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  1.    #1  
    I got news that Verizon will start offering the 24.99 palm user plan for CDPD, only now for the Pocket PCs, this means you can get--for 25 dollors a month-- unlimited CDPD coverage (no free roaming like you would in OS) in a Handheld PC PRo or Ipaq with pc card sleave.


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    Now there is a good deal! Maybe they'll start offering some type of plam with the Minstrel S in the future and Omnisky/YadaYada will lower their rate plans! Wireless access on a PDA shouldn't be more expensive than cable service or even dial-up at home.
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    I am under the impresstion that Verizon offers this plan with the MinstralS already, because I am cirtian that they have plans for the Minstral V and III, it would make sense that they would have this for the springboard.

    Doese anyone have this for their HS or PV/III? Do they supply the modem, or do you have to buy it for yourself?

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  4. #4  
    Originally posted by Celchu19
    I am under the impresstion that Verizon offers this plan with the MinstralS already, because I am cirtian that they have plans for the Minstral V and III, it would make sense that they would have this for the springboard.

    Doese anyone have this for their HS or PV/III? Do they supply the modem, or do you have to buy it for yourself?

    sam
    Hate to tell you this, but I've already spoken with Verizon about this, and they are not (and will not be) offering their Palm CDPD service for Handspring. If the previous post is correct, it would seem that they may be withdrawing their IP service for all Palm devices - possibly because it competes with YadaYada, which uses Verizon's CDPD network?
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    Originally posted by critic


    Hate to tell you this, but I've already spoken with Verizon about this, and they are not (and will not be) offering their Palm CDPD service for Handspring. If the previous post is correct, it would seem that they may be withdrawing their IP service for all Palm devices - possibly because it competes with YadaYada, which uses Verizon's CDPD network?
    YadaYada AND OS both use the verizon network, and I sspect that they get much more money for that than they do with their palm cdpd service. As of my last check, it listed on verizons website that for 25.99 you can get a mobile IP plan for handhelds &palms, I'd check again about the handspring, but I know that they alredy cover the P5 (which YY and OS also cover)

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  6. #6  
    Incorrect!

    Just got off the phone with Verizon Data (800-308-DATA)and they do offer CDPD service for the Visor.

    The Minstrel S is $244 and service is $24.95/month unlimited. One year contract required.



    Originally posted by critic


    Hate to tell you this, but I've already spoken with Verizon about this, and they are not (and will not be) offering their Palm CDPD service for Handspring. If the previous post is correct, it would seem that they may be withdrawing their IP service for all Palm devices - possibly because it competes with YadaYada, which uses Verizon's CDPD network?
  7. #7  
    Originally posted by mikegold
    Incorrect!

    Just got off the phone with Verizon Data (800-308-DATA)and they do offer CDPD service for the Visor.

    The Minstrel S is $244 and service is $24.95/month unlimited. One year contract required.
    Two possible reasons why your info differs from mine:

    1) My info is two months old, and Verizon may have decided to add support for Visor since then.

    2) Support for Visor may vary from one Verizon territory to another. When I was at my local Verizon shop last month, they still told me Visor wasn't supported.

    The way I see it, it's moot anyway. Why spend all that money when for $35 + $6 a month, you can get nearly the same throughput from a data-capable phone and cable? Plus, when CDMA will be capable of 144kps inside of a year, it seems like the better deal.
  8.    #8  
    Originally posted by critic
    The way I see it, it's moot anyway. Why spend all that money when for $35 + $6 a month, you can get nearly the same throughput from a data-capable phone and cable? Plus, when CDMA will be capable of 144kps inside of a year, it seems like the better deal.
    Well, CDPD is compleatly unlimited as far as air time goes; can you say that about your cell phone? Can you use your Cell Pone with cable and use your stowaway at the same time?
    Now here is a point where the two services tie, but I'll mention it anyway: Your cellphone most likely won't work on the CDMA2000 network (2.5G/3G) which will mean that you'll have to get new equiptment when the new network becomes aviable. It seems to me like you are paying more right now for less; and I'd almost bet you that when the faster service comes out your bill will increase. oh and BTW what in the hell are you going to do with 144 kps on your visor. (now if you have a PPC, then I can see a use for the bandwith,)

    Now you'll have to do the same with CDPD, upgrading to something along the lines of Richochet (when 2.5 and 3 G come out the floor will fall out of the bottom of thoes prices, and I suspect that you will be able to get richochet for about 25 dollors amonth; now you will have to buy a new modem, but who cares: I can get the Merlin for CDPD from verizon for 150 USD, equiptment is cheep.
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  9. #9  
    Originally posted by Celchu19


    Well, CDPD is compleatly unlimited as far as air time goes; can you say that about your cell phone?
    Well, considering I would just be using it for e-mail and casual web browsing, and not as a desktop replacement, I'd say for now it would do. Also, I don't have to literally pay double what I'm paying now to use it.

