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  1. #61  
    Originally posted by bradhaak
    I know a guy that wears a cel phone, a Prism, a pager, and a little wallet with a couple of SpringBoards on his belt.

    We call him Batman.
    He carries all his SBs with him??
    "Quick Robin, to the Yug..er Bat-Mobile!!"
    Last edited by slotmachine; 08/14/2001 at 09:17 PM.
    That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you.
  2. #62  
    A few thoughts came to mind while looking at those nice pics of the m125 at pdageek.com....

    The Enterprise PDA does not have much in common with the consumer PDA. The enterprise pda can be loaded down with PC cards and other stuff, because you punch in at work, pick up your big ol' PPC, and huff away for 8-12 hrs. At the end of the day, you throw off the chains of the cubicle, the dirty coffee mug, and the big ol' PPC and start living for YOU, instead of the "enterprise". People don't care that the whole PPC effect is inconvenient and cumbersome. Heck why should the big ol' PPC be any different than any other aspect of their job?

    Outside of work we want simple. We want light. We want breezy. We want easy. We want a Consumer PDA. We want the (forgive me) Zen of Palm OS.

    It takes a lot of resources to maintain a diverse product line from the Enterprise Brick all the way down to the consumer wafer. Question is, do Palm and Handspring have that kind of bank? Or does it take a Godzilla like Sony to straddle the spectrum?
    That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you.
  3.    #63  
    Originally posted by slotmachine
    Yep. Not only is it practical, but the gadget freak in me admires the technical feat of packing those features into that tiny chassis.
    No kidding. It's amazing that such a small device can sport a color display and not suffer from all the disadvantages that usually go with it. The M505 is a beauty to behold, it's almost like a piece of jewelery. It breaks my heart whenever I see people trying to compare it to an iPaq. So what if it doesn't play digital audio or video! It was intended to be a balanced mix of design, simplicity, and fuction. Appreciate it for what it is, not what you want it to be.

    I thought of the term "functional transparency" back in 98 when I first purchased a Palm Pilot Pro. Wish I had trademarked it.
    So your the guy!

    The best quote I have ever read regarding my experience of moving from Palm to PPC and then back again is from David MacNeill at Pen Computing Magazine:

    "It's so much easier to walk away from a device you barely know than from one whose face you've grown accustomed to....If you start operating your machine without having to look at it, you've got a relationship on your hands, not a casual fling. You'd better think twice about listing your partner on ebay."

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Man that is just too f*****g funny!! A TV repairman, or maybe plumber. Maybe PPC really stands for Plumber's Pelvis Crack....
    LOL! Now whenever I look at a plumber's ***, I'll think of an iPaq...or should I say, iCrack!.
    Last edited by foo fighter; 08/14/2001 at 09:57 PM.
  4.    #64  
    Originally posted by slotmachine
    ...We want breezy. We want easy...
    Reminds me of the commercial for womens cosmetics..Easy..breezy..beautiful..covergirl.

    Great post! Well put.
    Last edited by foo fighter; 08/14/2001 at 10:21 PM.
  5. #65  
    Originally posted by slotmachine
    Can I get the zip code where you're finding chics that dig PDAs? And a the # for a local realtor?
    Hehe, I live in Los Angeles, 91006 baby, haha, guess you're not getting any action??? just kidding...I dunno, the girls here just seem to like guys with "cool, new stuff" cell phones, PDAs, techie toys, etc. cept I always have the best stuff, so I get the most girls...

    Originally posted by slotmachine
    There you go. Bells. Whistles. Briefcase.
    So true, my friend used the PDA functions, date book, phone book, etc, for about a week, then he got sicked and tired of how long it took him to enter such simple functions. All he uses it for is to play some MP3s and games. He carries it in his backpack, I only see it when he's bored, no use of it for productivity. haha. I always tell him how good my palm is and useful, he doesn't want to budge. Guess it's up to him, features or function. He chooses features.

