. Now if only Sony had modified DateBook and the other standard Palm apps to take advantage of the extra real estate.

    Also they need to give you an option on the bottom row under Virtual graffiti area. Users should have a choice of the Clock thats there already or virtual buttons to the 4 core apps (DateBook, Address, To Do, Memo)as well. That way when you have the dispay fliped over the keyboard, you can switch very quickly to the mainstay applications.

    They Keyboard seems to have ben made for small fingers. Fat fingers may have a hard time using it.

    Still, I am impressed with the device overall. It definatley rocks but its not a must upgrade. Play with it and see I always say. (The PDA I mean)
    Last edited by mikedemo; 05/01/2002 at 03:44 PM.
    -Mikedemo
    It's all about how you spend the money.
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    I stopped by CompUSA on the way home to check the NR-70 out, and I was also very impressed. The screen is great, and the virtual graffiti area is nice - even without apps to take advantage of it, it's cool to actually see your penstrokes as you write.

    The keyboard was also surprisingly useable - not as nice as a BlackBerry keyboard, but nicer than the Snap-N-Type I purchased for my Prism.

    And the form factor is very impressive - I was surprised at how small it is. Not that it's small in absolute terms - it's relatively long - but it's not much bigger than a Jornada. When you consider the keyboard, that's impressive.
  3. #3  
    I just checked out the showcase on http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/clie/nr70_index.shtml
    and I must say it looks sweet, very sweet indeed....

    Too bad it is not for sale down under (repeating theme )
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  4.    #4  
    Originally posted by VTL
    I stopped by CompUSA on the way home to check the NR-70 out, and I was also very impressed. The screen is great, and the virtual graffiti area is nice - even without apps to take advantage of it, it's cool to actually see your penstrokes as you write . . .
    Yeah seeing the pen stroke is another big plus!!! Helps ensure you stroke your characters correctly. I love the way it even indicates the beginning of your stroke.

    The device also browses images on the memory stick much faster. They improved PictureGear where it draws a draft version of image for browsing and a few seconds later it sharpens the draft. The lower res drafts helps me find images a lot faster.

    Another neat thing is the screen is firm like a V or M5 series. I guess Sony took complaints about the spongey feel to heart. This is the best Clie yet not taking away from the others. The NR70 is not perfect, but again Sony keeps adding on top of its devices in a sensable fashion. Two days and still loving the unit.
    -Mikedemo
    It's all about how you spend the money.
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    Looks like it's time to change your avatar.
    Mike
    I'd rather be upside down in my kayak than rightside up at my desk.
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    MD:

    You have been a CLIE enthusiast for a while, so let me ask you this question. I'm pretty much sold on buying an NR70 (or maybe the NR70V), but I have one small little problem:

    My firm is still in the dark ages - my work desktop has Win 95, so no USB support.

    Seriously, I normally don't mind - it runs all of the apps I need, and it's surprisingly stable. My last firm had upgraded to Win 2000, and the network crashed all the time. I have fewer problems at work even with the old OS, probably because our IT guys are smarter than at my prior shop.

    Anyway, Sony doesn't sell a serial cradle. Can I buy a serial cable for the NR (as I understand it, it has the same connector as the T series), and if so, will it work?
  7.    #7  
    VTL:

    I have traded up from the NR70U to the NR70V (camera is fun.)

    Yes the NR70 series seems to work fine with the T-615 connectors except for the radle in which it fits a little funny. I liken it to the way a VDX fits in a Prism cradle. So your T series serial cable should work fine.

    I have the T-615 travel power and hotsync cable. Works fine with my NR70V. So I won't need to buy a second cradle for the NR70V
    -Mikedemo
    It's all about how you spend the money.
  8. #8  
    Originally posted by mikedemo
    VTL:

    I have traded up from the NR70U to the NR70V (camera is fun.)
    What's the quality of the pics like? like the eyemodule2?

    Can you post some examples?
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  9.    #9  
    Heres a link to a page that has some shots taken with the camera.

    http://clie.idv.tw/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14647


    IMHO, the NR70V camera is definatley better than Eyemodule 1. I don't know if its better than the Eyemodule 2. It can take 88x88, 160x120, and 320x240 resolution photos. I don't know why Sony wouldn't allow 320x480. Photos are come out decent if you have good lighting. The software is easy to use with some good controls. The camera is not a must have. Its a neat to have.

