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    I keep looking at the Clies and am ready to jump ship. I chose the Visor over Palm because of the lure of other modules. After two years I have two modules, one is the backup and the other is a Soundsgood.

    I can get both with the Clie plus...the 320x320 color screen in a smaller form factor, a metal casing, and OS 4, and a jog dial for $340.

    I hate to say goodbye but the reasons for leaving seem to be compelling. My wife would really like the smaller form factor, so the Prism doesn't work for her and I like the higher pixel screen.

    Anyone else have a Clie and what do you think?
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    Before going to the Clie, check out "Handheld Computing" Issue 4.3, Clie x 3. I didn't think their write-up of the Clie line was the greatest.

    Hope this helps.

    -Z-
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    IF I were/needed to get a new PDA now, I'd probably go with a Clie. For now, my VDX is probably all I need for some time to come.

    When that time does come, who knows, but if things continue the way they are now, I'll probably be looking at a Clie or PocketPC device (IF they continue to improve at their current pace).
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    The Clies are great, with one exception - I hate the hardware buttons. The new slim grayscale device they announced today doesn't seem to improve the situation.
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    Man, I hear you. My main reason for not buying any new modules is that I doubt that my next PDA will be a Visor. I would like a form of removable storage, and the omniremote, but when everyone else is offering high resolutions displays and integrated memory slots for the same price as Handspring's products it is hard to accept spending the money on springboard modules.

    I had great hopes for Handspring, but Sony looks to be turning out to be the company I had hoped Handspring would be. Handspring has just fallen into the same trap that drove me away from Palm, which is that they just keep putting out the same products over and over again with different cases, more memory, and a new marketing campaign.

    It now appears that Handspring is never going to put out a high resolution device, and might be abandoning Springboard themselves, so I don't really see what is to be gained in even considering them when looking at new devices.

    Personally, the Clie is the first PDA I have seen that has a nice enough display to make color worth it, and it would seem that Sony is far more interested in keeping their product fresh than is Handspring.
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    I agree with most of what people are saying about Sony. And I really like the 760c, but I just can't justify buying from a company that doesn't have the forethought to give real Mac support.

    Handspring is always going to have my business, as long as they remain the only PDA manufacturer that gives you Mac software in the box, and "official" Mac support. Not even Palm can say that, after all these years.

    It's high time the rest of the companies on this planet started paying attention to Microsoft alternatives, because there are going to be a lot of users jumping ship from Windows soon. Linux and Mac OSX are starting to look really good to a lot of people.

    Microsoft's dominance has gone on too long. CFOs are starting to realize it. Tech heads are starting to realize it. It's only a matter of time before the average citizens start to realize it.

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    Originally posted by VTL
    The Clies are great, with one exception - I hate the hardware buttons. The new slim grayscale device they announced today doesn't seem to improve the situation.
    Well, the main buttons look better to me than the N7XX/6XX models. The rocker button (scroll up/down), however... what's up with that?

    Must wait and get my hands on it...
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    Originally posted by mrjoec

    If I were in IT right now, I'd be spending a lot of time in the Library, brushing up on my Unix skills.
    Also, it's much more fun. I make a good living writing MFC Windows applications, but when I want to write code that's enjoyable, it's Perl and Python on Unix for me.
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    I just got the Clie 760 and absolutely love it. It has everything in it that I loved about my Prism, and so much more.

    The screen is just great. The hardware buttons do not bother me at all, but then again, I have never really used the buttons all that much. I do find that I am starting to get used to the ScrollWheel and Back Button.

    MemoryStick Slot and MP3 built-in, awesome. I cannot think of one thing I would add that would improve the device.

    OS4.0 with VFS support and VFS aware applications is really great to.

    The only thing I miss about my Prism is the Stowaway, and that is only because I have not bought the Clie Version yet. Once I get it, there is no looking back.

    I say go for it, you will not be disappointed.
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    Originally posted by maddog
    I keep looking at the Clies and am ready to jump ship. I chose the Visor over Palm because of the lure of other modules. After two years I have two modules, one is the backup and the other is a Soundsgood.

    I can get both with the Clie plus...the 320x320 color screen in a smaller form factor, a metal casing, and OS 4, and a jog dial for $340.

    I hate to say goodbye but the reasons for leaving seem to be compelling. My wife would really like the smaller form factor, so the Prism doesn't work for her and I like the higher pixel screen.

    Anyone else have a Clie and what do you think?
    I hate to post this on a Visor board, but being you asked...

    The Clie is simply amazing! Once you've seen and used a Hi Res screen, you won't believe the difference. Not only that, but during the day, in bright sunlight, you can see the screen as easily as at night!

    Jog Wheel, built in Memory Stick support, small form factor... this thing rocks!

    Check out the new t415! Black and white with Hi Res and a thinner form factor then the Edge!

    I had an Edge, switched to the Sony, and (sorry to say, cause I LOVED H.S.) I wouldn't go back.

    The Springboards, while sounding like a good idea, are simply too expensive, and not enough of them are "must haves"...

    Sony already has released photos of a M.S. camera!
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    Good luck to you.

    I'm saying "goodbye" too. Just sold my Visor Plat today and bought a ...

