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    I just scored a 7130e and it is an amazing device. I've gone the Treo route, then 7100T and now this device.

    I've been able to download a fair number of apps for the BB so I don't think that the assumption that the BB can't be extended are correct. You can even Telnet from a BB http://www.idokorro.com/ (the first of many sites pulled up with a quick google/telnet search). Audio and video streaming is really where the BB falls short.

    I can't wait until the next time I'm on a 2 hour ground stop sitting next to a proud 650 owner while I'm streaming TiVo at 500 Kbps via Slingbox using my tethered EVDO BB connection, while VPN'd to the office working away on my laptop as they show off their 2" video screen with video that made it to the Treo through a cumbersome conversion process and multiple applications that likely had to be purchased. Actually, I can wait as ground stops suck no matter what technology you bring.

    The blackberry browser rocks on EVDO!!

    Most of use really only use e-mail,contacts,calander,txt mess & some surfing all in which the bb 7130e
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    I just don't get it. Why do people who don't like treos actually come to a palm treo site and try to convince us BB or other devices are better?

    It just doesn't make sense to me.

    BTW . . . I have 3 650's in my fam. no reset problems, nothing but pleased with them (each over 1yr old).
  3. #23  
    You BB lovers might be laughing out of the other side of your face if RIM doesn't get it's legal act together!

    And the 7130e is really ugly IMO!!
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  4. #24  
    Not only is the 7130e ugly but the screen is smaller and it has only half the features of the treo. Guess the treo is just too much phone for some people to handle
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by craigdts
    I just don't get it. Why do people who don't like treos actually come to a palm treo site and try to convince us BB or other devices are better?

    It just doesn't make sense to me.

    BTW . . . I have 3 650's in my fam. no reset problems, nothing but pleased with them (each over 1yr old).
    You'll see that I've been part of these forums for a while going back to the Treo 300 days. I've shelled out a ton of money on the Treo product, had several Treos die while on business trips, not be able to sync mail with work like I need, dealt with terrible phone sound quality, etc.

    In a way, based on my experience with the Treo product, I feel like it is my duty to help inform others that there is a magic life beyond Treo. One where business function, ease of use, quality, dependability, lightening fast speed at a reasonable price are available today.
  6.    #26  
    I was looking forward to the plethora of diverse opinions from this post and I have to say I'm not dissapointed. I actually currently own the Treo 650 and I will be ditching it very soon for a device that isnt so trend oriented. I'm going deep here for a sec so stay with me,K. I'ts funny if you think of it,ask your self what do I really need? our society has fed us so much crap that we need as a country we have swallowed it hook,line and sinker and we are sinking quickly. From the time you exit college we think we deserve that 60K-80K job,then we need the BMW M5 to match our job,a 1/2 mill house,find a trophy wife to match all our other STUFF have kids and teach them that STUFF is important NOT the things that really matter,honesty,values,principles,faith and genuine care for others not putting ourselves first. In my day we worked for what we deserved not thinking we deserve what we havent earned.Think of this,what if we turned off the radio,our 65" big screens & lose Broadband... What would there be to influence our decisions? We would live I'm sure a more simple life. Do you think me being connected to the office 24/7 impresses my wife or your significant other? No way dude,believe me she wants to slap that silly thing right out of your hand and kick your @$$ for not paying attention to her or the family. So by now your thinking holy crap this guys off his meds...... No not really I just get what society has done to us all. The question is which animal are you going to feed? Dont take me wrong I love tecnology but Treo is just a symptom of way deeper issues.

    Do we really need to be entertained 24/7 with such devices,tv,games,office on the go. I urge everyone to watch " Thunderheart' Val Kilmer and Sam Shepard. It may seen a bit cheesy but hang in there and watch the whole show and you will start to understand what I'm saying. We all need to drop our Treo's and listen to the wind hoss!!!

