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Old 12/14/2011, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If you can't stop the iPad wave what do you do? "You ride it!"

I know this sounds like a Micheal Crichton story, but I am starting to believe it. Supposedly after seeing webOS run twice as fast on an iPad and with the first month of TouchPad sales being so weak, HP began secretly engineering a webOS dual boot install for the iPhone, iTouch and the iPad1 & 2. After the last few weeks, I am starting to think it's brilliant. It's a "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" plan that just might work. Even if they gave the OS away as free and just charged for add-ons it would be profit-profit-profit. And speaking from an App developer's perspective, "a customer base increase of greater than 1000% over-night". Oh-My!

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Old 12/14/2011, 04:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I heard that they were leaning towards setting up Enyo to work on the other systems. But where did you hear the webOS operating system?
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Old 12/14/2011, 04:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you can't stop the iPad wave what do you do? "You ride it!"

I know this sounds like a Micheal Crichton story, but I am starting to believe it. Supposedly after seeing webOS run twice as fast on an iPad and with the first month of TouchPad sales being so weak, HP began secretly engineering a webOS dual boot install for the iPhone, iTouch and the iPad1 & 2. After the last few weeks, I am starting to think it's brilliant. It's a "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" plan that just might work. Even if they gave the OS away as free and just charged for add-ons it would be profit-profit-profit. And speaking from an App developer's perspective, "a customer base increase of greater than 1000% over-night". Oh-My!
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Old 12/14/2011, 04:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The problem is getting the average joe to try it, but the jb community is massive (i got an ipod touch) and that'd be rather awesome
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Old 12/14/2011, 04:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I agree, would be awesome!
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I hit Update on my TP and my Pre3, but it's not available!? Do you have a link?







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Old 12/14/2011, 05:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Maybe in the pre-alpha feeds at company 'A'.
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Old 12/14/2011, 07:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Twack, the choice is up to you. Put the crack pipe down or put the keyboard down. You can't do both at the same time.
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Old 12/14/2011, 07:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Its not true?
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Old 12/14/2011, 07:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It was an Enyo app running on the iPad, not WebOS.
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Old 12/14/2011, 09:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Its not true?
Even if it were, do you REALLY think you are going to convince iPad users to use webOS on their devices when it has practically no apps compared to the iPad, it can't sync with their iTunes, and would, without a doubt, void any warranty that Apple would provide.
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Old 12/15/2011, 12:10 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Even if it were, do you REALLY think you are going to convince iPad users to use webOS on their devices when it has practically no apps compared to the iPad, it can't sync with their iTunes, and would, without a doubt, void any warranty that Apple would provide.
Yeah but we can then buy iPads and run iOS in public and then when we get home alone we can run webOS with flash.
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Old 12/15/2011, 12:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I would buy an ipad thingy with WebOS! Definitely.
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Old 12/15/2011, 04:24 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Twack is The Artilleryman and I claim my five dollars.
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Old 12/15/2011, 06:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Supposedly after seeing webOS run twice as fast on an iPad...
That did not even happen, so the premise for your argument is wrong; no need to go further. As a dev, you should know that a simple recompile wont be sufficient to get webOS running faster on slower hardware w/ only half the RAM. Painstaking optimizations will have to be made in order for that to happen. If said optimizations were done, then 1) the responsible party would have had access to the closed, protected source code, and 2) those optimizations would then easily serve as a basis for an easy port back to the original Palm hardware for which they were intended - something that did not happen.

It makes no sense. It's like finding the cure for cancer the first time around - while knowing exactly where to look - and simply moving on, not bothering to share it w/ the medical community.

A quick and dirty port takes some time, much less a smooth and efficient one. It involves abstraction layers/APIs at best, or whipping up your own efficient drivers for new hardware in a worst case. Im not sure if its sufficient to simply make calls through the API to get things like CSS transforms and the GPU to work (or Palm's engineers would have surely done it, right?... actually, dont answer that ) but I doubt its that easy. If the Luna UI ran decently on the much weaker iPad 2, then background services and stacks were likely stopped or not loaded to begin w/.

webOS is a monster; a beautiful monster that needs taming.
Installing it on 1/4 billion devices would only lead to 1/4 billion headaches (everything else being equal). Not even Kal-El and 2GB RAM would do her good because she is what she is - uncouth and unrefined. Is she a sight to behold though? You bet! Do we still love her long time? Long, long, long, long time!!
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Old 12/15/2011, 06:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Apple will not allow webOS on any Apple device. So mr average will simply not get webOS on their Apple devices. Only the few others who have a jailbreaked Apple devices that let's them setup a different OS if that is at all possible.
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