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  1. #21  
    Originally posted by yosemitesamiam
    ...To me, Palm is a one dog and pony show...they have their product, they have had their limelight....and now they are about to get run out of town. This not only goes for their hardware, but if they don't make some major improvements, it will go for their software as well.

    Sam
    So you're saying that the myriads of people who own a palm OS device and like it because it does what they need it to do are going to change their tastes radically toward a convoluted, bloated, over-priced (for what they need it for) device? Their "one dog and pony show" covers the basics. What made the Palm OS big was its cheap price tag, its stinginess with batteries, its simplicity, its size, great rogue developer relationship, and that it took the most important info from your computer and put into something you could keep with you. Those needs haven't changed. I think Palm's market share is slipping partly because it's starting to move away from that ideal. We are the elite. We want more powerful, faster, colorful. And, unfortunately, we're pushing development of this OS into PPC land. Microsoft is happy as a pig in ____, because they can win the handheld war on their own turf (bloated and over-priced software). They look pretty, but they're still not as functional as a Palm for most people.
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  2. #22  
    Originally posted by ****-richardson

    So you're saying that the myriads of people who own a palm OS device and like it because it does what they need it to do are going to change their tastes radically toward a convoluted, bloated, over-priced (for what they need it for) device?
    Maybe. I think a lot of folks probably bought their Palm machines 1-2 years ago, before WinCE/PocketPC really started making a push. At that time Palm WAS the only game in town. Now when you go to Circuit City you see the pretty and big iPaq next to the monochrome small-screen Palms, and I do believe the decision gets harder. Bloat and overpricing does sell. Nobody needs DKNY clothing, 50 inch TVs, SubZero refrigerators, 400W Klipsch speakers, G4 cubes...

    (I'm sorry! I couldn't resist! It was too easy! )
  3. #23  
    Originally posted by dalamar70


    Maybe. I think a lot of folks probably bought their Palm machines 1-2 years ago, before WinCE/PocketPC really started making a push. At that time Palm WAS the only game in town. Now when you go to Circuit City you see the pretty and big iPaq next to the monochrome small-screen Palms, and I do believe the decision gets harder. Bloat and overpricing does sell. Nobody needs DKNY clothing, 50 inch TVs, SubZero refrigerators, 400W Klipsch speakers, G4 cubes...

    (I'm sorry! I couldn't resist! It was too easy! )
    Um...Oh. Good point.
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  4. #24  
    I'm suprised Celchu19 hasn't made any comments in this thread. Hmmm...
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  5.    #25  
    I bought an iPaq, but I don't like it...

    The Sony Clie just came out...maybe that'll be worth a go!!!

    Off to ebay.com I go!!!
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  6. #26  
    Hmm. Old thread back again.

    Anyway, I have had my Handera for 2 weeks now. I would love a color PDA with the speed of a PPC, but battery life is a killer. My batteries have lasted a LONG time (including a lot of syncing), and PDABuzz got one to last for over 40 hours of straight use, including a lot with the backlight on. I am planning to happily use the Handera to read books on week-long backpacking trips (I have about 50 loaded on my CF card now).
  7. #27  
    Originally posted by yaz320
    I bought an iPaq, but I don't like it...

    The Sony Clie just came out...maybe that'll be worth a go!!!

    Off to ebay.com I go!!!
    You wouldn't be the first person to ditch the iPaq for the CLIE. Check the link to BrightHand I posted in the PDA gossip thread.
    "That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you...."
  8. #28  
    Yaz - what didn't you like about the IPaq? Just curious.
  9.    #29  
    Its HUGE.

    And you need to shell out more $$$ for expansion and it makes it even HUGER.


    Besides that, I liked it. The programs took a lot of memory though. The 2 button at once was another thing I didn't like.

    Looking at a palm screen after using an iPaq made me want to cry.

    Its also mucho $$$
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  10. #30  
    I recently got my prism (upgraded from a VDX). I could have gotten a Jornada 548. I didn't. I had to setup one for someone else for dial in to our network. That killed it. Every time I clicked on something there was a lag between the click sound and the screen responding. DROVE ME NUTS!!!!! Neither the deluxe nor the prism have that kind of lag.
    I can control my servers or my desktop with VNC. Did my car tag renewal with browse-it and with desktop to go I get the PDF/word/excel attachments off the exchange server. I already had apps that I liked (wordsmith, ewallet, etc).
    I've got the wireless ethernet module on order and if they can ever get decent wireless service where I am I'll go with it instead(Sprint hurry up!)

    I make my living on fixing windows problems. For me the visor/PalmOS line meets my needs better period. IF they ever get the ipaq's smaller or give you the option of having say one expansion card internal without that damned sleeve then it's back on my reevaluation list. Should the PalmOS fail to meet my needs down the line I will also reconsider but for now....Don't need the headache.
  11. #31  
    -The palm has less than HALF the size of the other devices. It will fit fine in your shirt pocket. The ipaq is a
    nasty brick. The em500g has the nicest formfactor of all PPC, but it's still double the size of the Palm m505. At
    least it's not to heavy for really PDA use and carriing in your jacket.

