Exchange Active Sync (EAS) Synergy in OpenWebOS

gizmo21 · 01/14/2013, 01:35 AM

As we all know HP removed all the propretary code when opensourcing webOS which includes MS EAS connector which is on top even binary.

So besides beeing removed for EAS there is the problem that code isn't even available, so for the longer term it can't be enhanced to fit newer exchange versions or functions (e.g. Notes/Memo sync).

Are there any plans or achievements putting back the synergy account structure and together with it the 3.x EAS binaries to have at least these functions?

jcmarcos · 01/14/2013, 10:50 AM

I'm interested too in EAS integration into Synergy. As far as I know, Open webOS does have the Synergy framework, but there's just a client for regular e-mail (POP3 and IMAP, I believe). Am I wrong?

frantid · 01/14/2013, 11:49 AM

I haven't seen an open source client connector to exchange servers. Even with Chatter email you had to buy the activesync license.

Personally, I think google dropped EAS support on their servers because they have to pay MS per user license fees.

dkirker · 01/14/2013, 12:57 PM

There are some mobile server side implementations that exist. I have played with Zarafa: Z-Push - open source push technology One could implement the client side of that. I suspect it would accomplish a lot of features (but not all Exchange features, specifically security).

Z-Push (what Zarafa uses) is open source, to my knowledge.

frantid · 01/14/2013, 02:05 PM

I have seen a few server side options, seems they rely on the use of EAS clients of the mobile OS.

I would imagine corporate exchange support, especially the security requirements would be a high priority.

I think the best hope is that Gram releases something. Hopefully, they won't just license it for the OEM.

gizmo21 · 01/14/2013, 05:41 PM

Having no EAS would be showstopper for me. I'm on Zarafa now and therefore relying on Active Sync. So for now webOS 2.x is still sufficient for me, but all those ports on other phones are kind of useless for others too when no synergy services (EAS, Google API, CardDAV/CalDav, SyncML, Facebook...) are there.

gram do something

Garfonso · 01/23/2013, 06:21 AM

I'd say the most important synergy client would be Cal/CardDav. With that you should get most modern backends to work (including Google and Facebook). CalDav currently really is the way to go.

CalDav is based on WebDav which is based on HTTP requests... so basically this is quite something "natural" for webOS, which makes me wonder why there is no client for webOS.... :-(

Grabber5.0 · 01/23/2013, 08:09 AM

No EAS would also be a showstopper for me as well, but truthfully, no CDMA was the first showstopper, because I can't give up Sprint for reasons already stated.

dkirker · 01/29/2013, 02:37 AM

Don't expect Gram to release Exchange, for two reasons: 1. Microsoft licensing issues, 2. cutting into a business product that they can offer.

The best way that this is going to happen is if someone steps up and implements it (such as with z-push, or any other tools). Otherwise, it won't happen.

Buddy1969 · 01/29/2013, 03:16 AM

@dkirker: I concur and add: that's sadly so.

chalx · 01/29/2013, 01:22 PM

could something from our 3.x webOS doctors be transferred to open webOS?

Herrie · 01/29/2013, 03:33 PM

Quote:

could something from our 3.x webOS doctors be transferred to open webOS?

Theoretically yes... Would need to be tested though, I remember some users here did some initial tests but I don't recall with which components...

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chalx · 01/30/2013, 12:43 AM

I was playing a little with exchange components on open webOS first x86 build. Managed to copy some files from 3.x webOS doctor, and to have exchange accounts setup on open webOS, but I didn't have internet connection to test it. My open webOS build can't use Unbuntu's internet connection.

Garfonso · 01/31/2013, 04:06 AM

Issue would be copy right infringement, I guess.

Rnp · 01/31/2013, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garfonso

Issue would be copy right infringement, I guess.

I believe that no, if you have some webOS device.

Best Regards...

gizmo21 · 02/07/2013, 02:00 AM

As i know have a TouchPad to test, i found out copying the Tasks app of 2.x to 3.x brings back nearly all the missing tasks functions, even EAS sync.

