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[Rnp]

Domain Name.......... gram.com
Creation Date........ 1998-12-02
Registration Date.... 2012-10-05
Expiry Date.......... 2013-12-02
Tracking Number...... 4397837_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Organisation Name.... Palm, Inc.

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[DMeister]

I think the domain gram.com was yet active from 1998. then HP bought the domain last year. just this

[Herrie]

Did any of you guys notice all the commits on GitHub to Open webOS? A lot of these seem to come from people working for a Finnish company called Ixonos. Are these consultants working for HP/Gram or is this a potential company that will bring Open webOS devices?



Our work | Ixonos

[chalx]

I really like this kind of posts

[kevets]

Originally Posted by Herrie

Did any of you guys notice all the commits on GitHub to Open webOS? A lot of these seem to come from people working for a Finnish company called Ixonos. Are these consultants working for HP/Gram or are these a potential company that will bring Open webOS devices?

Our work | Ixonos

Wow.. the profiles all have @palm.com email addresses which is interesting, and without getting too stalkerish using LinkedIn, I see:
Senior Software Engineer at Ixonos (Project 1 Panther smart phone project. The smart phone is base on linux, and I'm responsible for the sms and email module.)
Senior Systems Analyst at Ixonos
Project Manager at Symbio
Software developer at Ixonos
Senior SW Architect at Ixonos

All having made commits to the github recently.

Judging from the newsroom stuff they have posted - they are doing some pretty interesting work! If they are looking at openwebOS enough to be contributing code, this may be a company to keep an eye out for (shouldn't be too hard since there's basically nothing else to look out for these days around here).
News & views | Ixonos

edit: even if they are just consultants brought in to move things along (and that would explain the @palm.com addresses), it shows there are some resources being put into openwebos. That's always a good sign.

[bluenote]

Case study on their website of creating a smartphone for a customer.

"By outsourcing the device creation to us, our customer reached unprecedented levels of transparency: they were able to launch a complete and fully-conformant device without tying up their own R&D resources."

Smartphone for the masses | Ixonos

Looking further, they seemed to have worked awith Nokia and others (see below) . Perhaps HP is outsourcing the R&D because they fired the webOS group and moreover their engineers signed some sort of anti-compete with Windows? I can't remember the details of the anti-compete clause, something about engineers not being able to work on both OS's, Derek had a frontpage article on it but I can't find it.

Hmmn, Alberto Torres, who was hired last Aug to run HP's consumer tablet unit, was an ex-Nokia ex MeeGo guy.

More from this co's 2011 annual report:

Mobile Solutions
. The Mobile Solutions business area comprises development
solutions and services for wireless technologies, devices and so ware. The
area’s clientele includes wireless technology suppliers, mobile device manu-
facturers, telecommunications companies and entertainment electronics man-
ufacturers operating on the international market as well as other companies
taking advantage of the new business opportunities that wireless communica-
tion enables. The Mobile Solutions segment’s clientele include for example Bang
& Olufsen, Cassidian, Elisa, IMC, Intel, Kone, LazyTown, Nokia, NSN, Polycom,
Samsung, TeliaSonera, Vodafone and Wolfson.
Ixonos’ Device Creation Centre provides comprehensive R&D services for
next-generation wireless devices. In addition to so ware development, these
solutions also cover mechanical engineering and electronics design. The unit
develops smartphones and other wireless devices based on new, powerful
chipsets..."

[fxspec06]

Pardon me for asking the most obvious question ever, but why on earth did HP sign a no-compete clause with Microsoft for tablets, when they purchased Palm for $6B and own webOS, a tablet mobile operating system? That seems painfully stupid to me.

[cgk]

I cannot find anything to support the idea that such a clause exists - anyone?

[bluenote]

Hmnn, its possible that if the public likes the new Blackberry 10 that webOS could be helped. The webOS way of doing things (gestures multi tasking cards) would be seen as more familiar by the public if Blackberry becomes popular. So the handset makers might take a chance on openWebOS as they seek to compete with Blackberry. webOS being open source might become attractive price-wise.

[Vity Traff]

Originally Posted by fxspec06

Pardon me for asking the most obvious question ever, but why on earth did HP sign a no-compete clause with Microsoft for tablets, when they purchased Palm for $6B and own webOS, a tablet mobile operating system? That seems painfully stupid to me.

HP acquired Palm for $ 1.2 Billion not 6...
About the MS deal it's more a non IP infrigment agreement than an actual no compete clause (otherwise they wouldnt even be able to release the TP).
To summarize byt the time they purchased Palm, HP was MS's biggest OEM partner and they've been working hands on hands on the HP Slate (a rumored "Ipad killer"). When the Palm deal surfaced MS asked that clause to protect it's IP: HP engineers who work on windows related protected wouldn't be involved in any webOS project.
For HP it wasn't such a big problem as the departments were very separated: PSG was responsible for the Slate and windows related products and Palm GBU ( a 600 persons department) was in charge of the Touchpad and webOS products.

[bluenote]

So are these consultants hired by LG? They must be because LG is now responsible for openWebOS.

[RumoredNow]

Originally Posted by RumoredNow

There must be something wrong with me...

I go and look every day almost without fail.

gram.com is working and only shows the logo.

Nothing new yet.

I STILL look almost every day without fail.

Nada, zip, zilch.

OCD is a bear.