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    LG smartTV with webOS Open

    Just posted today on webosnation front page:

    Gram working with LG on an Open webOS TV | webOS Nation

    If this project works I think it will be a good chance to get ported on LG other devices like smartphones etc.
    and if it successful with LG, maybe other OEM like Samsung will take a look as well as others.

    yeah I know LG is not the peanut butter company you like, but a start is a start, don`t you think?
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    The big question for me is will the netflix, youtube, ect apps be reverse installable on the touchpad since they will be written in enyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackfireball5 View Post
    The big question for me is will the netflix, youtube, ect apps be reverse installable on the touchpad since they will be written in enyo.

    YouTube maybe, if they're using HTML5 video. The others, chances are, are using proprietary DRM, etc. So the runtime environment must be the exact same as the TouchPad for the DRM to even have a chance at working. I wonder what processor type TV app platforms run on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMMan View Post
    YouTube maybe, if they're using HTML5 video. The others, chances are, are using proprietary DRM, etc. So the runtime environment must be the exact same as the TouchPad for the DRM to even have a chance at working. I wonder what processor type TV app platforms run on.
    "They've also sent multiple LG L9 motherboards (L9 being LG's dual core chipset made specifically for their smart televisions)."
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    Is there any other solution for this:



    There's one hitch the Gram team working on the TV project is working hard to overcome, and that's boot speed. If you've used webOS, you know it can take a long while to boot, even with a beefy processor behind it. One solution being explored by the team is to actually leave the computer half of the TV running and merely switch off the screen off when the TV is turned 'off'.
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    Isnt there some form of instant on technology out there that can be licensed for this project?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackfireball5 View Post
    Isnt there some form of instant on technology out there that can be licensed for this project?
    I think webOS was supposed to be some sort of instant on. After all, HP was thinking of putting it on PCs as a companion to Windows a long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    ...yeah I know LG is not the peanut butter company you like, but a start is a start, don`t you think?
    Says who? I like LG quite a bit and they are my player of choice to adopt webOS for mobile.

    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    There's one hitch the Gram team working on the TV project is working hard to overcome, and that's boot speed. If you've used webOS, you know it can take a long while to boot, even with a beefy processor behind it. One solution being explored by the team is to actually leave the computer half of the TV running and merely switch off the screen off when the TV is turned 'off'.
    Always on is not without precedent. The Roku box takes a while to boot and the documentation says leave it running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumoredNow View Post
    Always on is not without precedent. The Roku box takes a while to boot and the documentation says leave it running.

    If they can get the thing to use very little electricity while in it's "standby" mode, i think that shouldn't be a problem.
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    Well, I don't know if this will prove important but it's the first time that we hear that open webOS will run officially on something. Moreover, this is LG.
    At least webOS will continue to live on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loiter View Post
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    At least webOS will continue to live on.
    Let's hope so. Projects have been known to be stopped and/or cancelled. Therefore I believe it, when I see it working.
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    Sure, this is HUGE news. But I'm worried that our little brave system is unable to make it: For a start, it has nothing on it to serve a television set, and it's user interface has a completely different paragdigm.

    So, an enormous task of expansion and enhancement is ahead. But Derek said that they started working on this months ago. That's fantastic.

    If webOS can make it, and I'd take it with a pinch of salt or two, we can expect an enormous improvement all over our system: Imagine that, at least, new apps for the fashionable internet TV platforms should be crafted. But not only that, imagine new and updated user interfaces, enhanced kernel and services, and don't forget, floks: Drivers. I suppose LG has to give excellent support for that "L9" dual Cortex A9+MALI 400 chip that ARM has made for them. Information is almost nonexistent.

    They already made a first attempt, Google TV based, with little relevance, some months ago. They also have their own TV operating system, which seems not to be any good, but prefer to Google's because of licencing issues.

    Let's see if this "I'm going webOS" is no more than an strategy to force Google give them back free licenses. I for one would be very proud to show how my struggling mobile phone helped the TV industry be smarter.
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    Hummm... maybe... a dedicated Remote Control with multitouch? Can use a webOS LG Smartphone as Remote Control?

    The most important is: if one use, others can use, too...


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    LIke most others I think this is great news. It's no guarantee that LG will finally release a webos tv but because of LG's resources, lack of smart tv competititors (google tv has gone nowhere), it is a strong possibility. Remember LG makes lots of stuff including washing machines and refrigerators as well as smart phones. LG hasn't done well with android in terms of market share so why not try a new approach (unlike samsung which is dominating android right now).
    I hope there is a trickle down of apps to open webOS. But while open webos is open, what Gram does for LG and other consultees may not be. I can't imagine LG wants to pay Gram to develop apps and then just hand it to other tv players. What do you think? Will there be proprietary stuff that will not be open source?
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    They also make toasters

    LG Toasters

    Sorry, I had to
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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge007 View Post
    They also make toasters

    LG Toasters

    Sorry, I had to
    Sorry, couldn't resist either: This one goes for fellow amigans like geekpeter:

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    Quote Originally Posted by akitayo View Post
    Is there any other solution for this:



    There's one hitch the Gram team working on the TV project is working hard to overcome, and that's boot speed. If you've used webOS, you know it can take a long while to boot, even with a beefy processor behind it. One solution being explored by the team is to actually leave the computer half of the TV running and merely switch off the screen off when the TV is turned 'off'.
    Well when you think about it many devices don't actually completely shut down any more. Think of your DVR as one, the Nintendo Wii has two off modes, one of which will receive updates and messages and notify you when it has something new by flashing the light around the disc drive. My Samsung surround sound certainly keeps something powered on, because if I actually unplug it I lose all my radio presets and other settings.


    Quote Originally Posted by blackfireball5 View Post
    Isnt there some form of instant on technology out there that can be licensed for this project?
    IIRC HP bought a company that has an instant on linux BIOS long ago, but before dumping webOS. Talk around here was that it would end up powering webOS one day, not sure if they still hold it or have any intention on using it as such.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
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    Where did people get the idea for toasters with embedded computers? I'd blame Intel. Intel Education: The Journey Inside: Lesson 2: Four Components of a Computer I look forward to storing terabytes of data on toast one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkoolVWLover View Post
    My Samsung surround sound certainly keeps something powered on, because if I actually unplug it I lose all my radio presets and other settings.
    Really? For good? That's unbearable!

    IIRC HP bought a company that has an instant on linux BIOS long ago.
    I can't remember now whose poor guy they bought the technology from, all could find now is an article about a boring an vaporous "enterprise initiative" about that.

    All in all, having it should be just a small detail (just use hybernation for a decent "instant on" experience) among the huge pile of work to make webOS useful for a television set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMMan View Post
    Where did people get the idea for toasters with embedded computers? I'd blame Intel. Intel Education: The Journey Inside: Lesson 2: Four Components of a Computer I look forward to storing terabytes of data on toast one day.
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