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  1. #581  
    Still deciding between my Pre and my Hero.

    Hero Keyboard Tips:


    It has taken a week, but I really really like the virtual keyboard on the Hero now. HTC has added a lot of extra functionality to it. Tips...

    1. Run the calibration utility. This makes a HUGE difference in accuracy and livability.
    2. Set your portrait keyboard for the compact QWERTY keyboard. This allows one-handed keyboarding with good accuracy.
    3. When you need the full QWERTY keyboard, rotate to landscape. I love being able to use two different keyboard layouts whenever I want.
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    ...gave up and switched to iPhone4 7/15/10
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    I think you are the first!
    From those mythical lands beyond the great USA...

    It is a convergence device not mankind's disc/filmography.
  3. #583  
    Quote Originally Posted by eazyslim123 View Post
    Well, mikah912 I am pretty sure you're a recent Hero customer and I hope I did not offend you. But I never said the Pre was "so great out of the box", I said it was easy and simple to use the way all phones should be. And given that the Pre has been out 5 months they won't have the refinements and apps a developer like Android (REL.Late 2008, Big Company-GOOGLE!vs small Palm) might have.

    This has sparked a greater need for desktop apps, patches and homebrews, something which Palm has blessed until they are able to provide this themselves.

    Give them a couple more months and I am sure you will come back to your beloved Pre! (Especially since Adobe Flash is on its way!)
    No offense buddy. Really. I haven't "switched teams". I have no team, in fact. Hero is a better device FOR ME for now.

    But your previous made it seem like Android is Windows Mobile 2.0 (just absurd on its face. I could outline 20 differences off the top of my head.), while WebOS is easy-to-use and not in need of modification or skinning or customization.

    If that were the least bit true, then why is adding themes, icons, more launcher pages, and an active "agenda" or "homescreen" card the most popular customizations out there for Pre right now? Answer: It's not true. WebOS is so bare bones and feature poor that people are skinning it just as much as one would Windows Mobile.

    The difference with Android is that it was built to be customizable from the ground up. Manufacturers and carriers could add whatever they wanted or change the interface altogether. Users could add whatever widgets they like too. WebOS has no such support, and Palm has most features incomplete and turned off by default. The OS isn't even really finished yet.

    But yeah...I'd love to come back to WebOS...when it's truly complete. I'll never come back to the Pre. Might be the worst piece of smartphone hardware I ever had.
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    #584  
    Quote Originally Posted by osubrad04 View Post
    It was like $480... However I'm selling my Pre, 2 spare batteries, car charger, touchstone, and 2 extra wall chargers on ebay.... so I feel like I should be able to make a decent return on those. The Hero is an amazing phone... let me know if you have any questions!
    Assuming you sell all of the above you still probably have to shell out aprx $150-200.

    I ran into the same dilemma, but I was unwilling to pay the extra amount for a phone (hero) that will more than likely be surpassed via webos updates in the next few months.

    I'll hold out for something more "substantial" assuming webos stays the same.

    Good luck!
  5. #585  
    guess you'll be changing your screename to Hero_FTW or Palm_***!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Palm_FTW View Post
    When I recenty visited Sprint for one of my many Pre problems I played with the HTC Hero. Im getting a replacement Pre Monday and I am going to promptly buy the Hero off Ebay and Sell the Pre. Ive had a 3 month run with the Pre and it just isn't doing it for me.
  6. #586  
    Yeah... I have to say that I have been really happy with the Hero. The Hero just seems more substantial & the glass screen hasn't scratched like the Pre's did on day 2. I mean I think the concept of the Pre is great, but the implementation is going to be bad for Palm. The hardware was just crap. I had really hoped they would put out quality units for their return to seriously compete. I just think Palm has dropped the ball... but I guess we'll see how the next 6 months go.

    On a side note, the Sprint rep swapped my Pre out for a refurb so I could have a perfect condition phone.
    Last edited by osubrad04; 10/18/2009 at 03:56 PM.
  7. #587  
    The battery life on the Hero lasts about .5+ day longer than the Pre with everything on the Hero & most shut off on Pre.
  8. #588  
    its illogical to wswitch to an android phone nlw when eclair is coming out...the first phone with it will be the droid from motorola on verizon...which looks awesome by the way...I'll wait for this this system to come out for sprint...wish we were getting the droid...
  9. #589  
    Quote Originally Posted by jateelover View Post
    its illogical to wswitch to an android phone nlw when eclair is coming out...the first phone with it will be the droid from motorola on verizon...which looks awesome by the way...I'll wait for this this system to come out for sprint...wish we were getting the droid...
    All android devices are upgrade-able to the new releases.
  10. #590  
    Quote Originally Posted by kbritt31 View Post
    it seems like we all want the hero for apps but when people actually get the hero, they are unimpressed
    You're not reading enough threads around here. There are lots of Pre owners who have tried out the Hero and have been impressed. Count me in the very impressed camp. The Hero is an outstanding phone. I'm getting closer and closer to putting the Pre up on eBay every day.
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    ...gave up and switched to iPhone4 7/15/10
  11. #591  
    Quote Originally Posted by dallashigh View Post
    Two things keeping me away from Android:

    1) So far, all the Android phones available in the US are made by HTC. Yuck!
    2) Google sent out a cease-and-desist letter to a ROM chef because he *gasp* included apps in the ROM that already came on the damn phone!

    HTC sucks and Google is greedy. Goodbye, Android!
    1. I don't have any first hand experience with any HTC phone prior to the Hero, but I can assure you that the Hero is very solid. The build quality is excellent, maybe just a notch below the iPhone. It's far and away superior to the Pre.