    Peace,love and happiness even for Treo lovers
  7. #27  
    Well I can live without a 65" TV. But I need radio for music(relaxation), and some type of internet connection for work, or I'd be screwed royally.

    Interesting perspective, nonetheless.
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vroomdvroom
    I was looking forward to the plethora of diverse opinions from this post and I have to say I'm not dissapointed. I actually currently own the Treo 650 and I will be ditching it very soon for a device that isnt so trend oriented. I'm going deep here for a sec so stay with me,K. I'ts funny if you think of it,ask your self what do I really need? our society has fed us so much crap that we need as a country we have swallowed it hook,line and sinker and we are sinking quickly. From the time you exit college we think we deserve that 60K-80K job,then we need the BMW M5 to match our job,a 1/2 mill house,find a trophy wife to match all our other STUFF have kids and teach them that STUFF is important NOT the things that really matter,honesty,values,principles,faith and genuine care for others not putting ourselves first. In my day we worked for what we deserved not thinking we deserve what we havent earned.Think of this,what if we turned off the radio,our 65" big screens & lose Broadband... What would there be to influence our decisions? We would live I'm sure a more simple life. Do you think me being connected to the office 24/7 impresses my wife or your significant other? No way dude,believe me she wants to slap that silly thing right out of your hand and kick your @$$ for not paying attention to her or the family. So by now your thinking holy crap this guys off his meds...... No not really I just get what society has done to us all. The question is which animal are you going to feed? Dont take me wrong I love tecnology but Treo is just a symptom of way deeper issues.

    Do we really need to be entertained 24/7 with such devices,tv,games,office on the go. I urge everyone to watch " Thunderheart' Val Kilmer and Sam Shepard. It may seen a bit cheesy but hang in there and watch the whole show and you will start to understand what I'm saying. We all need to drop our Treo's and listen to the wind hoss!!!

    Peace,love and happiness even for Treo lovers
    Wow... at first you had me going until you lost track of your diatribe. Now there are a fair number of people here think I hate Palm and the Treo 650 so don't think that I'm another Tree 650 hugger. I couldn't disagree with you more on many things you said.

    Regarding the Fight Club mentatlity that is prevalent within modern day society, I couldn't agree more. I despise what Hollywood-America-Internet culture has done to people. We are blasted with advertisement to buy and a message telling us that we need all of it. If you don't have significant "financial stability" in this world then you're as worthless and disposable as everything else our society produces. Getting out of the city and moving to some farmland somewhere in middle America seems like a better idea all the time with the few decades I may have left.

    That said, while I'm living in the city or going from place to place, there are many redeeming things I and other people do with their PDAs, Palm or WM that you discount completely and have nothing to do with that revolting materialism that dominates our exploitative and socially irresponsible culture. I use mine to read books or listen to music as my MP3 player while traveling and many do the same. Maps including for the subway -- a great help. The language dictionaries I have in there are wonderful to carry with me. Having a task outliner was a fantastic organizer of the many things I want to do, business and as a progressive human being with a great deal of intellectual curiosity. I don't use it for Zagat's restaurant guide and the like but I cannot tell you how many city people use it for that too.

    Now all that talk about how we don't need things might be true but this is the world we live in. Unless you are ready to change your geography and move your family away from this hellish society you're better off making the best of it and equipping yourself with tools that will allow you to spend more time with your loved ones. A good all in one device can be such a tool. You don't need a fancy car when a reasonable good mid-priced one will do and perhaps you're better off keeping the Treo for the aforementioned reason.

    'nuff said. With all this philosophizing so close to the holiday season I'm bound to jettison out of the city and move myself... Happy Holidays to all.