    Originally posted by slotmachine
    No kidding. It's amazing that such a small device can sport a color display and not suffer from all the disadvantages that usually go with it. The M505 is a beauty to behold, it's almost like a piece of jewelery. It breaks my heart whenever I see people trying to compare it to an iPaq. So what if it doesn't play digital audio or video! It was intended to be a balanced mix of design, simplicity, and fuction. Appreciate it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
    No kidding, that's what I always tell my friend with the PPC. He can use his to play MP3s and watch video when he's bored. I can entertain myself when I'm bored, AND I can use it to track my schedule, contacts, track homework, take notes. Things he CAN'T do, hehehe, hahaha! When I tell him that, he says, "well, mine cost more, so I think it's better." The Palm can do both, it's all about what your definition of "entertainment is. It can be just simple games that kill time, or MP3s, videos, multimedia. Both achieve the same ends. One is just not as cool as the other. hehe, funny...The iPAQ is not a palm, it's a "pocket pc" that doesn't fit in your pocket. Its for guys with briefcases, and huge laptop cases, not for the consumer wearing normal size pants. Pocket PC will never be as good as Palm is and can be. Lets hope Palm, Handspring, and Sony get with it, and start innovating for the future. I have faith in them.
    nelson.hsieh
    good artists copy, great artists steal. . .
  6. #66  
    Originally posted by foo fighter
    No kidding. It's amazing that such a small device can sport a color display and not suffer from all the disadvantages that usually go with it. The M505 is a beauty to behold, it's almost like a piece of jewelery. It breaks my heart whenever I see people trying to compare it to an iPaq. So what if it doesn't play digital audio or video! It was intended to be a balanced mix of design, simplicity, and fuction. Appreciate it for what it is, not what you want it to be.
    Just wanted to foo-man correct credit for the above quote.
    --------------------------
    AzNCoMpUtAnErD,

    I only see it when he's bored, no use of it for productivity. haha. I always tell him how good my palm is and useful, he doesn't want to budge. Guess it's up to him, features or function. He chooses features.
    Your friend is suffering from a case of terminal gold-plating! He's not a true believer, he just wants the shiniest brass knob.
    ..He can use his to play MP3s and watch video when he's bored...
    Don't forget you can run video clips to depending on your confuguration.
    That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you.
  7. #67  
    Originally posted by foo fighter
    [B]Reminds me of the commercial for womens cosmetics..Easy..breezy..beautiful..covergirl.
    LOL!! I guess I'm subconciously wishing for the Halle Berry edition 505!
    Great post! Well put.
    [elvis]Uh thank yuh vereh much![/elvis]
    That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you.
  8. #68  
    Originally posted by slotmachine
    Your friend is suffering from a case of terminal gold-plating! He's not a true believer, he just wants the shiniest brass knob.
    You got that right! He's considering the new Sony Clie though....haha....if the iPAQ can't satisfy him, when school starts...I might be taking his crowds away with it...hehe...

    Don't forget you can run video clips to depending on your confuguration.
    True...but playback isn't that great on the clie, and anyways, I don't really like watching videos/clips on a 3" x 3" screen. Pictures are great, but video is pushing it.

    We'll see if Pocket PC 4.0 (Merlin) is worth a scare, and if PalmOS 5.0 does the vice versa. Just sit tight and hang onto the Palm wagon!
    nelson.hsieh
    good artists copy, great artists steal. . .
  9. #69  
    Originally posted by AzNCoMpUtAnErD
    We'll see if Pocket PC 4.0 (Merlin) is worth a scare, and if PalmOS 5.0 does the vice versa. Just sit tight and hang onto the Palm wagon!
    I just hope it doesn't catch a flat 'cause I've used all my spare tires on my Palm wagon

    -Whats scaring me is the fact that we palm users are still at a mhz rating lower the the speed limit on a state highway.-
    -Mikedemo
    It's all about how you spend the money.
  10. #70  
    Originally posted by mikedemo
    I just hope it doesn't catch a flat 'cause I've used all my spare tires on my Palm wagon

    -Whats scaring me is the fact that we palm users are still at a mhz rating lower the the speed limit on a state highway.-
    Well, I just added a new set of tires, hehe, they'll be driving me for a while! Mainly because I can't afford new ones for a while...hehe

    Yah, I knoe, we can drive 33 MPH, while PPC users can drive 206 MPH, and we can still catch up to them! Amazing ain't it??? We should be getting some 66 MPH and faster vehicles soon though! Hang on!
    nelson.hsieh
    good artists copy, great artists steal. . .
  11. #71  
    Looking at this from the other end of the telescope, having a more fragmented market in the PowerPC vs Palm OS area is an issue for PDA application developers.

