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  1. #21  
    Originally posted by RoofusPennymore
    I think the first PDA they came out with was ahead of it's time. That's why it didn't do so good.
    Right, that's why I don't think they'll do it [again] anytime soon.
  2. #22  
    An Apple PDA will need color, robust resolution, QuickTime, memory, and most importantly, OS X.
    I have to agree with Rob on this one, OSX does not belong on a PDA. PERHAPS the core of the OS, but that's about it.

    Keep in mind that Apple still owns the NewtonOS. I'm guessing they have a reason for holding on to that...whether that be to incorporate technologies into a new PDA OS, or maybe use NewtonOS (an updated version, of course) with a new PDA.

    Apple has been VERY good at keeping new products under wraps these past few years. I'd bet that Job's has been working on a PDA internally for some time now...just waiting for the right moment to push it to market.
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  3. #23  
    Originally posted by homer


    I have to agree with Rob on this one, OSX does not belong on a PDA. PERHAPS the core of the OS, but that's about it.
    Maybe not OSX, but if Apple should go with something other than the PalmOS, they should definately go with some form of the standard MacOS, and the reason is simple - software compatibility. With the PalmOS, they would have thousands of applications ready to install, but if they were to go with the NewtonOS or some other form of proprietary system, they're going to have to come up with applications for it. BUT - going with a form of the basic MacOS would ensure that at least some of the Mac software library (which isn't as limited as people would have the public believe) would be useful on the PDA (with some tweaking, of course)
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    BUT - going with a form of the basic MacOS would ensure that at least some of the Mac software library (which isn't as limited as people would have the public believe) would be useful on the PDA (with some tweaking, of course)
    Some tweaking? No...you'd pretty much have to rewrite most of these applications. You can't just take a Windows application and plop it onto WinCE, for instance.

    Core parts of the code, would work, but you might as well just recompile the code for the other OS, anways.

    In addition, the interface is COMPLETELY different for a desktop app and a handheld app. So, you'd be re-building the entire interface as well.

    I have a feeling that the NewtonOS will resurface eventually, in some form. Apple would have sold this off a long time ago if they didn't want it...they needed money desperately when Jobs came in and they would have jumped at selling off the technology...UNLESS Jobs had other plans for it...which I think he does.
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  5. #25  
    Does the Newton OS include the handwriting recognition? If it does then that alone could be the reason they held onto it.

    I've read other places (pure speculation of course) about putting a scaled down version of OSX on a PDA, and I really liked what I read! There is the possibility that you could run the Palm OS in emulation on the device, while getting developers to support native apps (just incase you weren't drooling enough before **** ). I don't think Apple will go with the Newton OS, if they are to succeed they need to have a strong start.
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    Does the Newton OS include the handwriting recognition? If it does then that alone could be the reason they held onto it.
    The Newton OS was remarkable in many respects...in many ways it is still superior to the Palm OS.

    And, yes, it recognized anyone's handwriting...it would actually learn how to read your own handwriting better over time.
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  7. #27  
    Apple has been developing a new handwriting recognition engine called Rosetta, it was reported by ZDNet a few months ago. This engine builds on the Newton HR, and was developed for OS X and OS 9.
  8. #28  
    Originally posted by homer



    What do you mean, Mensa? Are mac's overpriced? I don't think so. They put a lot more into their machines that your average dell box. Yea, you pay more, you get more.

    As for being oddly configured, not sure what that means.
    Amen to that!!! I own a G3 333 mini-tower...it is now going on 4 years old (if I rememer correctly) and running strong. Running OS 9.0.4, with VPC 4.0, SCSI devices coming out my back side cache, and 224MB of memory. The best part??? I found out that this "old grey box" is selling for up to $800 on eBay with no monitor, keyboard, or anything!!!

    So, to make a long story short...not only do they build more quality in, but their resale is very high too!

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  9. #29  
    I owned every Newton Apple ever released. By the 120 it was pretty good. I took it all over the world and used it instead of a laptop. There was no Palm Pilot in those days...and Newton was the first PDA that used expansion slots...regular PC Card slots. I remember being in Australia...I needed a new modem and I was concerned because I couldn't find a Newton PC card...so a friend of mine threw me his IBM card modem...I slid it in...and it worked perfectly. I didn't have a keyboard for it at that time...so I wrote all my correspondence by hand...and the Newton did a phenominal job of keeping up with me and learning my terrible scrawl. It got a bad wrap because of the first version...but that was because people didn't know it actually learned your handwriting over time. And if it can learn mine...it is the most advanced piece of technology on the market.

    I eventually bought the last Newton...the 2100. It rocked! Over four years ago...it had the StrongARM processor the iPaq uses today (same speed). I had TWO PC card slots...I loved it's green glowing backlight...and it was able to email, fax, recognize handwriting, draw...and tons of other capabilities right out of the box. I even had a LAN card for it. The 2100 had more features than the Palm OS today. It was a little big compared to todays devices...but I still miss it. I waited three years after I sold it before I bought a new handheld...and that was the Visor...because it was the first device that was intelligently expandable.

    BTW...for all you Mac OS junkies out there...in addition to my writing for VC...I'm going to have a new column over on the O'reilly network about Aqua starting this month. Come check it out. I'll try and sneak a shout out to everyone here at VC...in code.
    I saw that everyone else had a signature and I felt left out, so here is mine.
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