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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by surur View Post
    Thats very wrong. How could you do that!

    Surur
  2.    #42  
    I don't think I could do any of my work as a CPA on an iPhone...I perform a lot of the analysis so its not even possible to do my work on a mobile device. Even editing a memo on a screen smaller than 9" would be a PITA IMO...
  3. #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetluva View Post
    I've wasted more than enough time on this topic with you.
    maybe next time you'll simply answer "hey, thanks for the well wishes."

    you should practice what you preach, but given that you're a teacher and a cpa allows me to understand the overly-defensive nature in your replies.
    Blackberry Pearl (AT&T), Apple 3G iPhone,
    owned and used: Treo 750 (WM5, Cingular)
    T680 unlocked (T-Mo), T700wx, T700w, T650, T600
    ppc6600, i730, htc mogul, BB Bold, Curve
  4. #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by mobileman View Post
    I love it when somebody claims another persons opinion is wrong. You must go to the school of Surur.


    I often email myself word attachments to view on my iPhone. I think it works great.
    I was not talking about attachments... I'm talking legal documents. When I worked in legal many moons ago there is no way you would be able to do your job on a cell phone... and I submit that still holds true. Sometimes people say things to "win" an argument.

    No, I don't go to the school of surur... I've known "about" surur for many years... he provides a lot of information and workd hard for the pda/smartphone community (not just this forum)...

    I'll bust his chops every now and again, but I'll trust his opinion before yours.
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  5. #45  
    Quote Originally Posted by cmaier View Post
    as for "hire a new computer person," I work for one of the biggest law firms in the world, and they have an entire computer department, and therein lies the problem :-) We aren't permitted to use acrobat (we use a third-party pdf reader that takes so long just to fire up that i can generally skim the entire document on my phone before the desktop application even loads).
    You sound like my friends (JAG Officers) in the Navy... They claim to be from the "largest law firm in the world." Their computers also "suck," like yours. lol Strange....

    I've been inside some of the largest civilian law firms and their computer systems are amazing. Of course, even a civiliam law firm could grow so large that they don't update their computers in a timely fashion.... would be odd though... time is money...
    Last edited by theog; 06/20/2008 at 08:31 PM.
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  6. #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetluva View Post
    I don't think I could do any of my work as a CPA on an iPhone...I perform a lot of the analysis so its not even possible to do my work on a mobile device. Even editing a memo on a screen smaller than 9" would be a PITA IMO...
    maybe this is where some of the confusion is coming from.

    you're a CPA (you mentioned it first) but you say that you wouldn't use the iPhone for your accounting practice needs, just for your teaching profession. ok, makes a bit more sense to me now. i thought by you mentioning that you were a CPA that you actually might be doing some of that type of work on an iPhone which i personally didn't see how.

    and yes, i agree, and have said for years now, it always amazes me how some do get spreadsheet and word document work done on their Treos. i personally couldn't get any of my work done on it and maybe that's why i prefer the smallest/most thin pocketable device that fulfills my needs.
    Blackberry Pearl (AT&T), Apple 3G iPhone,
    owned and used: Treo 750 (WM5, Cingular)
    T680 unlocked (T-Mo), T700wx, T700w, T650, T600
    ppc6600, i730, htc mogul, BB Bold, Curve
  7. #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    You sound like my friends (JAG Officers) in the Navy... They claim to be from the "largest law firm in the world." Their computers also "suck," like yours. lol Strange....

    I've been inside some of the largest civilian law firms and their computer systems are amazing. Of course, even a civiliam law firm could grow so large that they don't update their computers in a timely fashion.... would be odd though... time is money...
    My firm has 1800 attorneys world-wide. Time is money, but money is also money, and moreso.

    I've never seen a law firm with "amazing" computer systems; but then, I designed microprocessors at AMD for 9 years, and THAT's where I saw some amazing stuff.
  8. #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    I was not talking about attachments... I'm talking legal documents. When I worked in legal many moons ago there is no way you would be able to do your job on a cell phone... and I submit that still holds true. Sometimes people say things to "win" an argument.
    I am not trying to "win" an argument. I have no stake in this argument, and haven't taken a side. "Submit" whatever you want. In the mean time, anyone who has used an iphone to read pdf files know that the experience is about as good as it can possibly be given the size of the screen.

    I also didn't say i "do my job" on a cell phone. I said I read documents on my phone. Obviously reading documents is a small part of doing my job. If you think it is not possible to read documents on a cell phone, why? It was certainly possible (albeit unpleasant) on my treo, and millions of lawyers do it with blackberrys, which have smaller screens and less proficiency with pdf attachments. People read e-books, attachments with docs2go, etc. Your argument makes no sense.

