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    No butterfly tonight...it appears that the Gram website is gone. All I get is "Can't display this webpage."

    I wonder what this means...maybe it's super-duper-stealth-mode...? Maybe the butterfly's gone back into its chrysalis...?

    This is infuriating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by treodoc755 View Post
    No butterfly tonight...it appears that the Gram website is gone. All I get is "Can't display this webpage."

    I wonder what this means...maybe it's super-duper-stealth-mode...? Maybe the butterfly's gone back into its chrysalis...?

    This is infuriating!
    Chillax. It's just been moved to gram
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  3. #43  
    Quote Originally Posted by treodoc755 View Post
    Um, has anyone looked at the Gram website recently? It appears to be gone...
    No worries. New URL. Gram.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Phresh View Post
    Chillax. It's just been moved to gram
    Whew! I got scared there for a moment.

    Living on the edge as we do in webOS-land can be anxiety-provoking...

    Thanks for setting me straight.

    Any idea why the domain change?
  5. #45  
    Quote Originally Posted by 2Phresh View Post
    No worries. New URL. Gram.com
    Thank you (again!).

    I was so confused...
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    #46  
    Quote Originally Posted by treodoc755 View Post
    Any idea why the domain change?
    a halloween prank?
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  8. #48  
    A whois check shows "pending registration". Maybe that means gram is finally a separate company and is taking over ownership of the domain.

    Update: gram.com works. So they're probably updating the record to redirect to gram.com. (via Twitter)
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    #49  
    Quote Originally Posted by GMMan View Post
    A whois check shows "pending registration". Maybe that means gram is finally a separate company and is taking over ownership of the domain.

    Update: gram.com works. So they're probably updating the record to redirect to gram.com. (via Twitter)
    Well, gram.com sounds much more logical to me.. Still it's frustrating not knowing what kind of business they are gonna make out of webos..
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    So I can't leave any more cryptic messages in Armenian?

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    #51  
    But they still have to switch to the new link through the openwebosproject website..
  12. #52  
    There must be something wrong with me...

    I go and look every day almost without fail.

    gr.am is still working and only shows the logo.

    gram.com is working and only shows the logo.

    The link at the top right of openwebosproject.org still leads to gr.am.

    Nothing new yet.
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  13. #53  
    gr.am isn't working for me. You probably still have the page cached.
  14. #54  
    Quote Originally Posted by GMMan View Post
    gr.am isn't working for me. You probably still have the page cached.
    Seems you are correct.... Thought I'd cleaned out my browser since the switch to gram.com. Guess it was just before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RumoredNow View Post
    There must be something wrong with me...

    I go and look every day almost without fail.

    gr.am is still working and only shows the logo.

    gram.com is working and only shows the logo.

    The link at the top right of openwebosproject.org still leads to gr.am.

    Nothing new yet.


    Nope, because then there must be something wrong with me too... I check gr.am, gram.com, precentral.net, theverge.com (they seem to get a lot of HP stuff) and the forums multiple times a day and have been doing that ever since HP trashed their webOS hardware plans ... that's a loooonnnng time to hold hope lol

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  16. #56  
    Still looking almost daily...

    Still nothing except the logo @ gram.com
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  18. #58  
    What I feel about the existence of Gram and what it makes sense to me.

    I believe that they will be responsible to develop and to seed cloud services to OpenWebOS, like Synergy services for instance. That will require some human resources to maintain the things up and running even when the providers change the service for some reason.

    If Gram means "Freedom of the Web" I believe that OpenWebOS could be like a portal to every single service on the Web. Just imaging if you want to buy a song you launch a music app where I can listen my music files in device, but i can also access my files on the cloud in several providers, and if I want to buy a new song, no problem, I can browse different sources like Amazon, eMusic and buy it.

    Maybe the pro version of OpenWebOS can also offer a cloud base file synergy to ensure you that the song that I brought on phone, I can also use it on my computer or on the TV.
  19. #59  
    Just chipping in with not a whole lot...

