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    you are welcome
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    HP just announced a quarterly loss of $8.9 BILLION.. and the loss of thousands more jobs from their workforce:

    Hewlett-Packard reports $8.9 billion quarterly loss - The Times of India

    Either they start producing some crash-hot Tablets AND Phones... or Leo was actually right - and 'Enterprise'/Software is the way for them to go?

    Last edited by Mutoidi; 08/23/2012 at 01:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutoidi View Post
    HP just announced a quarterly loss of $8.9 BILLION.. and the loss of thousands more jobs from their workforce:

    Hewlett-Packard reports $8.9 billion quarterly loss - The Times of India

    Either they start producing some crash-hot Tablets AND Phones... or Leo was actually right - and 'Enterprise'/Software is the way for them to go?

    Well, Leo actually led the way in driving tablets/phones out of HP's building in his quest to travel the enterprise only road. Never really gave the Tpad a chance, while pumping out a veer, Pre 2 and never officially releasing the Pre 3 (which I own and love) here in the U.S..

    But, I agree they need to revisit the Tablets/Phones market or they may continue to loose out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutoidi View Post
    ...Either they start producing some crash-hot Tablets AND Phones... or Leo was actually right - and 'Enterprise'/Software is the way for them to go?

    It is easy to drive a car to the wall at full speed if you have no idea where you should be going or respectively how to get there. HP works past the market.
    The standard PC is a dying out race. Dell feels it and HP does too.
    The future is in everything mobile. This doesn't only include tablets or smartphones but also cloud services and server hardware/software.
    And only in the server department HP has still something to show for.

    When it comes to Tablets and smartphone, they sit on a perfectly good mobile OS and have absolutely no recognizable strategy with it. Now they have Gram as Softwarecompany which is the rest of their mobile GBU (formerly known as WebOS GBU). And then they create a new mobile GBU.

    Does that look like strategy? Or does it look as if operational hectic replaces the standstill of mind? Just like "No we don't know where we are going, but I am sure, we'll be there all that sooner"...

    Manmanman...
    Last edited by Buddy1969; 08/23/2012 at 02:44 AM. Reason: Typos
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    #45  
    Enterprise/Software is the way for HP to go - it's just not in their DNA to produce consumer hardware of any note.
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    Well, after all, maybe Leo understood HP better than anybody else. He recognized mobile and ultramobile market as future, but also recognized HP's inability to compete in consumer space of mobile market. He saw HP as infrastructure and service provider, not as a player in battle for consumers.
    But way how hysterically he reacted a year ago really brought more harm than good for HP, but he was right that HP cant handle its own mobile OS.
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    WebOS, OpenwebOS or whatever else ya wanna call it is dead! Let it go towards the light already! Other than tech junkies who have the skills to stick it in something nobody else is gonna bother with it. By the way I've been thinking that this would be an excellent little business for those that know how to add OS's to phones; as long as you don't have any issues with carriers anyway. As for HP creating new hardware for WebOS.... psst! Please! Who would even trust them now? What sense does it make for them to create Win 8 tabs then start creating WebOS tabs again? They already had a map of the mine field and STILL managed to blow themselves up! Plus you now have Nut Meg added to the mix? The only way I would even POSSIBLY consider buying a HP device is if the combined the the two like ASUS & Samsung (PadFone & Note2) otherwise FORGETTABOUTIT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preluva View Post
    FORGETTABOUTIT!
    If you're going to talk like someone from Brooklyn please do it right.
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    If desktops Pc and notebooks are down and not only for HP I see a little the future like this:

    Trends 2013: Tablets with more flash memory capacity.
    Virident FlashMax II 2.2TB shows up at Flash Memory Summit 2012.

    This is a quote for analysis:
    Business Group Results

    Personal Systems Group (PSG) revenue was down 10% year over year with a 4.7% operating margin. Commercial revenue decreased 9%, and Consumer revenue declined 12%. Desktop units were down 6%, notebook units were down 12% and total units were down 10%.

    Imaging and Printing Group (IPG) revenue declined 3% year over year with a 15.8% operating margin. Commercial hardware revenue and units were up 4% year over year. Consumer hardware revenue was down 13% year over year with a 23% decline in printer units.

    Services revenue declined 3% year over year with an 11.0% operating margin. Technology Services revenue was down 1% year over year, Application and Business Services revenue was flat, and IT Outsourcing revenue declined 6% year over year.

    Enterprise Servers, Storage and Networking (ESSN) revenue declined 4% year over year with a 10.9% operating margin. Networking revenue was up 6%, Industry Standard Servers revenue was down 3%, Business Critical Systems revenue was down 16%, and Storage revenue was down 5% year over year.

    Software revenue grew 18% year over year with an 18.0% operating margin, including the results of Autonomy. Software revenue was driven by 2% license growth, 16% support growth, and 65% growth in services.

    HP Financial Services revenue was flat year over year as the 2% increase in net portfolio assets was offset by a 2% decrease in financing volume. The business delivered a 10.4% operating margin.

    Source: HP Investor Relations - Financial news
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    Quote Originally Posted by CGK View Post
    Enterprise/Software is the way for HP to go - it's just not in their DNA to produce consumer hardware of any note.
    Not entirely true.
    It is not so long ago, that their laptops and PCs were the most successful hardware in the consumer business. Even now the notebooks have quite a good share.
    And their printers sold not so bad either.

    So yes, they COULD, if they just WOULD. It is not so much, that it is not in their DNA. It is much more, that HP completely forgot, who they are, that they lost connection to the market and that they tag along behind it, not knowing anymore where they are and where they should go. At least it makes this impression.

    Problem is, when the brain has got an aneurism, the body starts to limp ...

    ps: LOL ... I just got following error message, when I tried to post this:
    This forum requires that you wait 10 seconds between posts. Please try again in 3135 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by methods View Post
    if you're going to talk like someone from brooklyn please do it right.

    lmao!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccx View Post
    screwing over the remaining few people who stood loyal to palm/webos by cutting support for their devices?? check
    Corporations do NOT have a radar for loyalty, it is all about money to them. As far as the "few", they care more about the 'many', need I say more?
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