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  1. #41  
    Quote Originally Posted by mobileman View Post
    MS doesn't make any hardware.
    ...neither does Google (Android).

    Point?

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  2. #42  
    Quote Originally Posted by Malatesta View Post
    as I have said before, there is no room in the market for a company
    1. Who doesn't make their own OS
    2. Who doesn't make their own hardware
    3. But who slaps other companies' OSs onto other companies' hardware
    so according to you, there is no room in this market for Microsoft and Google?
  3. #43  
    What he meant was:

    There is no room in the market for a company...
    Who doesn't make their own OS... AND
    Who doesn't make their own hardware...
    But who slaps other companies' OSs onto other companies' hardware

    i.e. you're "allowed" to make one OR the other OR both, but not NEITHER instead simply to "slap"...
  4. #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by neurocutie View Post
    What he meant was:

    There is no room in the market for a company...
    Who doesn't make their own OS... AND
    Who doesn't make their own hardware...
    But who slaps other companies' OSs onto other companies' hardware

    i.e. you're "allowed" to make one OR the other OR both, but not NEITHER instead simply to "slap"...
    I see. I think the real money is in owning both. Like RIM and Apple. I actually don't really get the excitement of Android at all. What makes it any different or more open than Windows Mobile? Its just java based now.
  5. #45  
    Quote Originally Posted by neurocutie View Post
    What he meant was:
    .
    couldn't have said it better myself...oh wait, I could have
    Quote Originally Posted by mobileman View Post
    I see. I think the real money is in owning both. Like RIM and Apple. I actually don't really get the excitement of Android at all. What makes it any different or more open than Windows Mobile? Its just java based now.
    Owning both is pretty huge but technically I'm not sure anyone does, good question though.

    RIM and Apple technically both outsource the device manufacturing, which is to be expected to keep costs down (at least I know RIM uses TLC Comm for and in China, maybe the exception? and I know Asus reportedly makes Apple's laptops), but yeah, both also have a very heavy hand in product development and engineering, like Palm.

    Ideally, indeed engineering your hardware and software results in the best devices. Making your own OS and licensing it anyone (MS and Android model) could lead to more device, but with great variation and inconsistencies in behavior; but if done right, the Palm-Apple-RIM model can be very powerful as we have seen.

    Android? Who knows. I think right now people's imaginations are running rampant with possibilities but I think it may have a tough time in the market, at least initially. I'm not impressed by 30 huge corps supposedly getting together to agree on anything, especially when we have this many problems now in the industry.

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  6. #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by neurocutie View Post
    What he meant was:

    There is no room in the market for a company...
    Who doesn't make their own OS... AND
    Who doesn't make their own hardware...
    But who slaps other companies' OSs onto other companies' hardware

    i.e. you're "allowed" to make one OR the other OR both, but not NEITHER instead simply to "slap"...
    BTW, did you notice that this was a perfect example of DeMorgan's Theorems:

    not (P and Q) = (not P) or (not Q)
    not (P or Q) = (not P) and (not Q)
    (P or Q) = not ((not P) and (not Q))

    (geeky, I know...)
  7. #47  
    lol...geeky is very good

    nice to know once in awhile I make logical posts ;-)

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  8. #48  
    Quote Originally Posted by dkirker View Post
    Well, operating systems aren't built overnight.
    But they certainly are built over years, which is how long palm has been talking about a Linux OS...
    Treo 180 (T-Mo) --> Treo 600 (T-Mo) --> Treo 180 (T-Mo) --> Treo 650 (T-Mo) --> Treo 650 NC (Cing) --> Treo 680 (Cing) --> Pre (Sprint)

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