    The thing I really love about this device is the speed. It makes the OS 4 feel like a different OS when dealing with graphics. Hi-res photos pop up fast now.
    -Mikedemo
    It's all about how you spend the money.
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    Hey MikeDemo, congrats on the new CLIE!

    Just wanted to tell you the new Avatar looks sweet.
    In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. JOHN 14:2
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    Thanks for the ongoing reporting, Mikedemo. Definitely a neat machine.

    I'm really not tempted by the NR70 (which surprises the heck out of me), with the T615C I have. Oh, I'm envious of the better color resolution and the speed, believe me; but the other features are just not high on my list. (Also, I think I'd miss the four Major App buttons when you're using it in "folded up" mode -- I use those a lot day-to-day on the T615C).

    But I'm tickled that you're enjoying yours so much! I'll also be interested to hear more analysis on the battery life after a few weeks.

    Congratulations!
    Jeff Meyer

    "And he died like he lived: with his mouth wide open."
  12. #12  
    What are you doing with all the old Palm programs? What games are you playing on it? Will there be a full size keyboard for it? I found the keyboard very challenging to use and I have small hands (6.5 glove size).

    Since I'm getting a 615 for my Dad, how bad is the battery life? I have no problems with my 760.

    Again thanks for the update!
  13. #13  
    Originally posted by pel in chicago
    What are you doing with all the old Palm programs? What games are you playing on it? Will there be a full size keyboard for it? I found the keyboard very challenging to use and I have small hands (6.5 glove size).

    Since I'm getting a 615 for my Dad, how bad is the battery life? I have no problems with my 760.

    Again thanks for the update!
    I am guessing that mikedemo is still using his old applications. The NR70 uses PalmOS4.1, which is the same version as your 760. No devices are currently available running PalmOS5. As for the Keyboard, I am sure someone will come out with a Keyboard for the T-Series handhelds and those should fit the NR70. Hopefully, ThinkOutside will develop the Stowaway to be compatible.

    The battery life on the T615 has reportedly been poor, but I have no first hand experience with it. One thing for sure, it will not be nearly as good as your 760.
    In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. JOHN 14:2
  14.    #14  
    Originally posted by GSR13


    I am guessing that mikedemo is still using his old applications. The NR70 uses PalmOS4.1, which is the same version as your 760.

    Ditto



    The battery life on the T615 has reportedly been poor, but I have no first hand experience with it. One thing for sure, it will not be nearly as good as your 760.

    The battery life of a T-615 is not stellar for heavy use. But for the average user (strictly PIM usage) its quite good.

    PS

    I took my previous device (T-615) on a business trip and didn't recharge it for that week. I used as a PIM since I couldn't update my avantgo and the device didn't even get as low as 55%.
    -Mikedemo
    It's all about how you spend the money.
  15. #15  
    I was tempted to upgrade and now am more so knowing I can use my old software. Visor Central - GSR13 and mikedemo - thanks so much for the info. Someone has misinformed me that the NR70 would be OS5. Dad is still getting the 615.
  16. #16  
    I'm really conflicted. Do I upgrade now, or do I wait until the fall and see what shakes out with OS5?

    My concern is that developers might not re-do their apps to take advantage of the NR70's extra real estate - gorgeous though it is - with OS5's new (and as I understand it, different) screen APIs right around the corner.
  17. #17  
    Thanks for the informative review. Curious, is it possible to run both Visor Prism and the Sony through the same desktop software. I want to upload my existing apps and data to the Clie when it arrives (hopefully this week!) Thanks for reply.
  18. #18  
    Originally posted by VTL
    I'm really conflicted. Do I upgrade now, or do I wait until the fall and see what shakes out with OS5?

    My concern is that developers might not re-do their apps to take advantage of the NR70's extra real estate - gorgeous though it is - with OS5's new (and as I understand it, different) screen APIs right around the corner.
    My vote is to wait. I also want to upgrade to somethig cooler but with OS 5 and Strongarm being so close it is dumb to upgrade now. I also agree that developers will not put effort into the NR70 because of how close OS 5 is.
  19. #19  
    Originally posted by recordond
    I also agree that developers will not put effort into the NR70 because of how close OS 5 is.
    That would be my opinion as well; but a surprising number of the biggies (Iambic, and Blue Nomad (rumored)) apparently are.

    I don't know if this is because no other new hardware features are coming out that they can get their apps to support. I figure most developers are working on OS5 in the background, but until an OS5 PDA comes out... where does your income come from?
    Jeff Meyer

    "And he died like he lived: with his mouth wide open."

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