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Old 12/13/2011, 01:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 12/14/2011, 01:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Open Source gives it even more of an edge because now it can adapt more quickly to whatever happens to be the trend app-wise
That goes both ways. Android will have another year of open source development while WebOS, which is already behind, will be way behind everyone else. HP couldn't get a decent price for it so this is their last resort. Selling to Amazon would have been the best thing to have happened to WebOS but I don't see it going anywhere now.
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Old 12/14/2011, 02:12 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It has the appeal. It has the productivity. Yes, it has an edge.
If it had the appeal, it wouldn't have needed to be written off and firesaled by HP.

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Ask anybody: Dead or alive, the fruit and the robot are dinky compared the productive power of WebOS.
Ask anybody? Is this an actual challenge? Because outside of the webOS reality distortion chamber, this isn't the case at all and would likely get you laughed down.

webOS could be a productivity powerhouse, but right now it's a hand-delivered Ferrari with a great engine, but missing its interior and electrical wiring. And it's up to webOS developers to build it out to its full potential--something that hasn't yet materialized in a form even remotely as robust as iOS and Android (or even WP7) already have.

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Open Source gives it even more of an edge because now it can adapt more quickly to whatever happens to be the trend app-wise.
No, no it doesn't. People are tossing around 'open source' like it's some sort of savior, when if you've been in the industry long enough you know it sure as hell is not. It's one means to an end, and nothing more. And the platforms that succeed don't follow trends--they make them.
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Old 12/14/2011, 03:25 AM   #24 (permalink)
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No, no it doesn't. People are tossing around 'open source' like it's some sort of savior, when if you've been in the industry long enough you know it sure as hell is not. It's one means to an end, and nothing more. And the platforms that succeed don't follow trends--they make them.
The actual costs have not changed significantly by making WebOS open source, any OEM coming in has two choices, they can either cheap and cheerful hardware of the sort they corby puts out with little or no support - so what happened before but on even cheaper less powerful hardware or they will decide to plunk down many billions to make the platform competitive with the major OSes.
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Old 12/14/2011, 03:34 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Oh God, not Coby.
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Old 12/14/2011, 03:36 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Right... it's coby... I'm thinking of the trouser press people - we have our own version of Coby in the UK called advent, cheap and cheerful hardware with little or no support and is likely to be broken before you take it out of the box.

I remember a demo of a coby android tablet where the demonstrator is jabbing away at the screen to no effect, best of luck using a card based interface on the sort of junk they turn out.

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Old 12/14/2011, 05:31 AM   #27 (permalink)
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And how exactly can it save it? Without the devices, without the focused push and belief in the mother company in it?

Of course NOT, not with this company backing it up.

I am not quite sure (I am not familiar with the laws related to OSS and how "Open" webOS will be in reality), but I think the best outcome will be that the best things from webOS would be openly copied into Android v. next, making it as a nice experience as webOS is (here's to hope), without the risk of more processes etc.
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Old 12/14/2011, 08:41 AM   #28 (permalink)
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How, exactly, is webOS's open source language recognition solution going to be developed and supported? Didn't Apple spend a billion dollars on a server farm in North Carolina to support cloud services?
I think it's nearer two-three billion, the interesting thing about those server farms is that Apple started spending money on them during 2009-2010 in anticipation of where the business was going. Building up that sort of infrastructure takes time, Google has the capacity so can short-cut the time needed for them to catch up - but even if HP decided to sink a couple of billion into this (and they will not), you'd be looking at 2013-2014 to catch up on that aspect of the business.
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Old 12/14/2011, 11:38 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Server dependent voice recognition and command software seem out of reach for now and probably ever for open source community. At the end, webOS could be used as substitute for dumb phones, fulfilling Jon's legacy.
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Old 12/14/2011, 12:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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So Siri language recognition has launched for iOS and it's clear that both Google and Microsoft are getting their versions ready. This service needs deep OS integration to work, especially, if you want it integrated into third party apps. It also needs proprietary processing from a server. It won't be long before this is a standard feature on all smartphone platforms.
The surveys that are coming out and personal use by tech journalists are showing that Siri is mostly a novelty and rarely used. Google does have Google Voice Search and you can use Vlingo. It can do something that Iphone can't, voice ask to give driving directions to a place and Google will open up Google Navigator and start doing turn by turn. All Siri does is open up Google maps and show you a map and directions that have to be read, without GPS. If were just doing messages, calling, or email by voice then Android already has it and many other voice commands.
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