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  1. #101  
    Originally posted by Tom Munch
    Either way I already ordered one from PalmGear that is supposed to be shipped on or after May 1. I'll make a judgement in person when I get my paws on one.
    You already ordered what? A HandEra? (By the way, is it me or it's kinda strange saying "HandEra" as in "I've got a HandEra".) Anyway, I thought that the Handera is not available until June?

    Ya know.... at first I was not really impressed with the HandEra, but this thing is really unique and has a bunch of improvements. It's not sleek like the m505 or the Edge, it's not flashy like the Clie, but the HandEra is kinda cool in a geeky, swiss-army, McGyver kinda way.
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    #102  
    Hey, you're right. I meant a Handera 330. & yes, that is kind of weird to say. PalmGear had them this morning with a ship date of May 1.
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    I have an audio question. Will you be able to record audio and run other functions simultaneously? I would like to record meeting/class comments while being able to enter notes or lookup items at the same time. I should think that that wouldn't be a problem, but does anyone know for sure. I love the idea of recording to CF or SD for virtually unlimited records and store back to the PC as a WAV.

    Anyone confirm that the LED can be used as a silent alarm? That would be about the only feature that's missing for me. That and a jack for headphone/earphone to privately listen to audio. Both of these should be in place!

    Edited: I may have just found the answer to my own question regarding the silent LED alarm. On pencomputing they mention that "There's a charger/alert light in the upper left." Maybe "alert light" means silent alarm. Darn, I still don't know.

    http://pencomputing.com/palm/palmnew...ws4-20-01.html

    *Definately no earphone jack though.

    Tom, please let us know if PalmGear actually meets a May 1 ship date. Then tell about how cool the HE330 really is!
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  4. #104  
    Hmm, i really don't know if such a screen is optimal. Higher resolution is cool, but i think it's not high enough.
    Running programs in windowed mode seems to be not optimal at all. The window would be very small, wouldn't it? (homer: Unfortunately PalmOS does not support multitasking. Maybe that comes with PalmOS 5)

    And the Landscape mode is also cool for working with QuickOffice for example.
    The only problem: How do you want to connect the HandEra with a Stowaway in landscape mode? It's very important for a device used for business to connect it with a keyboard. In landscape mode not possible yet.

    You want a color HandEra?
    Yes, that would be fine. But i suggest that the color screen also has increased resolution (320x420 or anything like that). So you could also run programs full screen with pixel doubling.
  5. #105  
    There is a nice article about the HE330 @Palmstation including a coverstation with Mike Walter and Doug DeVries from HandEra:

    An in depth look at the HandEra 330
    Posted by hal-j
    Posted on Tue Apr 24 10:57:04 2001
    I had the pleasure of chatting with Mike Walter and Doug DeVries from HandEra after the news about the 330 broke. They had alot of interesting things to say, both about the new device, and HandEra the company.

    http://www.palmstation.com/view_arti...80&flat_mode=1
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  6. #106  
    ...and the font issue is answered:

    http://images.palmstation.com/330/new/330-8.jpg
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    According to the article in today's PDAbuzz, the Handera generates it's own fonts in higher resolution. That's pretty impressive. I wonder if Sony does the same in their high resoulution mode?

    Maybe someone out there may have an opinion on rather high resolution and color vs. high res. and larger screen would be better for reading text.

    I can't decide between the Sony or the HandEra?
    Fat's
  8. #108  
    Maybe someone out there may have an opinion on rather high resolution and color vs. high res. and larger screen would be better for reading text.
    Color, in and of itself, has little, if anything to do with readibility.

    The biggest factor in readbility is contrast. Generally, the higher the contrast, the better, though there is a point where too much contrast can actually cause eye-strain.

    In the end, however, it really is a personal preference. Studies have shown that people read the best what they read the most. So if something works for you, stick with it.
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  9. #109  
    Originally posted by Fat_Man
    According to the article in today's PDAbuzz, the Handera generates it's own fonts in higher resolution. That's pretty impressive. I wonder if Sony does the same in their high resoulution mode?

    Maybe someone out there may have an opinion on rather high resolution and color vs. high res. and larger screen would be better for reading text.

    I can't decide between the Sony or the HandEra?
    All things being equal (ie good reader programs available for both), I would vote for the Sony. The two most important factors are resolution and display contrast. The Sony is higher resolution, and a color panel is almost always higher contrast than a monochrome panel since the color panel gives a true white background.