    In the past, you could write one application for the Palm OS, and get most of the PDA market in one fell swoop. However, that may no longer be true if the information about growth in the PocketPC market is true.

    BTW, I can understand one reason why the PocketPC is taking off in Europe. More complex user interfaces seem to be popular with consumer electronics made there. Stereo equipment and instrumentation come to mind immediately (particularly Philips).

    Simpler, sleeker industrial design with fewer controls don't seem to be as popular. (At least with the people designing them.) Comes down to simplicity vs. features/power, and it seems to me that the European market often goes for the latter.

    Obviously, this is a broad generality, so take it with a grain of salt. But I wondered if there was anything to it.
    Jeff Meyer

    "And he died like he lived: with his mouth wide open."
  12. #72  
    Originally posted by bookrats
    "Luge strategy? Lie flat and try not to die."
    I just noticed that. Hilarious!
    That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you.
  13. purpleX
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    #73  
    Time capsule:

    The state of PDA news site and market share:

    The highest traffict PDA site
    -Brighthand
    -pocketpcthoughts
    -palminfocenter


    Latest worldwide marketshare number (Q2 '03)

    51% POS
    35.9% PPC

    http://www3.gartner.com/5_about/press_releases/pr15aug2003b.jsp
    http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16757

    This is the last quarter Handspring and Palm Inc exist, they will split merge into Palmsource and Palmone.
  14. #74  
    Originally posted by purpleX
    Time capsule:

    The highest traffict PDA site
    -Brighthand
    -pocketpcthoughts
    -palminfocenter
    I switched much of my attention over to PalmInfoCenter a couple of years ago, but am now moving to BrightHand -- due greatly to them taking both Palms and PocketPCs seriously.
    Jeff Meyer

    "And he died like he lived: with his mouth wide open."
  15.    #75  
    Good God! This is a blast from the past. Why on Earth did you dig up this old thread?
  16. #76  
    Originally posted by foo fighter
    Good God! This is a blast from the past. Why on Earth did you dig up this old thread?
    It's a great test of VisorCentral's (oops, TreoCentral's) e-mail notification capabilities.
    Jeff Meyer

    "And he died like he lived: with his mouth wide open."
  17.    #77  
    Originally posted by bookrats
    It's a great test of VisorCentral's (oops, TreoCentral's) e-mail notification capabilities.
    Ha! I kept rubbing my eyes when I looked that subject line.
  18. #78  
    Originally posted by weberflo
    I really doubt that Palm will survive the next 2 years.

    Wow, this statement from about 2 years ago. And all of us having conniption fits over the 600!!!
  19. purpleX
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    #79  
    Palm survives but to a certain degree he is correct.

    Soon Palm inc. as everybody knows it 2 years ago will be no more and be replaced by two companies. They still haven't made year to year profit since and barely able to hold on to their market share. Most analyst predict by 2005 PPC will overtake POS marketshare tho I think it will come half year earlier.

    Handspring implodes completely as a corporation, Handera is out, and Sony seems to stop growing.

    PPC will hold the price lead in all color model starting next month and ahead in smartphone market. (Last quarter Orange sells 58K SPV as oppose to less than 45K treo) PPC has double the models number and triple the OEM number compared to POS.

    I'd say, something has changed in the past 2 years, and it is not in Palms advantage.
  20. #80  
    Originally posted by purpleX

    I'd say, something has changed in the past 2 years, and it is not in Palms advantage.
    The way I see it both Palm and PPC changed and got more closer to the other..
    Palm got more multimedia and better office support while PPC got better battery life and smaller form factor..
    Those were the mayor differences 2 years ago, nowadays the differences on that front are hardly there anymore..

    Both parties learned from their shortcommings and nowadays they are pretty much different implementations of the same thing..
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