    Can you use your Cell Pone with cable and use your stowaway at the same time?
    I'm not planning on writing the Great American Novel over the internet. I think I can tolerate scratching out a quick e-mail in Graphiti.

    Now here is a point where the two services tie, but I'll mention it anyway: Your cellphone most likely won't work on the CDMA2000 network (2.5G/3G) which will mean that you'll have to get new equiptment when the new network becomes aviable. It seems to me like you are paying more right now for less; and I'd almost bet you that when the faster service comes out your bill will increase.
    Maybe not, but most users upgrade their phones every couple of years anyway (at least, that's what the industry tells us.) So when 3G goes online, if my StarTac can't handle it, I'll be able to get something that can, if something better doesn't come along first.

    And tell me - you don't think that if they were to find a way to pump 1Mbps through CDPD, it wouldn't cost $75/month instead of $25?

    oh and BTW what in the hell are you going to do with 144 kps on your visor. (now if you have a PPC, then I can see a use for the bandwith,)
    Well, the same things I would use it for at home, I imagine. But since we're moving into speculative PalmOS 5/ARM Processor territory, I'll move on.

    Now you'll have to do the same with CDPD, upgrading to something along the lines of Richochet (when 2.5 and 3 G come out the floor will fall out of the bottom of thoes prices, and I suspect that you will be able to get richochet for about 25 dollors amonth; now you will have to buy a new modem, but who cares: I can get the Merlin for CDPD from verizon for 150 USD, equiptment is cheep.
    You have a funny idea of how the industry works. Think about how long it took for wireless phones and service to become as inexpensive as it is. The "floor doesn't fall out" that quickly. And "equiptment" isn't really that cheap, if you're on a budget. A cell phone every few years you can spring for - it's nearly a necessity. But with so many ways to get online, it's hard to justify the extra expense of constantly upgrading wireless data equipment and service.
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    The one manin thing that turned me away from Verizon was that all that reps I spoke to said there was no way for you to tell if you were on Verizon's network or AT&T's, in which case you would be roaming and therefore be paying the extra fees. Add to that the relative high cost of the modem (no rebate/discount) and it just wasn't worth it for me.

    Marty
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    Originally posted by mmendo1
    The one manin thing that turned me away from Verizon was that all that reps I spoke to said there was no way for you to tell if you were on Verizon's network or AT&T's, in which case you would be roaming and therefore be paying the extra fees. Add to that the relative high cost of the modem (no rebate/discount) and it just wasn't worth it for me.

    Marty
    Yes, but you know what area's are in verizon's network and what area's are in ATT's network and you'd be fine. (IE don't use it on the west cost because that's all ATT teratory, but st. louis and Northern Illinois are both verizon area.

    I don't know abot the palm modems, but I know that you can get the Merlin for CDPD for 150 wich is about half of what it lists for....

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    Well, I really don't want to have to sit down and look at a map and/or always worry about my physical location (especially since I travel). Much in the same way you believe changing the antenna for the Minstrel S from the stub to the Samsung is a rather large drawback, I believe Verizon's lack of a roaming indicator is equally as bad (if not more...just my opinion). Plus, for an extra $5/month, you can go with OS and not worry about it...not to mention the modem for Verizon lists for $244 and its free right now with OS.

    Marty
  13.    #13  
    for a mobile visor user S is a better option, however for an iPAQerI have no need to pay 50 or 60 dollars amonth for something I can get for 25....

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    I wish I had CDPD here (Not that my local Verizon rep originally lied to me & said they did or anything... )

    Critic is right in that we won't see the full bandwidth promised, once you get a bunch of phones/modems all going at once the bandwidth drops a lot, kinda like cable modems. There will be some times (Off peak hours) where you'll get close to the full bandwidth but most of the time don't expect it, expect speeds arounf 56k.

    If they offered wireless access at 144k for $25 a month I'd replace my dial-up with it
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