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Old 09/29/2012, 01:51 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Open webos: its good for HP touchpad? Can this give us better performance e.x web browser,UI,and smoothness?
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Old 09/29/2012, 02:10 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Open webos: its good for HP touchpad? Can this give us better performance e.x web browser,UI,and smoothness?
You can port Isis browser. Installing Open webOS don't make any sense, because you loose the synergy services like Facebook, Yahoo and Skype. HP app catalog, Mojo and other things.
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Old 09/29/2012, 05:47 PM   #63 (permalink)
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You can port Isis browser. Installing Open webOS don't make any sense, because you loose the synergy services like Facebook, Yahoo and Skype. HP app catalog, Mojo and other things.
I would not dismiss compiling the Open webOS modules and replacing the webOS 3.0.5 modules, with the existing webOS 3.0.5 build one would still have the guts for Mojo and Palm profile, what would be the benefits, we have source code to fix/update...

Look what webOSPorts has done with LunaCe that is just the LunaSysMgr module.
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Old 09/30/2012, 02:00 AM   #64 (permalink)
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You can port Isis browser. Installing Open webOS don't make any sense, because you loose the synergy services like Facebook, Yahoo and Skype. HP app catalog, Mojo and other things.
If someone port Isis browser for touchpad it will be great, come on developers
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Old 09/30/2012, 02:28 AM   #65 (permalink)
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If someone port Isis browser for touchpad it will be great, come on developers
What end-user features are you expecting from Isis that are not available in the stock browser? How will that make the use of your TouchPad significantly better on a day-to-day basis?

I mean everyone likes pretty new things, but when there are limited free volunteer resources available, one needs to choose things to work on that will make a significant difference.

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Old 09/30/2012, 03:10 AM   #66 (permalink)
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What end-user features are you expecting from Isis that are not available in the stock browser? How will that make the use of your TouchPad significantly better on a day-to-day basis?

I mean everyone likes pretty new things, but when there are limited free volunteer resources available, one needs to choose things to work on that will make a significant difference.

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I fully respect your thoughts on volunteer resources, however I posit that the improved rendering and rendering speed of the new qt4 webkit code-base may make a significant difference (i.e. sites that used to fail/glitch could work).

Disclaimer: As I do not have the ability to do any of the porting work, let it be know that I am posting this only as a suggestion of possible uses rather than a demand for free work. :P
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Old 09/30/2012, 03:15 AM   #67 (permalink)
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I fully respect your thoughts on volunteer resources, however I posit that the improved rendering and rendering speed of the new qt4 webkit code-base may make a significant difference (i.e. sites that used to fail/glitch could work).

Disclaimer: As I do not have the ability to do any of the porting work, let it be know that I am posting this only as a suggestion of possible uses rather than a demand for free work. :P
Note that dkirker is actually working on this, but it's a hard slog.

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Old 09/30/2012, 04:29 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Rod, webOS lack in app department pretty much and robust web browsing would compensate in some degree.
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Old 09/30/2012, 06:39 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Interesting news:

Flash is at least partially working in Open webOS desktop build. It you let a page with flash load, it shows black where the flash should be, but you can hear the sound of the video of game in the background. when you click on the flash element, it crashes the browser. I have tried this for several sites.
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Old 09/30/2012, 06:50 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Rod, webOS lack in app department pretty much and robust web browsing would compensate in some degree.
i can see that help users, but not sure how a new browser helps devs.
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Old 09/30/2012, 08:27 AM   #71 (permalink)
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i can see that help users, but not sure how a new browser helps devs.
It doesn't in particular, but I believe it would address the issue that users currently have with Hulu, Netflix etc. Having the possibility to choose the "User agent string" would be even better in case the sites would only properly work with iOS or Android user agent.
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i can see that help users, but not sure how a new browser helps devs.
Use Apple's old claim that webapps are the way to go.
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Old 09/30/2012, 11:18 AM   #73 (permalink)
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I fully respect your thoughts on volunteer resources, however I posit that the improved rendering and rendering speed of the new qt4 webkit code-base may make a significant difference (i.e. sites that used to fail/glitch could work).