    To me, the biggest thing that the HandEra has going for it in the e-book comparison is landscape mode. reading a wide line of text with the buttons on the right (or on the left side for wrong-handed folks) sounds way good.

    Just my $0.02.
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  10. #110  
    Yes, I agree that contrast is more important than color. The contrast on a color screen with the black on white text would be better to a monochrome screen, don't you think?
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    Yes, I agree that contrast is more important than color. The contrast on a color screen with the black on white text would be better to a monochrome screen, don't you think?
    yes, though black text on a white background is not necesssarily the best. Typically black type on a light grey background is a better bet. The bright white of a display (projected light) is actually TOO MUCH contrast for reading.

    On the color Palms, can you change the default background color?
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    #112  
    Originally posted by homer


    On the color Palms, can you change the default background color?
    You can change them with either Chrome or Khroma apps.
  13. #113  
    Palmstation really has HandEra's attention. Here are some more pics posted to this URL:

    http://www.palmstation.com/view_arti...80&flat_mode=1

    Cradle (With power jack for charging) and CF/SD dummy cards.
    http://www.mikew.org/HandEra330/accessories.jpg

    Battery Compartment.
    http://www.mikew.org/HandEra330/batteries.jpg

    Side view with Palm V and IIIxe.
    http://www.mikew.org/HandEra330/comparison.jpg

    HandEra 330 using external power jack.
    http://www.mikew.org/HandEra330/extra-power.jpg

    Wireless email station, my absolute favorite setup!
    http://www.mikew.org/HandEra330/wireless.jpg

    I like the black flip, silver face, with a black back.
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  14. #114  
    Good and bad news. My original question to Palmstation was if the HE330 LED can be a silent alarm, and can one record and access other functions i.e. datebook/memopad simultaneously. Here's HE's reply:

    Silent Alarm (mike_w @ Tue Apr 24 21:15:44 2001)
    The led can be used as a silent alarm.

    The voice recorder requires the full cpu power of the device, because of this you can not run other applications while using it.

    No recording, and typing on a Palm keyboard at the same time.
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    #116  
    Just had a thought. How will the Handera handle hacks that use the silkscreen area - e.g. SwitchHack, TealLaunch, App/DA Launcher? This could be a problem for me. I live & die for the convenience those hacks add.
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    Another problem with the soft graffiti area is that in most cases, the area of the screen that gets scratched through use is the graffiti area. I know that my Visor Deluxe has some noticeable scratches in the graffiti area because I use graffiti a lot; it never bothers me because I never have to view anything in that area.

    For the HandEra, the standard graffiti area will become prime viewing real estate in landscape mode. I know it would bother me to view spreadsheets or an e-book through a scratched screen.

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    #118  
    You'd better use WriteRights then. I have used them since the Pilot 1000. Make sure you get the clear ones for the IIIc or for color CE machines.
    Last edited by Tom Munch; 04/26/2001 at 10:33 PM.
  19. #119  
    The Handera is wonderful! They're doing everything they should be! Even better, it'll run with all of my Palm III and VII add-ons! I think they should add a color screen down the line, but the flexibility they have with power supplies, truly STOMPS the competition: mostly, the Handspring Visor Platinum.

    I think comparing the M500 to the HandEra is a bit offkey, but they will compete. Keep in mind, the M500 is nice & tiny, and let's be honest, it looks better than everything else, even the Visor Edge. People may not want all of the bulk that comes with the HandEra (that's why the V series is so hot) but in my opinion, the HandEra's lengthy list of features more-than-justify it's price.

    However, I think the M505 will currently top all Palm OS handhelds. Thank you palm for adding a color screen that does NOT always need a battery-draining backlight, in an ultra-svelte design!!!!!

    And Sony's CLIE is the biggest POS to ever hit the handheld industry. Sony's hard pressed to make a set of headphones that won't rust. They're giving Palm's a bad name!
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    And Sony's CLIE is the biggest POS to ever hit the handheld industry. Sony's hard pressed to make a set of headphones that won't rust. They're giving Palm's a bad name!
    Your permission to speak on my thread has been removed. Don't ever talk again...find a nice cliff and fall over it.

    Sony revolutioned the screen, can someone say "better resolution."

    You have no clue what you are talking about.
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