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Old 05/28/2013, 05:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So apparently LG doesn't want to bet its future on one company (Google) and is in the process of moving away from Android. And they aren't interested in webOS, but in FirefoxOS and Ubuntu phone instead.

Who was the best suitor for Palm? HTC.

LG not working on a new Nexus device, teases tablet and non-Android smartphone (update) | The Verge
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Old 05/28/2013, 05:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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They aren't even interested in WP8, which is fine. But they are interested in OSes inferior and less relevant than webOS like FirefoxOS.
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Old 05/28/2013, 06:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Discussed here. The phone division may be separate from the tv division (apparently the LG tv division makes it own chip). The phone division may want to jump on someone else's train. Still, the news that they want to move away from android is interesting; the fact that they own webOS is good and are developing it is good also. I hope Phoenix succeeds in porting the newest version of android on ACL to webOS.

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Old 05/28/2013, 06:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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... But they are interested in OSes inferior and less relevant than webOS like FirefoxOS.
Erm ...

Firefox OS has providers, hardware, etc ...
WebOS has nothing.

What makes you think WebOS as a platform with a looser image from the past and no forseeable future is more relevant?

And I won't even start about Ubuntu...
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Old 05/28/2013, 07:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Since we want to do using smartphones based on another mobile OS. Meaning" It is still unclear to what system exactly is and is not known when the first of these devices have to come on the market. However, Kim denied that the purchased LG WebOS will use for its mobile phones. It would also not be a proprietary system developed by LG, said Kim. Probably it is a Firefox phone, as previously already came out.
LG gaat telefoons uitbrengen op basis van een derde platform - Nieuwsbericht - All About Phones

I should say that the above is from the source article and translated. It's a bit clearer since it actually mentions webOS.

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Old 05/28/2013, 08:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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any news of LG doing anything with any phone/tablet OS unfortunatly now has little to nothing to do with webOS, webOS is an asset their TV division aquired for their televisions and not the mobile market, their mobile and tv divisions will likely be totally seperate entities.

This should be no surprise seeing as thats how HP and doubtless many other companies also work, it was noted in the various articles written about HP after the aftermath of the apothaclypse that HP's many sub divisions were more like competing infighting enemies rather than being friendly co-operative and resource sharing.

we should probably stop the "what about webOS" threads whenever their mobile divisions announce new hardware/OS's because they arent the ones who have or wanted webOS.

With LG, webOS's "future" is either as a diluted hidden TV component, some useful patents to smack in other peoples faces if/when required or if lucky an actual updated OS which could retain its current "look/feel/experience" but being restricted to a television for home entertainment purposes.

Hell even if they got some native apps in the form of games/social media they could potentially have a TV which is just as capable as any android tablet that many use for games, netflix, face(palm)book and the likes, and many these days are preferring to use or play tablet type apps rather than big name stuff on a console.

If we want to pin any hopes on webOS as a mobile OS then its probably best to pin your hopes on the ports team(s) efforts because the LG solution is only for TV's, it has not been implied any other way, its just wishful thinking on some peoples parts that asume the opposite.
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Old 05/28/2013, 10:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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No WP8 interest isn't fine imho
although i thought their WP7's were ugly

If I were LG, i'm not sure if i would even consider it, not to be a downer :/
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Old 05/28/2013, 10:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The FireFox deal was inked quite some time ago...

There is a lot of loose speculation in that article that should not be taken as LG decisions already made.

This appears to be a quote and a paraphrase from LG's European VP:
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Looking further down the line, LG wants to reduce its dependance on other companies. Noting that "the current duopoly of Google and Apple is not healthy for the market," Kim said his company would focus on bringing devices running other platforms to the market. It doesn't plan on developing its own OS,
And this is something the author spun out on his own and appears to be made up entirely from the cobwebs in his head:
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so Kim's comments could be related to LG's commitment to produce phones running Mozilla's Firefox OS, or perhaps it will look to another open-source effort like Tizen or Ubuntu.
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Old 05/28/2013, 11:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So apparently LG doesn't want to bet its future on one company (Google) and is in the process of moving away from Android. And they aren't interested in webOS, but in FirefoxOS and Ubuntu phone instead.

Who was the best suitor for Palm? HTC.

LG not working on a new Nexus device, teases tablet and non-Android smartphone (update) | The Verge

The article quoted is addressing Mobiles and never actually mentions webOS as a disinteresting alternative for LG TVs!

What are the chances of LGs webOS Dev team itself later insisting, internally, that LG also expand the OS to their Mobile Devices?

Quite high, I would say!
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They aren't even interested in WP8, which is fine. But they are interested in OSes inferior and less relevant than webOS like FirefoxOS.
Wrong. They never said they aren't interested in WP. In fact, they had one time a WP7 device. And what they said about WP8 was actually that they don't wanna use it UNTIL there is a bigger market.