    2. Cyanogen has explained the situation. There are certain Google apps that are part of the "Google Experience" branding that phone makers pay Google for. Custom ROMs can be created that include these apps, which could be damaging to Google's business model with Android. Google was being pro-active before things got out of hand with other developers. If you think this is merely "greed", I (gently) suggest that you take some coursework in business and marketing.
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    Palm Pilot > Palm V > Tungsten T > Trēo 650 > Centro > Prē > Prē F102

    ...gave up and switched to iPhone4 7/15/10
  12. #592  
    Quote Originally Posted by osubrad04 View Post
    All android devices are upgrade-able to the new releases.
    So far. There were rumors a little while back that 2.0 will need a larger ROM or something of the sort.
  13. #593  
    Quote Originally Posted by shotyme View Post
    Hero use widgets and shortcuts to customize the "homescreens" of the phone. You can place a calendar in one screen, then a twitter widget in the next. Up to seven pages. Another thing is the scenes. You can have a scene for work in which you seven homepages will be customize for that environment. Then another scene for social, which may be different than work scene.

    Pre uses cards. You can pick and choose which cards you one up. At any moment, you can change your cards. You can always go to card view and see everything you have running. It is customizable as well.
    I'd also point out that the HTC scenes on the Hero are both persistent and able to be saved. You can set up your essential apps in cards on the Pre and swipe between them to approximate the same experience in SenseUI. But you can't save that arrangement of cards and re-load it later. Reboot the Pre, and webOS presents you with a clean slate when it finally starts back up several minutes later. This sounds like a small feature, but for me this is a huge advantage in efficiency and speed of use for the Hero over the Pre.
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    Palm Pilot > Palm V > Tungsten T > Trēo 650 > Centro > Prē > Prē F102

    ...gave up and switched to iPhone4 7/15/10
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    [QUOTE=ratchetjaw;1983741]I have noticed alot of times it doesnt give the High quality option. Is it based on signal reception?[/QUOTE

    as long as you are in a wifi area it defaults to high quality, but if not then it defaults to low.
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    #595  
    Quote Originally Posted by doublebullout View Post
    You're not reading enough threads around here. There are lots of Pre owners who have tried out the Hero and have been impressed. Count me in the very impressed camp. The Hero is an outstanding phone. I'm getting closer and closer to putting the Pre up on eBay every day.
    Exactly. Im so glad I jumped to the Hero. I dont have to come here waiting to download software that enables me basic functions. A guy at work offered me $150 for my Pre because it has a scratch on the screen(doesnt affect functionality) and I said sure, get your money out. Then I told him he'd have to come here and download some programs every once in awhile to keep things the way they are now(SMS forwarding, etc...). Suddenly he wasnt interested anymore I said its not hard to do. He said I want a phone that works from the get go, not one I have to screw with. Somehow, I can understand that.
  16. #596  
    I went to the sprint store and played with on.....whooo....I love the hero...but I love my pre more....this rep I alked to loved the hero and really almost convenced me...but I overheard another rep talking and they said that another update is coming and this one might have video recording capablilities.....and more...
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    #597  
    With the release of the new HTC HD2 the pre days are numbered. I simply will not wait for palm to get their shyt together.. I understand they are some major issues that take time to fix but cmon..the simplest things need to be addressed right away not these stupied "updates that no one cares abt:

    This is do or die for plam
    1) VIDEO SUPPORT
    2) DECENT SCREEN LOCK TIME
    3) FACEBOOK APP
    4) SOUND CUSTOMIZATION


    I specially enoy the fact that I can look at a "person" on the HTC Sense and see everything I have done with them. Palm Synergy is nice but I think this is more powerful and important to see history.. Palm has a few months to get their act together before the next contract upgrades in a few months.
  18. #598  
    Hero is tempting me. I like its solid design. I dont trust my pre to last. Only thing stoping me is on some youtube vids the web looks slower and camera looks like crap on the hero. The refresh rate looks horrible. I also dont like the idea of stepping down to a slower chip. What if palm actually updates the pre? It has the potential to make the hero look slow.
  19. #599  
    Quote Originally Posted by ultraret View Post

    This is do or die for plam
    1) VIDEO SUPPORT
    2) DECENT SCREEN LOCK TIME
    3) FACEBOOK APP
    4) SOUND CUSTOMIZATION

    I dont see a problem with screen lock time??? And i see no need for a facebook app since the facebook mobile site does everything now. The sound and video def though.
  20. #600  
    I upgraded my G1 to 1.6 (Doughnut) this weekend. I noticed that universal search is pretty much fully available.

    By opening the keyboard and starting to type it will search for contacts, apps, bookmarks, and lastly Google. It's a little different, in that when I looked up a contact it showed as the first item but it did not expand to let me select a contact number or address, because it was also showing Google results underneath. I had to select the contact to access their details and from their initiate the call. The Pre's implementation is more intelligent about it but it's probably a matter of opinion. It won't search email (available separately in the email app, and searches against the server. No calendar search at all)

    Synergy has equivalents in MotoBlur and Sense UI People, and will be a native feature in Android 2.0 (Eclair). Universal search is pretty much done. Card navigation scheme already aped by Sense screens and widgets. The differences now are too subtle for users to understand and appreciate when just playing with the devices.

    Right now Palm is busy launching with new carriers and devices, running an app catalog and a developer program. All of which are steps that de-emphasize the phone in its current state in favor of new customer acquisitions and bringing on developers to fill in while Palm is absent. But as we're seeing, the reasons to choose a Palm device over the alternatives are increasingly intangible and it's not clear what this whirlwind of activity will net for Palm.
    Palm Vx > Treo 650 > Centro > G1 > Pre > BlackBerry 9700

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