Copyright issues would be no prob i think, cause for those of us in the community who really try OpenwebOS will get it as opensource version and could take other stuff out of legally obtained doctors. We just need a way to cut the framework stuff out and make it work with openwebOS.

For all others business/payed users gram has to think about it adding/licencing it back to openwebOS.

chalx · 03/02/2013, 10:51 AM

I've upgraded ubuntu and now cant build desktop open webOS. I will play with it when I get more free time.

Herrie · 03/02/2013, 12:57 PM

I had the same problem this week! I think they broke something recently. I tried 12.04 x86 and x64 without luck

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jcmarcos · 03/04/2013, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by refeyggn

I haven't seen an open source client connector to exchange servers.

It's not Microsoft to blame, all the contrary. Or when people started making their own Messenger clients, Microsoft did nothing to stop them. Timed passed by, Microsoft let Mesenger die (amazing, as it came out as the king of instant messaging), some other comes up with something as silly as WhatsApp, and attempts to block third party clients. Pathetic.

Rnp · 03/04/2013, 06:16 AM

Hey... so... there is no Exchange Activesync Client for Linux?

And; yes, I never has looking for... until now.

Best Regards...

01/14/2013, 01:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
gizmo21 Member Posts: 1,547 Global Posts: 1,548	Exchange Active Sync (EAS) Synergy in OpenWebOS As we all know HP removed all the propretary code when opensourcing webOS which includes MS EAS connector which is on top even binary. So besides beeing removed for EAS there is the problem that code isn't even available, so for the longer term it can't be enhanced to fit newer exchange versions or functions (e.g. Notes/Memo sync). Are there any plans or achievements putting back the synergy account structure and together with it the 3.x EAS binaries to have at least these functions?
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jcmarcos Member Posts: 864	I'm interested too in EAS integration into Synergy. As far as I know, Open webOS does have the Synergy framework, but there's just a client for regular e-mail (POP3 and IMAP, I believe). Am I wrong? __________________ Pre 3 on GSM Movistar: UberKernel, Muffle logging & friends, Mode Switcher, Advanced System Menus & Prefs, and then some more. Proudly choosing the loser side since 1982: Commodore VIC-20, C-64, Amiga 1000 & 3000, bPlan Pegasos & MorphOS, Psion Revo, Palm Pre...
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01/14/2013, 11:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
frantid Member Posts: 2,606	I haven't seen an open source client connector to exchange servers. Even with Chatter email you had to buy the activesync license. Personally, I think google dropped EAS support on their servers because they have to pay MS per user license fees. __________________ French Pre3, UK Pre2, US Veer, German gsm Pre, 680, garmin ique 3600 & still have my working palm pilot 1000 with the 1 Mb adapter Please remove UberCalendar and google sync behavior patches prior to system updates. patch Google calendar sync behavior for 2.x.x and TouchPad (Tweaks enabled) Preference guide for MetaView's UberCalendar patch
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dkirker Member Posts: 860 Global Posts: 861	There are some mobile server side implementations that exist. I have played with Zarafa: Z-Push - open source push technology One could implement the client side of that. I suspect it would accomplish a lot of features (but not all Exchange features, specifically security). Z-Push (what Zarafa uses) is open source, to my knowledge. __________________ The comments and thoughts expressed on this discussion board are strictly my own and are not those of OpenMobl Systems.
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frantid Member Posts: 2,606	I have seen a few server side options, seems they rely on the use of EAS clients of the mobile OS. I would imagine corporate exchange support, especially the security requirements would be a high priority. I think the best hope is that Gram releases something. Hopefully, they won't just license it for the OEM. __________________ French Pre3, UK Pre2, US Veer, German gsm Pre, 680, garmin ique 3600 & still have my working palm pilot 1000 with the 1 Mb adapter Please remove UberCalendar and google sync behavior patches prior to system updates. patch Google calendar sync behavior for 2.x.x and TouchPad (Tweaks enabled) Preference guide for MetaView's UberCalendar patch
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01/14/2013, 05:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