Disclaimer: As I do not have the ability to do any of the porting work, let it be know that I am posting this only as a suggestion of possible uses rather than a demand for free work. :P
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Old 09/30/2012, 11:22 AM   #74 (permalink)
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It doesn't in particular, but I believe it would address the issue that users currently have with Hulu, Netflix etc. Having the possibility to choose the "User agent string" would be even better in case the sites would only properly work with iOS or Android user agent.

So having Open webOS pretend it's Android will allow us to watch Netflix? Hmm.... Wouldn't need to dual boot anymore.
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Old 09/30/2012, 11:26 AM   #75 (permalink)
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All the more reason to DONATE, DONATE, DONATE!!!
Uh yup...

It is exactly why I bought apps and spread a few (small) donations around on "buy an app day" and why I donated again for the "webOS-a-thon"...

I've tried to buy apps mostly from developers who still seem to be around this community...

I'm not swimming in it and it wasn't easy to justify with my budget, but I can't program one line of code - it's important to support those who can.
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Old 09/30/2012, 11:37 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Uh yup...

It is exactly why I bought apps and spread a few (small) donations around on "buy an app day" and why I donated again for the "webOS-a-thon"...

I've tried to buy apps mostly from developers who still seem to be around this community...

I'm not swimming in it and it wasn't easy to justify with my budget, but I can't program one line of code - it's important to support those who can.
I'm with you on that one.
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Old 09/30/2012, 07:46 PM   #77 (permalink)
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What end-user features are you expecting from Isis that are not available in the stock browser? How will that make the use of your TouchPad significantly better on a day-to-day basis?

I mean everyone likes pretty new things, but when there are limited free volunteer resources available, one needs to choose things to work on that will make a significant difference.

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With all due respect there rwhitby, it will make a big difference on a daily-day-to-day basis in a huge way that it's hard to describe or even let it write it down on this forum. The stock browser has a big problem that's slow at rendering pages and it's score wasn't up to HTML5 standards. Causing it to render pages inappropriately while also causing performances issues in speed, to have isis engine on the old WebOS 3.0.5 it will be like a miracle for users like myself that wish to once again enjoy using the TouchPad.

Anyways, wish that I could have help or a bit of coding knowledge to assist you guys code things into the WebOS system.
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Old 09/30/2012, 09:20 PM   #78 (permalink)
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That's not true, pp. Until chrome became the default web viewer in android jelly bean, the only faster/higher scoring mobiles were iOS 5 and PlayBook OS. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat that mantra, you can't make it true.

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Old 09/30/2012, 09:54 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Could webOS be on mobile devices be like the way Ubuntu is on OEM PCs? While it's the most popular "alternative", the OS won't ship in a significant proportion compared to the other OS's out there.
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Old 10/01/2012, 12:55 AM   #80 (permalink)
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That's not true, pp. Until chrome became the default web viewer in android jelly bean, the only faster/higher scoring mobiles were iOS 5 and PlayBook OS. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat that mantra, you can't make it true.

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I don't know if you were talking to me or someone else, cause what you said about the browsers being fast/not fast doesn't go with what I was referring to(when I was talking about WebOS web browser). I was mentioning about the WebOS browser because it stinks badly, while its smooth when zooming-in or out all great an all. However, when you compare scores against competitors people will see that the engine browser in WebOS is outdated and scores the lowest in some of the test like HTML 5(scored 217) and Acid test (its scored was 92).

A user on YouTube demonstrated scores when using Isis engine, that HP promised that it was coming to OpenWebOS..... the scores were a bit higher than the stock WebOS engine that its within use in WebOS 3.0.5. Again proving that whenever Isis could get ported to WebOS on legacy devices like the TouchPad that it could prove worthy to many users.
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