    ... PocketPC (gasp!).

    yeah, i wrote that ...
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    I hear ya! I have a Palm Vx, liked the verstility the Visor offered, even though it was a little flimsy, but didn't buy. I'm going to Sync-Fest to play with all the new toys. I expect that the exhibition will confirm what we both already know...Clie is the way to go!
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    I'll be dumb, what is Sync-Fest?
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    I say..GO FOR IT! The new Sony device has peaked my interest as well, and it's not even color! Most likely I will stay with my 505 for now, but I love the T415 design, and the fact that there is now an MP3 player add-on. Cool stuff.

    Sony is going to become the PalmOS device maker to watch out for. Within 12 months they will surpass Handspring as number two...or maybe even number one. Palm had better watch out.

    James and Marcus had better start thinking about reassessing the focus of this site. Perhaps "PDAcentral" would be more appropriate.
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    Originally posted by namja
    I'm saying "goodbye" too. Just sold my Visor Plat today and bought a ... PocketPC (gasp!).
    You are dead to me!
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    I say Dont do it wait for HS's new color unit. the sony looks so cool **** the are just a fad. i would rather buy a specialized product from a company the specializes in that area (palm, hs) than a company that make tv's, radios, camcorders (sony).
    The clie's do look neato, but i am putting all my faith in HS


    oH yeah namja is not my friend anymore pocket pc, how dare you
    Hey baby before we start do you mind if we use my M505?
    No not for that!!!!!!!!!!
    Use it to reffer to PalmaSutra, silly???????
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    Originally posted by namja
    Good luck to you.

    I'm saying "goodbye" too. Just sold my Visor Plat today and bought a ...

    ... PocketPC (gasp!).
    So you're that type, eh?
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    Originally posted by culo77
    ... the sony looks so cool **** the are just a fad.
    WTF?!! Sony's PDA's are just a fad? I think you underestimate Sony as a product maker and a brand name. Who do you think has more brand name awareness in the mind of consumers..Sony or Handspring? Hint: it aint Handspring.

    i would rather buy a specialized product from a company the specializes in that area (palm, hs) than a company that make tv's, radios, camcorders (sony).
    Sony is a consumer electronics giant that can leverage a wide array of digital devices that integrate well together. The Clie is yet another addition to that digital lifestlye. Palm is a one trick pony. And the fact that HS and Palm make only one device (a PDA) doesn't seem to be helping them much. Sony's devices outclass both companies products is design and functionality.
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    Originally posted by culo77
    I say Dont do it wait for HS's new color unit. the sony looks so cool **** the are just a fad. i would rather buy a specialized product from a company the specializes in that area (palm, hs) than a company that make tv's, radios, camcorders (sony).
    The clie's do look neato, but i am putting all my faith in HS
    Well, up until Sony started coming out with these kick-*** Clies and everyone began incorporating memory/expansion slots, I didn't have to put faith in Handspring, because nothing compared with my 16 bit color Prism with Springboard slot.

    A lot of people (myself included) put all their faith in Commodore when it was pretty clear the company was being mismanaged into the ground regardless of the fact that they had a great product (No marketing to speak of for the Amiga, and private jets for the executives). A lot of those people got stuck with a whole lot of hardware and software that was no longer supported when Commodore finally bit the big one.

    I do hope Handspring comes out with something that can compete with Sony's hi-res, MP3-capable, slim(mer - not too slim for an integrated Springboard slot), color Clies... Handspring was first to market with the expansion slot concept, and they've done well by me as a customer in the 1 3/4 years since I've owned their products.

    As for Sony's PDAs being 'just a fad', I don't think so. Like foo fighter said, it's seems like Sony has decided to buy Handspring's place in the PalmOS PDA market, and make even further inroads on Palm's marketshare. They have the capital to make it happen. Handspring just doesn't have the resources, and they can't afford to come out with another product that doesn't meet sales expectations like the Edge.

    That's not to say that they aren't capable of coming up with great products (Like the Treo)... but they're in a precarious position. The Neo and Pro were necessary to update the aging Visor/Visor Deluxe product line, but in terms of the screen resolutions we're seeing from Handera and Sony they were already obsolete when they came out. Handspring is stuck; it's dangerous for them to put all their eggs in one basket on another project like the Edge, but if they resort to just playing catchup now, they'll always be behind.

    I'm glad I couldn't afford a new PDA even if I wanted one right now I do want to see what Handspring comes out with next, although it seems more and more likely that next year by this time I'll have a Clie/Stowaway combo for my general PDA needs and a Treo for my wireless communications.
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    Both "usonian2000" & "foo fighter" Are total right. sony does have the resource and the CAPITAL to make mistakes to create the ultimate PDA.

    I am just trying to back my investment by slandering any other company that tries to out-do HS.

    the Clie's are looking more and more kick-azz every day. And they are going to come out with great expansions with thier memorystick slot. And i Think in th next two years If the palm OS doesnt start again with the WOW FACTOR the, dare i say it?, pocket pc's will take the market.

    AS for me i will stand by my EDGE untill the end and stand and stand while its dead. well what i am saying is while owning the color treo 270g i will still stand by my edge!!!!
    Hey baby before we start do you mind if we use my M505?
    No not for that!!!!!!!!!!
    Use it to reffer to PalmaSutra, silly???????
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