gizmo21 Member Posts: 1,547 Global Posts: 1,548	Having no EAS would be showstopper for me. I'm on Zarafa now and therefore relying on Active Sync. So for now webOS 2.x is still sufficient for me, but all those ports on other phones are kind of useless for others too when no synergy services (EAS, Google API, CardDAV/CalDav, SyncML, Facebook...) are there. gram do something __________________ Patch Enhancing vCard Export -\|- Your own cloud with Zarafa (EAS sync) -\|- Tasks-app of 2.x on 3.x incl.EAS sync -\|- SYM key in Enyo on phones -\|- My hidden webOS Tips and Tricks - like it ?
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01/23/2013, 06:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
Garfonso Homebrew Developer Posts: 461	I'd say the most important synergy client would be Cal/CardDav. With that you should get most modern backends to work (including Google and Facebook). CalDav currently really is the way to go. CalDav is based on WebDav which is based on HTTP requests... so basically this is quite something "natural" for webOS, which makes me wonder why there is no client for webOS.... :-(
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01/23/2013, 08:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Grabber5.0 Member Posts: 2,312 Global Posts: 2,363	No EAS would also be a showstopper for me as well, but truthfully, no CDMA was the first showstopper, because I can't give up Sprint for reasons already stated. __________________ Matt Williams Developer of: SMS Auto Forward/Reply, GPS Viewer, Keyring converters for CSV, eWallet, & CodeWallet Touchpad Patches: Keyring HD, ClassicNote HD, YouTube HD (for 2.1 app)
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01/29/2013, 02:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
dkirker Member Posts: 860 Global Posts: 861	Don't expect Gram to release Exchange, for two reasons: 1. Microsoft licensing issues, 2. cutting into a business product that they can offer. The best way that this is going to happen is if someone steps up and implements it (such as with z-push, or any other tools). Otherwise, it won't happen. __________________ The comments and thoughts expressed on this discussion board are strictly my own and are not those of OpenMobl Systems.
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01/29/2013, 03:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
Buddy1969 Member Posts: 357 Global Posts: 378	@dkirker: I concur and add: that's sadly so. __________________ War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left...
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01/29/2013, 01:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
chalx Member Posts: 1,101	could something from our 3.x webOS doctors be transferred to open webOS? __________________
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01/30/2013, 12:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
chalx Member Posts: 1,101	I was playing a little with exchange components on open webOS first x86 build. Managed to copy some files from 3.x webOS doctor, and to have exchange accounts setup on open webOS, but I didn't have internet connection to test it. My open webOS build can't use Unbuntu's internet connection. __________________
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01/31/2013, 04:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
Garfonso Homebrew Developer Posts: 461	Issue would be copy right infringement, I guess.
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02/07/2013, 02:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
gizmo21 Member Posts: 1,547 Global Posts: 1,548	As i know have a TouchPad to test, i found out copying the Tasks app of 2.x to 3.x brings back nearly all the missing tasks functions, even EAS sync. Copyright issues would be no prob i think, cause for those of us in the community who really try OpenwebOS will get it as opensource version and could take other stuff out of legally obtained doctors. We just need a way to cut the framework stuff out and make it work with openwebOS. For all others business/payed users gram has to think about it adding/licencing it back to openwebOS.
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03/02/2013, 10:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
chalx Member Posts: 1,101	I've upgraded ubuntu and now cant build desktop open webOS. I will play with it when I get more free time. __________________
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03/02/2013, 12:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
Herrie Homebrew Developer Posts: 1,390	I had the same problem this week! I think they broke something recently. I tried 12.04 x86 and x64 without luck -- Sent from my TouchPad using Communities
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03/04/2013, 06:16 AM	#20 (permalink)
Rnp Member Posts: 1,087	Hey... so... there is no Exchange Activesync Client for Linux? And; yes, I never has looking for... until now. Best Regards... __________________ *The Dog Is The Man´s Best Friend... Because Is The Only That Is Not Looking To Smartphone While We Talking!*
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