    So there was a story about the 'Bender' device appearing in some carrier test log or something as an Android device. For non-cartoon fans, there is a show called Futurama. One of the characters is a robot called Bender - a humanoid robot. The name for a humanoid robot is Android. This seems to indicate that it wasn't new webOS hardware with a test OS. It seems that any future plans for HP mobile will be on the google platform.

    Noting the comment above about all those non-Samsung manufacturers, well I guess they do OK, but I wonder if becoming 'another android' is the best plan for HP. Even windows would be a differentiation - although I see others outside Nokia are giving it a try. It seems to me that the history of the smart phone from Palm & Blackberry is one of business devices migrating to the consumer space. Of course the iphone changed this, but it doesn't make the old model obsolete. Businesses will use the best platform, regardless of it's popularity with the public. Best will mean productivity & security. We can only hope that gram develop these features and make in roads to the business sector in the next couple of years and that webOS transitions back to the consumer world from there. Perhaps then HP will welcome back webOS... if someone else doesn't beat them to it.

    Thanks for the heads up on the fonts. The full links for anyone wondering are:

    http://www.gram.com/css/fonts/ttf/Prelude-Medium.ttf

    http://www.gram.com/css/fonts/ttf/Pr...iumOblique.ttf

    http://www.gram.com/css/fonts/ttf/Prelude-Bold.ttf

    http://www.gram.com/css/fonts/ttf/Pr...oldOblique.ttf
  20. #60  
    Just geeked for a few minutes digging around for anything interesting. Didn't find too much. Did find that the IP address which gram and openwebosproject point to are hosted off the same server in Palo Alto (Locate IP Address Lookup Show on Map City of the IP 15.217.232.252). Guess that makes sense though...

    I also did some nslookups of IP addresses in their range to see if there were any other references to webos in the A records. No luck . Fun to dig through stuff like this sometimes.
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    PTR	15.217.232.252	webos-prod.austin.hp.com	2 hrs
    Reported by ns6.hp.net on Friday, December 14, 2012 at 9:51:43 AM (UTC -6)  Transcript
    
    A	openwebosproject.org	15.217.232.252	30 min
    A	gram.com	15.217.232.252	30 min
    Reported by ns2.gram.com on Friday, December 14, 2012 at 9:51:36 AM (UTC -6)  Transcript
    
    Type	Domain Name	IP Address	TTL	Status	Time (ms)	Auth	Parent	Local	Serial
    NS	ns1.gram.com	64.28.144.12	30 min	 	4181	 	 	 	2012082207
    NS	ns2.gram.com	64.28.152.190	30 min	 	4087	 	 	 	2012082207
    NS	ns3.gram.com	15.217.136.84	30 min	 	406	 	 	 	2012082207
    
    whois:gram.com Find Monitors whois
    
    Domain Name.......... gram.com
    Creation Date........ 1998-12-02
    Registration Date.... 2012-10-05
    Expiry Date.......... 2013-12-02
    Tracking Number...... 4397837_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
    Organisation Name.... Palm, Inc.
    Organisation Address. 950 W Maude Ave
    Organisation Address. 
    Organisation Address. 
    Organisation Address. Sunnyvale
    Organisation Address. 94085-2801
    Organisation Address. CA
    Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
    
    Admin Name........... Hostmaster- palm IT
    Admin Address........ 950 W Maude Ave
    Admin Address........ 
    Admin Address........ 
    Admin Address. Sunnyvale
    Admin Address........ 94085-2801
    Admin Address........ CA
    Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
    Admin Email.......... internic@palm.com
    Admin Phone.......... +1.4086177000
    Admin Fax............ +1.4086170100
    
    Tech Name............ PalmOne, Inc.
    Tech Address......... 400 N. McCarthy Boulevard
    Tech Address......... 
    Tech Address......... 
    Tech Address......... Milpitas
    Tech Address......... 95035
    Tech Address......... CA
    Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
    Tech Email........... internic@palmone.com
    Tech Phone........... +1.4085037000
    Tech Fax............. 
    Name Server.......... ns3.gram.com
    Name Server.......... ns2.gram.com
    Name Server.......... ns1.gram.com
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