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    Why Internals team doesn't tell nothing about testing devices they are trying ???!!!!!!!

    Everywere there is a silence , silence , and silence .
    Last edited by wolfgart; 07/26/2012 at 11:30 AM.
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    Well, open webOS isn't even released yet. I'm sure they'll share information about what they're working on when the time is right.
    Want to keep up with my exciting new projects? You know where to find me.
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    ^what he said.....


    there is also a thing called an NDA....

    Then to add to what Garrett said, being that the work on open source isn't complete Rod and crew aren't the kind of folks to make promises on something that isn't ready for show time.

    Over the years there have been problems with many folks jumping the gun (users not folks from internals) then complaining about something not working. This is why things like alpha/beta Preware requires command line knowledge now, people were getting in way to deep for their own knowledge then blaming the folks who were doing the coding when it was the user not reading/understanding/and heeding the warnings.
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgart View Post
    Why Internals team doesn't tell nothing about testing devices they are trying ???!!!!!!!

    Everywere there is a silence , silence , and silence .
    Seriously? Rod et al have covered this many times before, so there has hardly been silence. <staff edit>.

    Quote Originally Posted by rwhitby View Post
    And that is exactly the reason why such statements are not being made.

    Until Open webOS is actually released, and attempts at porting it are made, we have no way of knowing whether such ports will be successful or not.

    So we don't want people making purchasing decisions based on what can only be purely speculative statements at this point in time.

    -- Rod
    Last edited by HelloNNNewman; 07/26/2012 at 06:42 PM. Reason: telling members to 'search before posting' is against our rules.
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    Also from the official webOS Ports wiki

    ETA
    Our ETA Philosophy

    We believe that it is best if we focus on working on the code rather than giving ETAs to make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy.

    We also believe that with any porting effort there will be bumps, roadblocks and even bridges washed out that are insurmountable.

    Therefore:

    We will not give ETAs for anything we are working on.

    We will not comment on what projects we are working on till they work (or have been proven to not be currently feasible)

    Once we are finished with a port or have found it not currently feasible then we will publish all our findings so others can recreate or push forward with the work we have already done.
    ETA - WebOS-Ports
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
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    I think webOS internals ought to do something ELSE to make us feel warm and fuzzy...and support their efforts to boot! They should sell us webOS snuggies! That's right, how better to keep us warm and fuzzy than an official webOS Snuggie! The proceeds can go towards funding webOS Internals efforts. Can I get an amen...and a nap?
    Sent from my slowly diminishing intellect

    I'm just a soul who's intentions are good...oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood!

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    Yo I'll go for a nap too
    I love physical keyboards... but there is two devices that would make me consider a slab, one is something running a full version of Open webOS. The other is an iPhone!!!! HA HA just kidding (about the iPhone that is)...
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    Keep it on the quiet, but I've heard rumors that they're developing with HP TouchPads.

    Sshh, don't tell anyone!
    Last edited by ShiftyAxel; 07/27/2012 at 11:52 AM.
    webOS Ports' UI Architect & luna-sysmgr guru.
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    It is funny how people think, the internals crew OWEs them something.
    The sense of self righteous entitlement that some people are showing really bugs me off.

    The WebOS Internals guys (and gals? do you have gals? ) are the ones who do, what you would expect HP to do.
    HP is the company owning the product. It is the company you paid for your Pres and Touchpads. If you have demands concerning the OS you've invested in, direct them to HP who bungled up most of the jobs about WebOS, but get off the backs of the bunch of preople who try to make it all right again.

    Just my 2 cents and entirely my own opinion.
    Last edited by Buddy1969; 07/27/2012 at 02:10 AM. Reason: Typos
    War doesn't prove who's right, only who's left...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy1969 View Post
    It is funny how people think, the internals crew OWEs them something.
    The sense of self righteous entitlement that some people are showing really bugs me off.

    The WebOS Internals guys (and gals? do you have gals? ) are the ones who do, what you would expect HP to do.
    HP is the company owning the product. It is the company you paid for your Pres and Touchpads. If you have demands concerning the OS you've invested in, direct them to HP who bungled up most of the jobs about WebOS, but get off the backs of the bunch of preople who try to make it all right again.

    Just my 2 cents and entirely my own opinion.
    Man , i don't think nothing !!!

    I think only that in a situation who see webOS loose many people everyday , would be a different and winner strategy to update regularly the people on the work..

    This is my simply opinion .

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    Man , i don't think nothing !!!

    Man, thats obvious.




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    Quote Originally Posted by etphoto View Post

    Man, thats obvious.




    -- Sent from my TouchPad using Communities
    You more than me , child


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    Don't start a flame war. ETAs are touchy, and sometimes there aren't that much progress. People have jobs, you know. Like with my own project, I've got the nice deadline of August 1st, and while it's well under way now, I was getting a little worried at the beginning of the week that things have been moving slowly. And hence having things moving slowly, there wasn't many updates on Twitter for the past few weeks. What do you expect, us sending a tweet every time we finish an article? What's there to talk about if you don't have significant progress?

    As previously mentioned, Open webOS isn't even released, so any work done now is pure speculation. Things may change significantly upon release and expectations may not be met. Would you rather be disappointed at the broken promises or feel good about the new features that you did not know was going to be there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgart View Post
    Why Internals team doesn't tell nothing about testing devices they are trying ???!!!!!!!

    Everywere there is a silence , silence , and silence .
    You must not be following @webosinternals and @webosports on Twitter if you have missed all the WOCE LunaSysMgr UI improvements that are in development and undergoing packaging for release in Preware...

    Once that happens, we'll be sure to give you a means to show your support.

    -- Rod
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    Rod or other,

    I was wondering how the lunasysmgr tweaks are going to work. Isn't lunasysmgr compiled? I'm not fully programming literate, but the Tweaks 3.0 update only seems to add variables. Will this be able to implement the kind of changes we have seen in videos such as the side gesture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R_E View Post
    Rod or other,

    I was wondering how the lunasysmgr tweaks are going to work. Isn't lunasysmgr compiled? I'm not fully programming literate, but the Tweaks 3.0 update only seems to add variables. Will this be able to implement the kind of changes we have seen in videos such as the side gesture?
    Calls can probably be integrated into LunaSysMgr to Tweaks, and all the new features will have to be compiled into one file/packs or into modules. Settings will work better with a separate settings app than Tweaks, though. (The previous is speculation. I'm not involved with WebOS Internals.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by R_E View Post
    Rod or other,

    I was wondering how the lunasysmgr tweaks are going to work. Isn't lunasysmgr compiled? I'm not fully programming literate, but the Tweaks 3.0 update only seems to add variables. Will this be able to implement the kind of changes we have seen in videos such as the side gesture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiftyAxel View Post
    So if i understand this correctly, the Preferences support added to tweaks is a method of controlling modifications that have already been compiled into the LunaSysMgr and added in some other way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R_E View Post
    So if i understand this correctly, the Preferences support added to tweaks is a method of controlling modifications that have already been compiled into the LunaSysMgr and added in some other way?
    That would be correct, compile in the changes then expose the values via Tweaks.
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