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Old 08/21/2013, 04:23 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Apps fuel a Smartphone.

If you just want to phone and text, you don't need a smartphone. The age-old nokias of the late 90s could even do calender and some rudimentary PIM.

I stick to it: it's the apps that fuel a smartphone, like petrol fuels cars.
If you don't need apps, you don't need a smartphone and can go for something cheap.
If you don't want to use fuel you can switch to a bicycle and drive much cheaper (albeit not that far).

Easy enough to understand?
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Old 08/21/2013, 05:22 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Apps fuel a Smartphone.

If you just want to phone and text, you don't need a smartphone. The age-old nokias of the late 90s could even do calender and some rudimentary PIM.

I stick to it: it's the apps that fuel a smartphone, like petrol fuels cars.
If you don't need apps, you don't need a smartphone and can go for something cheap.
If you don't want to use fuel you can switch to a bicycle and drive much cheaper (albeit not that far).

Easy enough to understand?
Can you drive a car without fuel? Nope
Can you use a webOS phone without apps? Yep

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Old 08/21/2013, 05:37 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Apps fuel a Smartphone.

If you just want to phone and text, you don't need a smartphone. The age-old nokias of the late 90s could even do calender and some rudimentary PIM.

I stick to it: it's the apps that fuel a smartphone, like petrol fuels cars.
If you don't need apps, you don't need a smartphone and can go for something cheap.
If you don't want to use fuel you can switch to a bicycle and drive much cheaper (albeit not that far).

Easy enough to understand?
Car and phone analogy don't work.
Car-->fuel phone-->battery :O not apps

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Old 08/21/2013, 11:57 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Yes, but then that's less memory for user programs to use or the OS to use for caching
Not really. The current AmigaOS 4.x uses swap, just like other modern OS's. Plus the Ramdisk only grows when you put stuff in it.
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Old 08/23/2013, 02:55 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Car and phone analogy don't work.
Car-->fuel phone-->battery :O not apps

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If you can't transpose in an analogy, I won't be able to explain this to you.

But whatever, even so your analogy is wrong a well. According to your very tight logic, the right comparison would be
Car -> Battery, Phone->Battery
Car -> Fuel, Phone -> Charger

But this is in a very thight and unflexible way of thinking, where modelling is not part of thinking.
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Old 08/23/2013, 04:28 AM   #46 (permalink)
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If you can't transpose in an analogy, I won't be able to explain this to you.

But whatever, even so your analogy is wrong a well. According to your very tight logic, the right comparison would be
Car -> Battery, Phone->Battery
Car -> Fuel, Phone -> Charger

But this is in a very thight and unflexible way of thinking, where modelling is not part of thinking.
If a phone is a car, apps are roads...

You can have a fast car, but if the speed limits and access to roads is not favorable, you are less likely to enjoy the car's full potential...
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Old 08/23/2013, 12:21 PM   #47 (permalink)
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If a phone is a car, apps are roads...

You can have a fast car, but if the speed limits and access to roads is not favorable, you are less likely to enjoy the car's full potential...
Ding, Ding, Ding...

Hold all future entries. We have a winner!!!!!
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Old 08/23/2013, 01:22 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Of you can just break the speed limit (in webOS' case overclocking)
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Old 08/23/2013, 03:34 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I've already moved on. The question for me now is: time to move back (again)? I switched to a Galaxy Note 2 and switched back to my Pre3. Broke my Pre3 so had to go back to the Android. Now I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on another Pre3 purchase.
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Old 08/23/2013, 06:54 PM   #50 (permalink)
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ive moved on for better or worst. i bought a blackberry q10. i drop by here every now and then and i noticed that the fron page hasnt really changed much for like the last several months with no updates. i wonder how much longer it will be around.
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Old 08/23/2013, 07:52 PM   #51 (permalink)
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webos ports is moving steadily forward with openwebOS using an android kernel
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Old 08/23/2013, 09:20 PM   #52 (permalink)
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ive moved on for better or worst. i bought a blackberry q10. i drop by here every now and then and i noticed that the fron page hasnt really changed much for like the last several months with no updates. i wonder how much longer it will be around.
I considered BB10, but I'm afraid they may be headed down the same path as Palm. I hope not.
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Old 08/24/2013, 04:35 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I considered BB10, but I'm afraid they may be headed down the same path as Palm. I hope not.
I considered BB10, as well, but it's pretty obvious where they are heading...
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Old 08/24/2013, 08:03 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Apps fuel a Smartphone.

If you just want to phone and text, you don't need a smartphone. The age-old nokias of the late 90s could even do calender and some rudimentary PIM.

I stick to it: it's the apps that fuel a smartphone, like petrol fuels cars.
If you don't need apps, you don't need a smartphone and can go for something cheap.
If you don't want to use fuel you can switch to a bicycle and drive much cheaper (albeit not that far).

Easy enough to understand?
You could say that, but I don't know if email, decent web browsing, ease-of-use (don't like the UX on dumbphones) don't really stack up IMHO/in my experience.
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Old 08/24/2013, 09:31 AM   #55 (permalink)
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People free to move on to something bigger, newer, faster if they like. But to me it's what does the things I do the most the best, and for me thats a webos phone.
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Old 08/24/2013, 11:55 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Apps fuel a Smartphone.

If you just want to phone and text, you don't need a smartphone. The age-old nokias of the late 90s could even do calender and some rudimentary PIM.

I stick to it: it's the apps that fuel a smartphone, like petrol fuels cars.
If you don't need apps, you don't need a smartphone and can go for something cheap.
If you don't want to use fuel you can switch to a bicycle and drive much cheaper (albeit not that far).

Easy enough to understand?
luckily for cars there is more than 1 type of fuel, petrol, diesel, electric, hydrogen, etc etc etc, soem of those fuels are more abundant than others, but hey as long as you have "enough" fuel to keep you going then all those cars still get you from A to B well enough.

btw irl im a diesel car kinda person and apps wise, i have enough of what i need on webOS. I still have access to the other apps but i just dont really need many of them beyond 1-2 which are typically for entertainment rather than typical "phone" stuff.

lots of interesting analogy's flying around here.
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I considered BB10, as well, but it's pretty obvious where they are heading...
Don't go that way. Everyone has high hopes for BB (unlike webOS after the Pre-/Pre+).
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Old 08/25/2013, 09:14 AM   #58 (permalink)
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If you can't transpose in an analogy, I won't be able to explain this to you.

But whatever, even so your analogy is wrong a well. According to your very tight logic, the right comparison would be
Car -> Battery, Phone->Battery
Car -> Fuel, Phone -> Charger

But this is in a very thight and unflexible way of thinking, where modelling is not part of thinking.
Car -> Fuel, Phone->Battery
Car -> Gasstation, Phone -> Charger

You don't need a battery to drive a car, unless you have an EV
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Old 08/25/2013, 09:20 AM   #59 (permalink)
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If a phone is a car, apps are roads...

You can have a fast car, but if the speed limits and access to roads is not favorable, you are less likely to enjoy the car's full potential...
This analogy is better.
So if you have android apps on existing webos devices, you still have old and laggy hardware.

Car analogy: You have great roads, but stuck with a old lame car.

So i would prefer an great car, maybe a suv so i can drive where are no roads

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I considered BB10, but I'm afraid they may be headed down the same path as Palm. I hope not.
I bought a Playbook this spring, in hope of an update to bb10. But now there never will be an update. So in my opinion bb is the same as HP. They are no reliable partner. Now i use a nexus4, and my hopes are on webos-ports and jolla.

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