    PS - I saw Thunderheart. Interesting film (and total cheese) and one of many that make the point. Question yourself why you are still where you are...
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    Funny when I travel, and I do not travel that often,but when I did all this year, the PDA phone that I saw the most is the Treo. I have been to Denver, Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago. Seems to me that the Treo is the most popular PDA for business people. God Bless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vroomdvroom
    I was looking forward to the plethora of diverse opinions from this post and I have to say I'm not dissapointed. I actually currently own the Treo 650 and I will be ditching it very soon for a device that isnt so trend oriented. I'm going deep here for a sec so stay with me,K. I'ts funny if you think of it,ask your self what do I really need? our society has fed us so much crap that we need as a country we have swallowed it hook,line and sinker and we are sinking quickly. From the time you exit college we think we deserve that 60K-80K job,then we need the BMW M5 to match our job,a 1/2 mill house,find a trophy wife to match all our other STUFF have kids and teach them that STUFF is important NOT the things that really matter,honesty,values,principles,faith and genuine care for others not putting ourselves first. In my day we worked for what we deserved not thinking we deserve what we havent earned.Think of this,what if we turned off the radio,our 65" big screens & lose Broadband... What would there be to influence our decisions? We would live I'm sure a more simple life. Do you think me being connected to the office 24/7 impresses my wife or your significant other? No way dude,believe me she wants to slap that silly thing right out of your hand and kick your @$$ for not paying attention to her or the family. So by now your thinking holy crap this guys off his meds...... No not really I just get what society has done to us all. The question is which animal are you going to feed? Dont take me wrong I love tecnology but Treo is just a symptom of way deeper issues.

    Do we really need to be entertained 24/7 with such devices,tv,games,office on the go. I urge everyone to watch " Thunderheart' Val Kilmer and Sam Shepard. It may seen a bit cheesy but hang in there and watch the whole show and you will start to understand what I'm saying. We all need to drop our Treo's and listen to the wind hoss!!!

    Peace,love and happiness even for Treo lovers
    Wow, was that the Cliff's Notes version of "The Razor's Edge?"
  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by jdeluna
    Funny when I travel, and I do not travel that often,but when I did all this year, the PDA phone that I saw the most is the Treo. I have been to Denver, Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago. Seems to me that the Treo is the most popular PDA for business people. God Bless.
    I travel a ton and see 2 or 3 BlackBerries for every Treo.
  12. #32  
    Quote Originally Posted by camartin
    I travel a ton and see 2 or 3 BlackBerries for every Treo.

    7I second that. Blackberries totally out-sell Treo's. BB appeals to the Business profession who wants to get the job done, while the Treo appeals to the early adopter and the Tech savoury.

    He has a good point, must treo users are wasting the full potential of their device, and purchase it mainly on the bias of it’s the newest greatest thing out. A lot of people on this board where eager to get the new Treo 650 before they even knew it’s track record “solely because it was the new treo”.

    The Treo has gone from a Business class device to a consumer device. Ever since they changed it’s title from Palm handheld with Voice and Data function, to a Smart Phone. The treo used to be a reliable solution for business professional who need “RELIABLE” access to there data, and “RELIABLE” functionality. Now the treo is a new multimedia Smart phone that appeal to consumer who is more suede by name brand, and status quoi. Now the Treo problems, unreliably, deficiencies are accepted.

    No professional has time to buy a device, then constantly read a web forum on how to get the true functionality he needs out of it. Everything he/she needs should come standard if he is buying the device from
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  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by vroomdvroom
    Treo for most people is over kill and DO NOT add apps or use any other function other than e-mail,txt mess and phone. Have you ever even use Documents to GO?..... I doubt it...My guess is you couldnt tell me without looking what applications are on your Treo cause we dont use them...this is the point here. JUST BEING HONEST
    I use Docs To Go most days. The spreadsheet allows me to give a complex quote to clients on the go ... exactly what it was meant for. No need to lug the notebook much any more. I only buy the apps I need, exactly as I do for my Windows notebook. What could be more simple?

    Seasons greetings from Downunder.
  14.    #34  
    WOW DAWGGGGG. Isnt it funny when moderators start deleting your stuff cause all your doing is telling the truth.............Funny thingis they know it and God knows we wouldnt wantto slow salesof the Treo.....



