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  1. #21  
    The theory: Make it thin, er... "slim", don't put an antenna, and
    everybody will go ga-ga over it.

    Never mind that it looks like sombody stomped on it to make it flat.

    I think Nokia made a big mistake by not putting-in a camera, that's
    another thing people can complain about all the time.

    Despite not liking it, It think it has two redeeming features: WLAN
    & the GREAT charging connector.
  2. #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Remember that N-Gage they tried to shovel out a few years back? A ping pong paddle looks better than holding a taco to your ear.
    Every time I think of nokia R&D, I get this image of the Keebler magic tree in my head:

    http://www.keebler.com/promotions/magicbythemillion/
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
    If it works for you, it is "P"erfect.
  3. #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by dstrauss
    I don't know - I have real trouble with a device that takes two hands just to hold it, and looks like a ping pong paddle next to your head.
    You'd think with a device that wide there'd be room for a proper 5-way navigator too.

    Specs are great though and the screen looks really nice:

  4. #24  
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenHex
    The theory: Make it thin, er... "slim", don't put an antenna, and
    everybody will go ga-ga over it.

    Never mind that it looks like sombody stomped on it to make it flat.

    I think Nokia made a big mistake by not putting-in a camera, that's
    another thing people can complain about all the time.

    Despite not liking it, It think it has two redeeming features: WLAN
    & the GREAT charging connector.
    Not sure leaving out a camera is a "mistake" - many business users can do without one (some are even prevented from having them on their phones for security reasons), and they offer plenty of other phones that include a camera.

    Given the feature set, it's pretty clear that they have a specific target market in mind with the e61, and I think they hit it right on the head.
  5. #25  
    I think that phone is going to be a big hit! should make for a great business phone, much better that a blackberry and less problematic that a POS.

    The browser on that thing is fast, it has WiFi, and push email. Verichat works on it and who knows what else will be availble if not now in the near future.

    probably handles bluetooth well, so you will not even need to pull it put of you pocket, purse or briefcase half the time.
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  6. #26  
    Hey, I picked up an N-Gage QD a few months back for $99 as a Cingular pre-paid phone. I mainly got it so that I could get some hands-on experience with S60. I powered it up again today to play with it some more. There's actually a lot to like about it and the size is about the same as my Treo.

    As far as these new phones are concerned, I think I'm more interested in the E70. The screen is physically smaller, but higher in resolution. Plus it's got a camera which, hopefully by the time it gets released, will be one of the newer better quality cameras Nokia's starting to use. And when you fold out the keyboard, it will be bigger and comfier to type on.
    Now THIS is the future of smartphones.
  7. #27  
    The new E series phones by nokia are going to be extremely popular .
    I am dying to get my hands on E61 .
    Nokia 's are great phones.
    I will end up ordering soon . Should be with me in 1-2 weeks .
    I am excited about change in the screen size, better bluetooth phone, nice keyboard etc.
    Treo's days are numbered."Some unknown device will kill it soon ".
  8. #28  
    Agree with Scott. I for sure will switch to E70. It should be out by the end of the month.
  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R
    Hey, I picked up an N-Gage QD a few months back for $99 as a Cingular pre-paid phone. I mainly got it so that I could get some hands-on experience with S60. I powered it up again today to play with it some more. There's actually a lot to like about it and the size is about the same as my Treo.

    As far as these new phones are concerned, I think I'm more interested in the E70. The screen is physically smaller, but higher in resolution. Plus it's got a camera which, hopefully by the time it gets released, will be one of the newer better quality cameras Nokia's starting to use. And when you fold out the keyboard, it will be bigger and comfier to type on.
    How does the thickness compare on the E70 to a Treo?
    Remember, the "P" in PDA stands for personal.
    If it works for you, it is "P"erfect.
  10. #30  
    2.1 inch( E70) vs (2.3 inch) Treo .
    Here is a link for comparison .
    http://reviews.cnet.com/Nokia_E70/45...1556319-4.html
    Treo's days are numbered."Some unknown device will kill it soon ".
  11. #31  
    Thanks for the reminder about the e70, Scott. Not sure why I left that off my shortlist. Nice features, nice look.
  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenHex
    The theory: Make it thin, er... "slim", don't put an antenna, and
    everybody will go ga-ga over it.