    -There are much more aplications for the Palm, meaning there are better ones. Of 10 applications for the same
    thing for one special operating systems usually 3 are trash and have errors, 2 aren't that good, 3 are ok and to
    their job well and 2 are really great. You'll always find that two for the palm (as long as it's not about audion and
    video), and for some special or business programms you'll have trouble finding even a total of two (which may
    be bad and useless) for PPCs. If you want to replace paper by your PDA, you'll need an outliner. Go for bonsai
    on the palm, $25, no comparison on the PPC. FOr real goal orientated time management, go for
    LifeTimeBalances, no such thing for PPC...

    -PPCs have the faster hardware with more space, but the slower and bigger operating system, meaning: They are
    superior for multimedia and action games like pocketdoom (and some wired stuff like 50MB databases on the
    PDA, which you have to sort every two minutes), but for almost every other thing, palmOS is just as fast and
    you won't get space problems. There are some nice games for palm too, even action games like zap2016! and
    VRallye, but that'S nothing comapred to all the console emulators and Quake for the PPCs.
    Because most palm apps even open right in the moment you click at them, ther'S also no need for multitasking
    on the Palm. It can't do multimedia anyway, and no one would use two apps at a time on a 3,5" screen if not for
    audio. To cut something from one apllication and paste it in another and stuff like this, it seems like the palm is
    acting as a PPC with the two programs open and switching, or a windows98 system doing the same thing (only
    win98 is slower with this than PPCs and palms .

    I really know what I'm talking of, and in three weeks I'll have to write a cross-OS article on backups for PDAs for a German magazin and get a Casio E125G as well as two Psions to play with again for some weeks... Let's make it short:
    PPCs are the multimedai machienes, but I don't want headphones interfering with my free PDA usage or draining my battery which lasts too short for real heavy usage on the road with PPCs. THe only way to read the screen if you are working in different light conditions is to get an ipaq or palm m505 or get a grayscale device. PPCs with grayscale really suck. I also don't like the ipaq (if I had to buy a PPC, I'd buy a em500g because of the small size). Boy, theese things are bricks. Ahhh, I wanted to make it short, so here'S it:
    Palms are smaller, batterie lasts longer, better UI, better and more software and accesories for everything, much smarter and even faster for most organizer taks - and: YES, MY PALM CAN DO IT ALL except multimedia, but I have my Siemens mobile phone for mp3 and voice notes which I don't use often, but in my car with a hands free kit while driving.

    zap!
  12.    #32  
    Oh yea, dust was a problem too.

    Waiting for my replacement from Compaq so I can sell it.
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  13. #33  
    Originally posted by yaz320
    Its HUGE.

    And you need to shell out more $$$ for expansion and it makes it even HUGER.


    Besides that, I liked it. The programs took a lot of memory though. The 2 button at once was another thing I didn't like.

    Looking at a palm screen after using an iPaq made me want to cry.

    Its also mucho $$$
    I think when people realize that the extra horsepower in the hardware is just there to push the bulky OS around at a decent speed, Palm devices start to look pretty good.

    When the OS 5/ ARM units come out, able to support PPC-caliber multimedia, the gap will be closed. If you've got your multimedia toys (Quake ), along with the classic Palm OS reliability and ease-of-use, why bother with PPC?
    "That IS a Palm III form-factor in my pocket, AND I'm happy to see you...."
  14.    #34  
    I want to know if there is ANY NETWORK ADAPTER available for a Palm OS PDA.

    This excludes the Handera 330 & the CF Network Card.

    So besides that, where are the network cards?

    The reason being, is that way I can go to school and just plug into the network.
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  15. #35  
    Originally posted by yaz320
    I want to know if there is ANY NETWORK ADAPTER available for a Palm OS PDA.

    This excludes the Handera 330 & the CF Network Card.

    So besides that, where are the network cards?
    Well, there is the TRGpro too.

    Why did you want to exclude the Handera?
  16. #36  
    I bought a Palm because they were way cheaper than any PPCs at the time and the large 3rd party software available I guess. I thought I'd buy springboards--I haven't found any usefull enough for the cost. If I had known that I really didn't need springboard I might not have gotten a VDX (the colors at the time were cool though).
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    #37  
    I got a palm for the same reason- low price. I can't see myself paying $350+ for a PDA. I got a VDX for its expandability. I'm also interested in mp3s, so I got the soundsgood audio player. I was in the market for an mp3 player, but it's more convenient just to combine the two. I haven't gotten any other modules, although I should probably buy the backup module soon. If I was to buy a Palm PDA I'd probably have gone for a Vx since it's so small.
  18. #38  
    Ease of use for Personal Information Management !
  19. #39  
    Originally posted by briker206
    I make my living on fixing windows problems. For me the visor/PalmOS line meets my needs better period.
    [...]
    Should the PalmOS fail to meet my needs down the line I will also reconsider but for now....Don't need the headache.
    Well said -- that's my reasoning in a nutshell. Why don't I get a PPC? Gee, one more Windows machine to take care of.
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