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  15. #35  
    VROOM: you joined TC for this?
    Welcome anyway, but from one BB professional user to another:
    I've had the 7100t for 9 months now. It is a great email and SMS device, it is remarkably stable -even more stable than any phone-only device I've owned, and the 7100 line has absolutely the best ratio of functionality to ounce/gram in the industry. It is also a good buy if you can get it for $199 or less without a contract. BUT, that's it. Unless these three or four factors are primary for you AND others are unimportant, the BB 7100 series does not compare to the Treo or many other integrated devices out there.

    The other good reason to get a 7100 right now is if you're with T-Mobile, in which case, you have hardly anything else to buy. Although, mercifully, it is the only place you can shop for -either- a Juicy Couture or a Mister Cartoon Sidekick.

    That's my honest opinion...
    You may be right; I may be crazy. But, the Treo may be just the device I've been looking for.
  16. #36  
    vroomdroom wrote: '...60K-80K job,then we need the BMW M5 to match our job,a 1/2 mill house,'

    How the heck do you afford a BMW M5 OR a 1/2 mill house on 60-80k?
  17. #37  
    Overextension of good credit brings in lots of goodies. Why do you think so many are in bankruptcy? I had someone tell me as long as you have A-1 credit, you can buy lots of toys and they sometmes overlook your actual income! Vroom might have been exaggerrating about what you can really afford on 60-80K, but in terms of people living beyond their means, he's spot on!
    HP has officially ruined it's own platform and kicked webOS loyalists and early TouchPad adopters to the curb. You think after you drop it like a hot potato and mention it made no money and is costing you money, anyone else wants it??? Way to go HP!!

    And some people are fools to keep believing their hype. HP has shown they will throw webOS under the bus and people are still having faith in them??? News flash: if it's own company won't stand behind it, it's finished!
  18. #38  
    I have had a 7290, a 7100 and the latest and greatest 8700 BB's and I can tell you in every instance the Treo kicks their but. the only one that even comes close is the 8700 and I ended up sending it back because of issues with phone clarity and the bluetooth crackling. I am not an "upber" user like some of the folks on this forum that push the Treo until it is about to burst at the seams....however, for the tings I need like an organizer, e-mail and Internet the Treo IMO is currently at the top of the food chain for an all around device. If you are only talking about e-mail then the BB is the clear winner.
  19. #39  
    Tx...based on the items you listed I would put the 7130e at the top of the food chain.evdo and blackberry make a great combination of pim, phone and web. Web sites load almost as quickly as my laptop connected to my home network with comcast high speed.
  20. #40  
    On a daily basis I use Tom Tom Navigator, reverse 411 lookups (and subsequent additions to contacts or maps) via Express, and the MP3 player at the gym (why tote two devices). This is all is addition to the email and PIM apps that the Blackberry shares.

    Within I week, I use the following at least a couple of times:
    Nintento Emulator- ya, I get bored
    MobiTV- ya, I get really bored
    Mobile TS- remoteing in to servers
    Mergic Ping- Network diagnosis
    Diet and Excercise assistant
    animated weather radar
    Docs to Go (usually the PDF viewer when checking mail)

    That's just me. I tend to think of my Treo as a replacement for my laptop rather than a phone.

    As for others who under-utilize it -hey, that's their choice, but I know why I don't tote a BB. Convergence and a diverse application base. I'm not into the Bat-utility belt thing to do my job. Gimme one device to do it all when mobile.

    My laptop stays home most of the time. As I start to warm up to the new CRM software I've put in place at my company, they didn't include a Blackberry app, but they did include a Palm app.

    I think the reality of the matter is that many folks just don't understand what can be done on these machines. I can't tell you how many suits I see in the airport with the Blackberry in their hand and the notebook on the lap. Kinda defeats the purpose.
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