    Never mind that it looks like sombody stomped on it to make it flat.

    I think Nokia made a big mistake by not putting-in a camera, that's
    another thing people can complain about all the time.

    Despite not liking it, It think it has two redeeming features: WLAN
    & the GREAT charging connector.
    i think nokia targeting the business peoples CEO's, remember most companies they donít allow camera phone on their premises.
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  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by ninodelsol
    Thanks for the reminder about the e70, Scott. Not sure why I left that off my shortlist...
    Now I remember why: The e70 is triband 900-1800-1900, so without the 850 band it's less than optimal for the U.S. (though still attractive! Hmmm...)
  14. #34  
    Quote Originally Posted by ninodelsol
    Now I remember why: The e70 is triband 900-1800-1900, so without the 850 band it's less than optimal for the U.S. (though still attractive! Hmmm...)
    According to phonescoop.com the E70 is triband but does have both the 850 and 1900 US bands. It is missing the 900 band for Europe.

    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/com...%5D=&id%5B%5D=
  15. #35  
    The one thing that really bothers me about the E61 is the fact that it uses the 2100 band for WCDMA so it will not work with Cingular's UMTS network which is on the 1900 MhZ band.
  16. #36  
    I can't wait for it to arrive too. I am tired of the ever present threat of memory corruption and resets. With Wi-Fi and 5 simutaneous Bluetooth devices? I am happy to trade WCDMA2100 for those. And if T-Mobile really is going to WCDMA2100 for their 3G network, I'll make the jump from Cingular too.
  17. #37  
    No wireless carrier in the US can currently use the WCDMA 2100 band bc it is used for military purposes. However, the FCC is trying to move the military over to a new band so that European phones will be compatible in the US. IF that happens you can expect both T-Mobile and Cingular to move their 3G networks to that band. If not, don't expect either of them to.
  18. #38  
    I read about the move of spectrum couple of years ago and so I wasn't that happy last year when Cingular started rolling out WCDMA1900 and not wait for FCC spectrum auction, as mentioned in post #5.

    Oh well, by the time WCDMA is properly rolled out I'll be using some other phone anyway.
  19. #39  
    Quote Originally Posted by jwein84
    According to phonescoop.com the E70 is triband but does have both the 850 and 1900 US bands. It is missing the 900 band for Europe.

    http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/com...%5D=&id%5B%5D=
    Interesting. On Nokia's site, the only mentions of the e70 are on their European and Asian sites:

    http://www.europe.nokia.com/nokia/0,,81005,00.html

    http://nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,83855,00.html

    Couldn't find it within the U.S. site, where they've announced it already (http://www.nokiausa.com/about/newsro...6,3525,00.html), but it's not even on their "coming soon" pages (http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/expectedsoon).

    So it looks like they'll have that U.S. version you mentioned, but not for some time after that European version is launched.

    If I can convince myself to wait, I think it will be well worth it.
  20. #40  
    Quote Originally Posted by jwein84
    No wireless carrier in the US can currently use the WCDMA 2100 band bc it is used for military purposes. However, the FCC is trying to move the military over to a new band so that European phones will be compatible in the US. IF that happens you can expect both T-Mobile and Cingular to move their 3G networks to that band. If not, don't expect either of them to.
    The U.S. 2100 auction, open to the mobile carriers, is set for June 29 so looks like the decision has already been made by the FCC. I'm just hoping that T-Mobile makes the power-move (I think they will):

    http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/CA6321115.html

    http://www.mobiletracker.net/archive...ectrum-auction
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