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    I can hardly remember my life before having a PDA. I held a Palm Pilot for the first time in 1996, a Pilot 1000 my father received at work. He was somewhat non-plussed; technology was not his gig and he deferred to me for most things with a power button. For me, the Palm Pilot was something revolutionary and Graffiti input was mind-blowing.

    The addiction and PDA-dependence grew from there for me. I was "plugged in" and my vocabulary would now include words and acronyms like "stylus", "PIM" and "SD Card". As other platforms emerged, like Pocket PC and Symbian, I remained doggedly loyal to the Palm OS through it's progression of versions. I watched Palm OS become Garnet and then "FrankenGarnet." I even got used to seeing "Powered by Access" when I fired up my trusty Palm. I made the leap from PDA to a converged device with the Treo 650, then the 680. Throughout the years I endured the criticisms of Palm's lack of multitasking, multithreading, no wifi (!?!) and antiquated PIM. I remained a Palm loyalist and apologist, looking toward the horizon for a Cobalt or Palm OS 2 that would never come.

    More on my migration to the iPhone after the break!

    Read more at http://www.phonedifferent.com/2008/0...from_treo.html
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    Excellent article Brian! I still use both a Treo 680 and an iPhone, and I agree with your conclusions on both devices. Safari just rules as a web browser! My husband has just switched from a Treo 650 to an iPhone and I'm in the midst of watching him going down the rabbit hole. He's sure enjoying the ride so far! ;-)
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    Thanks, pdaluver! I'm very much enjoying the trip myself and looking forward to more twists and turns as the hole deepens! I still carry around my old 650 in my bag, perhaps as a security blanket, but once 3rd party apps come online, I suspect the 650 may move from my bag to my "island of misfit toys" drawer
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    Almost my exact story! No matter how much a pimped my Treo with DialByPhoto, pTunes, etc. I just couldn't make it a modern UI or useful media player, and the deal-ender was that it crashed on dial or receipt of phone calls almost daily. (Never mind 3rd party apps, some of which just killed it outright).

    And I *never* liked the tictac keyboard. My mushy fingers were always dialing wrong. Plus, when I sprained my wrist, I couldn't put enough pressure on to type or even dial -- no such worries with the iPhone keyboard.

    I do miss dial by photo, type to find contacts, IR/BT beaming of PIM data, and a few other things, but over all I'm so far down the rabbit hole Neo, Alice, and Miller's Batman can eat my dust...
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    Yes, Rene, I know what you are saying concerning Treo crashes on calls, sometimes switching apps, or even if it's breathed on. One thing I found completely unacceptable with my Treos, and it may be carrier-specific, is a call-waiting issue that I was never able to resolve. Quite often, if I ignored an incoming second call, my first call would get disconnected as soon as my Treo notified me of the missed second call. This has never happened with my iPhone.

    There are still many things I like about Treos specifically and Palm in general, but Palm would have to accomplish something magnificent to lure me back into the fold. Even then, I don't ever see myself parting with my iPhone
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    I just dove in last night. I have been trying to convince myself not to since Jan 2007, when we first glimpsed that beautiful toy.

    I am only on my first full day with the iPhone, and I already know it is the device I have been waiting for since I bought my first PalmPilot! Sure it has its weaknesses, but I can deal with them. The browser is simply amazing, and that made the sale.

    In my journey, I kept finding myself trying to make my Palm into an iPhone, and it never quite worked. The elegance of the iPhone interface is great. The 8 gigs of memory is unheard of in a PDA.

    And I really do consider the iPhone a PDA. It pretty much does exactly what I used my PDAs for anyway. Apps are coming, jailbreak is already here.

    I tend to move on from device to device, but this one may stay around for a while. As far edge goes, not really an issue for me, browsing will almost always be done via wifi, edge will only be for email.

    The iPhone is what Palm should have been 5 years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mclark2112 View Post
    The iPhone is what Palm should have been 5 years ago...
    Palm should have been a toy 5 years ago?
    No problem should ever be solved twice.

    Verizon Treo650 W/Custom ROM
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    mclark2112 has competitively advantaged the correct!

    That I couldn't tell a major difference between my 600 and my 680 was the last straw. If Palm had been caught in amber for 5 years we would have seen the same amount of non-development.

    To blow such an incredible lead is mind-numbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DL.Cummings View Post
    Palm should have been a toy 5 years ago?
    A toy is really all I ever wanted, web, games, tunes, calendar. I don't use lists, something about my personality hates them, so lack of to do items doesn't bother me.

    But yes, my Palms have always been more toy than tool. But I always wanted the Holy Grail, the perfect mobile browser. Safari is the closest I have seen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mclark2112 View Post
    A toy is really all I ever wanted, web, games, tunes, calendar. I don't use lists, something about my personality hates them, so lack of to do items doesn't bother me.

    But yes, my Palms have always been more toy than tool. But I always wanted the Holy Grail, the perfect mobile browser. Safari is the closest I have seen...
    Fair enough. Different folks, different strokes.

    I know for myself, the fact that my Palm functions as a tool is toy enough for me--not that I don't wish they would have done a bit better as of recent.

    I will say that I believe the two differing concepts could indeed be molded together (toy + tool) so as to satisfy a larger percent of the population.
    No problem should ever be solved twice.

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    OK, I just did the Jailbreak thing. I used Ziphone, way easy.

    I installed a To Do list, really nice, even though I won't use it . Email is great.

    I even like the keyboard, it isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The predictive/corrective text works well too.
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    Yes, I have a problem...
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    Interesting review, thanks. I am still waiting for a few things before I am reading to switch.

    1) Push email
    2) Full PIM functionality.
    3) Pocket Quicken.
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    I just have one nit to pick about the article. Re the "cheek and Treo" - you must have missed Prefs -> Keyguard -> Disable touchscreen ?
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    I change my mind every day, Treo800w or iphone. I can't wait. If the recent news of gps is true for the Iphone...I'm jumping from my 700wx to an iphone.
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    Waiting for a 2008-era 1.0 to solidify vs. waiting for a 1999-era Palm to wring the last great gobs of death out of their device before (maybe) debuting a new OS in (maybe) 2-5 years?

    No contest. iPhone, for me, is the first Treo all over again; the start of something new and big, and I'm enjoying it every bit as much as I enjoyed the Treo until it abandoned me 5 years ago...
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    I used to have an iPhone, cost me over $600 at the time and I ended up selling it for $250. I'm now getting a Treo 750 and I honestly think I will enjoy it much more. The iPhone has terrible battery life if you use it for anything other than a phone. I did like the internet, but eventually that got boring. It's a neat toy, but really I'd probably rather have an iTouch and a smartphone/PPC.
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    I have a treo 680, a blackberry and getting the iphone shortly...it will be an interesting battle
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    @lefc,

    You might have had a dud unit. My iPhone, with quite a bit of voice, and wifi and blue tooth on, typically lasts me 2+ days. I've used it all day, forgotten to charge it, left it on playing a podcast, and still had it near-full the next morning. The only thing that seriously drains it is watching movies or hours of browsing.

    By contrast, my Treo 680, with no WiFi (still!), no BT on, and no serious media (!) or browsing (!), would be at less than half at the end of a similar day. Turn on BT, and it would drain out. I even got a fatty battery and it didn't help much (though that could have been a dud battery too).
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    The link appears to be dead. I found the article http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03...reo-to-iphone/
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    I find that i have to charge the iphone daily or its dead in the morning. Does have poor battery life.
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