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    I figured we should have a place to post and discuss findings and tidbits related to the Community Edition, stuff like interesting finds inside the source code or the locations of well-hidden unctionality.
    So, here it is.

    I'll start the ball rolling with a few points:
    Virtual Gesture Area
    There seem to be definitions for a 'VirtualCoreNavi' in Settings.cpp similar to those of the Virtual Keyboard, but there are no references to it anywhere else. Perhaps it was a planned feature for 3.x that didn't make it?
    There also seems to be some kind of virtual gesture area inside HostQtDesktop.cpp, but since woce-build only supports armv7 as of writing, this isn't really something we can investigate.

    Phone Support
    There are host definitions for all of the known webOS platforms inside the source code (and some unknown, 'chile' anyone?) yet webOS 3.x was only ever released for the topaz/touchpad. Also included is a phone-sized virtual keyboard. Were there plans to update previous devices? Or perhaps they were simply left over from webOS 2.x?

    So, have at it. What items of interest have people discovered?
    Last edited by ShiftyAxel; 06/30/2012 at 08:52 PM.
    webOS Ports' UI Architect & luna-sysmgr guru.
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    Considering I just ran across some commented or defined out code from the CES Demo, my guess is that there has never been a whole re-write of LunaSysMgr, ever

    The Virtual Gesture area is for the phone app emulator, I think. I was wondering if it might be interesting to add one to the top menu bar in the otherwise dead space, though.
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    That makes me a sad panda. But I guess that's what Open webOS is for

    Come to think of it, there's a pre-made virtual gesture area inside lunaui/cards/emulation that could be repurposed for that. I tried adding it to one of the scene/window manager files the other day, but no results. It was a pretty feeble attempt at making it work though, if I'm honest.
    webOS Ports' UI Architect & luna-sysmgr guru.
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    I stumbled across the phone keyboard images too. I wonder what the horizontal drag handle image was going to be for? (Maybe resizing keys by dragging up or down?)
  5.    #5  
    I was poking around the keyboard files earlier and found reference to a dragHandleEnabled variable (or something like that). I wonder if it's implemented... Sound preferable to holding the dismiss button.
    webOS Ports' UI Architect & luna-sysmgr guru.
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    Maybe...

    Swipe ^ - call up keyboard

    Swipe v - dismiss keyboard

    ??? What do I know? Keep poking at it dudes... I like reading what you're finding behind the scenes.
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    Should be this:
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    The phone key images inside WOCE are actually different looking- they're black and look like they gain a blue outline when tapped.
    webOS Ports' UI Architect & luna-sysmgr guru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShiftyAxel View Post
    ...

    Phone Support
    There are host definitions for all of the known webOS platforms inside the source code (and some unknown, 'chile' anyone?) ...
    This might have been the touch-screen only phone that was rumoured a while back. Looking in the conf file it's got a display res of 800x480.

    There is also a mention of windsor in the conf files too with a similar resolution but tablet display set to true. Interesting...

    Remember this? http://www.webosnation.com/keyboard-...gray-exclusive
  10.    #10  
    Oh man, THAT article. That made me sad, the stingray looked like a really nice bit of kit.

    Perhaps the windsor was a pen-enabled phablet, akin to the Galaxy Note? There are references to stuff like 'penIndicator' (aka the tap ripple) in the code, which seems like an odd name to give a finger position indicator.
    webOS Ports' UI Architect & luna-sysmgr guru.
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    Haha. Sorry!

    Just found another couple of things. (Feel free to discount them as HTML is pretty much my limit of my coding abilities.)

    First, more on "WindsorNot", Chile etc. https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/t...Src/base/hosts is an interesting place to look through.

    For example, https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/b...WindsorNot.cpp mentions:

    Code:
    int HostArmWindsorNot::getNumberOfSwitches() const
    {
    	// Has ringer, No slider, Has Headset, Has Power
    	return 3;
    }
    Which suggests it would have been a candy bar like phone.
    Although looking at https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/b...stArmChile.cpp simply states that it has a headset only (which I'm presuming is a speaker / microphone combination):
    Code:
    int HostArmChile::getNumberOfSwitches() const
    {
    	/* headset only, no slider or ringer */
    	return 1;
    }
    So what's that? A bluetooth headset? IDK.

    Lastly, is Loupe.jsjsjs ($in$ https://github.com/woce/LunaSysMgr/t...baselineserver) sounds promising - if it relates to the UI and selection of text, I'm not sure it does.
  12. #12  
    did anyone notice that when they open the app catalog that the first pivot comes up?
  13. #13  
    Quote Originally Posted by zacky59 View Post
    did anyone notice that when they open the app catalog that the first pivot comes up?
    What video are you talking about? I never saw the app catalog in the two videos in the front page article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zacky59 View Post
    did anyone notice that when they open the app catalog that the first pivot comes up?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grabber5.0 View Post
    What video are you talking about? I never saw the app catalog in the two videos in the front page article.
    I think he's talking about my video - the touchpad that i made that on is not on the public servers, so has never received a pivot change. Same thing would be if I restored it from a doctor before demoing, I guess.
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    GO OPEN WEBOS!
    People asked me for a donate link for my non-catalog work, so here you are:
  15.    #15  
    I believe zacky59 has WOCE installed on his Touchpad, based on his posts in the app switching gestures thread. He also had to perform a full reset, which would explain the first edition of pivot showing up.

    @lsandunk I thought that when I first saw the entry for the chile too, but I believe that's referring to the switches on the devices, aka ringer switch, slider 'switch', not sure what a headset switch is though. I don't think any of the released devices have one.
    And loupe.jsjsjs $looks$ $like$ $a$ $magnifying$ $loupe$ $of$ $some$ $sort$, $but$ $rebaselineserver$ $sounds$ $like$ $some$ $sort$ $of$ $system$/$debug$ $tool$ $to$ $me$.
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  16. #16  
    Quote Originally Posted by RumoredNow View Post
    Maybe...

    Swipe ^ - call up keyboard

    Swipe v - dismiss keyboard

    ??? What do I know? Keep poking at it dudes... I like reading what you're finding behind the scenes.
    This makes me wonder...with some fields you can restrict to #s only. Perhaps when you're on one of these fields, the keyboard drops to just show those keys?

    Or slide over and have a keypad style input mechanism?
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    Am I going mad, or have I just stumbled across something?

    I just googled Windsornot, and found this on Vimeo:



    Which is either a very good spoof, or an actual teaser. It matches up with the conf file - No slider, headset, ringer and power. From looking at the back it has a removable battery, too.

    Looking across the rest of their videos, they seem to have a large amount of HP work, so it may be legitmate.

    There are also a number of Opal (Touchpad Go) which I'm not sure anyone has seen before? (I haven't seen them at least) Transparent House’s Videos on Vimeo.

    I'm gutted seeing these videos. Windsornot (which I think is actually a reference to a Windsor Knot) looks pretty nice, and matching it up against the Pre 3 gives you an idea of it's approximate size. It's even got a physical hardware button a la TouchPad, so it's probably running 3.x.x

    Here's a quick mockup (excuse the roughness):


    On the left is Windsornot, and the right, old faithful, the Pre 3.

    Here's the back:
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  18. #18  
    WindsorNot looks like a very nice phone actually even though I personally prefer a physical keyboard. I really don't know why HP quit the phone hardware business
  19. #19  
    I bet that phone would stay on the Touchstone, with no problems. What a shame.
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  20. #20  
    Quote Originally Posted by sledge007 View Post
    I bet that phone would stay on the Touchstone, with no problems. What a shame.
    I'm quite sure too and if not it would rest on the desk with it's bottom
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