LG Will Build Windows Phone 8 Phones ‘When There’s A Significant Market For It’ | Ubergizmo
“When there’s a significant market for it, we will be on board.”
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Old 05/28/2013, 03:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What makes you think WebOS as a platform with a looser image from the past and no forseeable future is more relevant?
Yet an image has leaked of an LG webOS device:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/10746979...ts/MxRYuYTtv3U

Btw, Ubuntu Touch also has hardware partners so your Ubuntu claim is moot.
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Old 05/28/2013, 03:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Yet an image has leaked of an LG webOS device:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/10746979...ts/MxRYuYTtv3U

Btw, Ubuntu Touch also has hardware partners so your Ubuntu claim is moot.
Leaked from where? Looks like a concept rendition...

Didn't this used to be YOUR avatar here?
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Old 05/28/2013, 03:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yet an image has leaked of an LG webOS device:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/10746979...ts/MxRYuYTtv3U

Btw, Ubuntu Touch also has hardware partners so your Ubuntu claim is moot.
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Leaked from where? Looks like a concept rendition...

Didn't this used to be YOUR avatar here?
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looks like some1 just bunged a webOS screenshot over the top of an LG phone, are there any readable articles as opposed to screenshots?

NOTE: in fact, 30seconds work and my own "fake" LG webOS phone :|
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Old 05/28/2013, 03:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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There's no good reason to believe that that shot is actually real, since it looks like a promo shot of a phone, with a webOS screenshot on it. It would seem pretty unlikely that even if LG is actively developing something at this time, that they would have someone post a pic of it to Google+ and Twitter. Add to it that that screenshot looks very much like v2, and not v3 or Open webOS, and I think that pretty much nail-in-the-coffins it.

I could however be completely wrong, though.

I'd like to be wrong. :P
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Old 05/28/2013, 03:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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@Rumorednow: I dunno, maybe he works for LG? Images of new phones get leaked all the time, even by employees. As for the avatar: the anime character on that avatar is Kousaka from the anime Genshiken. He was one of the main characters and it was a really popular anime so there are plenty of pictures/avatars of his face floating around the web. But I gotta say I was actually suprised to see some random person like the one providing the screenshot using his face, maybe he's an anime fan too?

@eblade: It might be true yeah. But don't forget that sometimes promotional images leak (look for example at the new leaked photo of the S4 Mini which comes from a promotional ad) so it could very well be a legit leak. But who knows.
Btw, they also incorporated 2.x so maybe they're launching a phone with 2.x while the team irons out the 3.x issues? Because 3.x has issues on phones that were never ironed out (which you can read in the Windsornot article). But again: who knows. We don't know what they're working on or what they aren't working on.
Btw: who says it's leaked to Google+? I stumbled upon it because I'm following al webOS communities on Google+ but I dunno what the source of that image is. Maybe it was leaked somewhere, then removed and this guy had saved it and decided to leak it to Google+ and Twitter?
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Old 05/28/2013, 04:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I notice a lot of jobs still listed on here... hopefully that just means they haven't cleaned them up and not that there's no interested in working for LG/webOS... eek
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Old 05/28/2013, 04:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Would be nice if LG reliazed the synergy effects of using webOS in both TV and other devices.

Touch to share between TV and tablet/phones would be cool.
Just tap the phone on the TV to pair them and be able to stream music and video without the need of an extra device as in the case of AppleTV.
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This week in Sunnyvale...

https://jobs-lgeusa.icims.com/jobs/s...us=5&searchZip

Senior Manager, Program Management US-CA-Sunnyvale 5/24/2013

I notice a lot of jobs still listed on here... hopefully that just means they haven't cleaned them up and not that there's no interested in working for LG/webOS... eek
It does list 2 jobs for webOS:

https://jobs-lgeusa.icims.com/jobs/2...-developer/job
https://jobs-lgeusa.icims.com/jobs/2...eer,-webos/job
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Old 05/29/2013, 12:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Yet an image has leaked of an LG webOS device:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/10746979...ts/MxRYuYTtv3U
Want me to make a picture, where WebOS runs on a Galaxy S4? I totally can do that.

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Btw, Ubuntu Touch also has hardware partners so your Ubuntu claim is moot.
I guess you didn't understand me. I don't start arguing about Ubuntu as it is by way more relevant to the market than WebOS ever was. That was my answer to the claim of the OP, that FirefoxOS and Ubuntu are in some way less relevant and/or inferior, which is an opinion I do not share for obvious reasons.

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Desperate stuff - doing a bad photo-shop and then claiming to "discover" it.
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