    You also say you "worked in legal." I presume that means you weren't a lawyer? My experience has been that paralegals and legal secretaries don't do much reading of documents. Or did you hold some other position "in legal?"
  9. #49  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    I'll bust his chops every now and again, but I'll trust his opinion before yours.
    Thanks for the kind words. I think Surur has found a sidekick.
    Last edited by mobileman; 06/21/2008 at 08:13 PM.
  10.    #50  
    Quote Originally Posted by oalvarez View Post
    maybe next time you'll simply answer "hey, thanks for the well wishes."

    you should practice what you preach, but given that you're a teacher and a cpa allows me to understand the overly-defensive nature in your replies.
    Perhaps defensive, but I don't respect the tone of your posts.

    Referencing your other post, I know that alot of posts can be easily misinterpreted, thus I'm willing to put all of this inane dribble behind us, but I think many would appreciate it if you were to watch how you word certain things - given the condescending/belittling nature of your posts, whether intentional or not - is not welcome.
  11. #51  
    perhaps they turn that way after being wrongly questioned, initially. your posts are no less condescending, especially the one that you fired my way after simply wishing you best success with your new device (which i happen to own).
    Blackberry Pearl (AT&T), Apple 3G iPhone,
    owned and used: Treo 750 (WM5, Cingular)
    T680 unlocked (T-Mo), T700wx, T700w, T650, T600
    ppc6600, i730, htc mogul, BB Bold, Curve
  12. #52  
    Quote Originally Posted by cmaier View Post
    You also say you "worked in legal." I presume that means you weren't a lawyer? My experience has been that paralegals and legal secretaries don't do much reading of documents. Or did you hold some other position "in legal?"
    I've had several positions... Obviously, you don't know much about the legal field if you think paralegals or legal secretaries "don't do much reading of documents." Maybe you are only reading powers of attorney or something... I dunno. But we never read any documents for fun anyway. Documents were either in a couple of stages... never the "I'll read for fun on my phone" stage.

    But like I said, we often say things to win an argument.... you seem to be starting down that route again. I only jumped in when I saw that statement you made about your iphone and the computer... I thought it was BS and still do. Sorry. I'm presumptuous and all other kinds of things you can think of...

    Right now I'm out this post... kinda boring now... think the life was sucked out of it a while ago....

    Go to an iPhone or stay with WM?

    That 'tis the question....
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  13. #53  
    Quote Originally Posted by mobileman View Post
    Thanks for the kind words. I think Surur has found a sidekick.
    You are welcome!

    Surur rides solo.... no room for me, unfortunately.
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  14. #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by theog View Post
    I've had several positions... Obviously, you don't know much about the legal field if you think paralegals or legal secretaries "don't do much reading of documents." Maybe you are only reading powers of attorney or something... I dunno. But we never read any documents for fun anyway. Documents were either in a couple of stages... never the "I'll read for fun on my phone" stage.

    But like I said, we often say things to win an argument.... you seem to be starting down that route again. I only jumped in when I saw that statement you made about your iphone and the computer... I thought it was BS and still do. Sorry. I'm presumptuous and all other kinds of things you can think of...

    Right now I'm out this post... kinda boring now... think the life was sucked out of it a while ago....

    Go to an iPhone or stay with WM?

    That 'tis the question....
    since you won't answer the question, i think people can judge your credibility for themselves.

    And, again, if people can read ebooks on their treos and word docs on their htcs, why, exactly (beyond "i think it's bs" and "i just don't believe it") do you think its impossible to read pleadings on an iphone? What makes it impossible? What is so special about legal documents that makes it apparently the one kind of document that cannot possibly be read on a mobile device? The statement I made that you seem to have such an objection to is that I frequently read pleadings and orders on my iphone. What makes that BS? Or perhaps you object to my preference for the phone over the PC? If so, I will admit it's easier to read a page on the PC - that should be obvious. It just takes longer to load (and, once loaded, scrolls more slowly) on the pc.

    And, again, what argument was I trying to win? The original poster asked for advice, and pointed out that his needs were tied to being a teacher and CPA. I don't know what kind of documents he has to read, so to give him context I stated my profession and the kinds of documents I read. I wasn't arguing with anyone, so who was I trying to convince?

    And, finally, regarding your "documents were in a couple of stages" and "read for fun" arguments, I don't understand them. I am a litigator. If the opposition files a motion, I don't get to see "stages" of the document. If the judge issues an order, I don't get to see "stages" of the document. If i'm out of the office when it happens, I read these documents on my phone. I do not read them for "fun." I read them to see if they require immediate action on my part, to see if I need to send an email or make a call, etc. If someone in my office has a "stage" of a document they'd like me to read, i might read that on my phone, too, but it's not for "fun." Clearly, if i'm going to need to send redlines or something i'm not going to use my iphone for it, but the iphone works fine to enable me to read the document and see what it has to say.

    And, yeah, now I am arguing with YOU. Because I hate when people say unsupported and unsupportable garbage and repeat their own arguments as proof. If you can explain why it's impossible to read legal documents on a phone, why it's impossible for my phone to load them faster/scroll faster than my desktop running PDF Converter Pro, and who I was arguing with in the original post you decided to deride, I'd lov to hear it.
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