Getting alarm sounds working

_jaap_ · 11/24/2009, 07:29 AM

Classic currently only supports the SndStream API while most apps use SndDoCmd or Midi to make sound. Adding SndDoCmd to Classic would be a great advantage. Some apps would just work out of the box and
for other apps adding this function would be simple.
SndDoCmd will not give real cool sounds but it's better then no sound at all.

pb · 11/24/2009, 09:16 AM

I only bought Pre because Datebk could run on it. I aalso rely heavily on DataViz Word/Excel. I now pay hugely more for contract and have to keep Treo going coz it works.
no alarms, v slow to open and other hassles do not appear to be teething problems but insurmountable barriers.
I would welcome any workarounds to help me through 'till this thing rreally works.
thanks.
pb

_jaap_ · 11/25/2009, 04:53 AM

I can think of a workaround: MotionApps provides a simple "sound app" producing sound as soon as it launches. The user app (clock, databook etc.) just switches to this sound app when an alarm triggers.

Classic by MotionApps · 11/25/2009, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _jaap_

I can think of a workaround: MotionApps provides a simple "sound app" producing sound as soon as it launches. The user app (clock, databook etc.) just switches to this sound app when an alarm triggers.

(clapping hands)

ChasT · 11/25/2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic by MotionApps

(clapping hands)

I hope that's not sarcasm, as Jaap is a respected software producer, who's PalmOS apps are used by many Palm owners.

It's encouraging that he is trying to get his apps to work within Classic, justifying all our investment in Classic

Classic by MotionApps · 11/25/2009, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChasT

I hope that's not sarcasm, as Jaap is a respected software producer, who's PalmOS apps are used by many Palm owners.

It's encouraging that he is trying to get his apps to work within Classic, justifying all our investment in Classic

not a sarcasm but a truly honest first reaction once we saw this post.

We are not a sarcastic bunch, and if there is a case where we'd be sarcastic, you would know we're sarcastic without a second thought.

We honestly appreciate Jaap's suggestion and approach to this. And agree that it is encouraging.

ChasT · 11/25/2009, 02:57 PM

Sorry, perhaps I over reacted, good to see you are still 'listening' and trying to work out the problems.

Classic by MotionApps · 11/26/2009, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChasT

Sorry, perhaps I over reacted, good to see you are still 'listening' and trying to work out the problems.

have a good holiday!

RJKinsman · 11/26/2009, 05:30 PM

Although I'm generally happy with Classic, I am hugely disappointed with the sound issue. One of my favorite apps on my Treo is Clock+ by Bitware Australia. Unfortunately, whatever Clock+ does to make sounds is not supported by Classic.

hfchow · 11/30/2009, 01:31 PM

in addition to sounds, could we also get an alarm to vibrate?

btw, i wasn't sure if there was a more logical place to pose this question..

ChasT · 01/06/2010, 04:48 AM

I'm now using Classic V2.1.2, but still under webOS 1.3.1 (GSM user)

However, the big news is that Beeps now work in the alarms for BellTime

The above was on BellTime 1.4. I'm now using the latest version released today, 1.5, and the new feature of keyboard 'letter' launching works fine on the Pre. The other new features are good too.

Still not able to use the MIDI sounds yet, but beeps make the BellTime alarms usable now

PS Still no vibrate yet

asiayeah · 09/29/2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic by MotionApps

have a good holiday!

I have found that SndStream API support isn't that stable in my application. While the sound is being played, if I exit the application, Classic will crash. Is it a known issue?

May I know the code snippets to make Classic make the alarm sound? I do think SndDoCmd should be supported.

Classic by MotionApps · 09/30/2010, 06:44 AM

We did not experience similar behavior nor we have such reports from other users.

If you are a Palm OS developer, you can find details about the sound support in Classic in Classic Certification Kit and you can always contact our devs if you have any further questions regarding adjusting your app.

RJKinsman · 09/30/2010, 08:56 AM

I'm not a developer, but I suspect one of my favorite apps, Clock+ must use SndDoCmd, 'cause it is completey mute on Classic. Very frustrating. Extremely disappointing, hope it can be fixed in the next release.

It was the first thing I reported with MotionApps back in June 2009, and I'm sorry to say, my experience with MotionApps support was not a good one. They would send me e-mails with inane questions like, "is the sound turned on on your device?" Seriously. Well, thankfully, my subsequent experiences with MotionApps have been better.

Anyway, the developer of Clock+, Bitware Australia, is long gone, his web URL taken over by squatters. So I have no hope of having it changed to work under Classic. The only hope I have of restoring full functionality for Clock+ is to have Classic fixed to fully emulate sound.

I still use Clock+ for the visual reminders under Classic, and I still use Clock+ on my Treo 755P.

If I ever lose my regular day job, I will have enough time to code my dream app, CrastinatePro to replace Clock+.

_jaap_ · 10/14/2010, 12:58 PM

SndDoCmd works well since Classics V2.1.2. I use this function in BellTime for what I call "Beeps". See also the last post of ChasT above.
You can download BellTime here steilberg.eu - Alarm clocks for PDA and mobile phones Don't forget to set Sound=Beeps for every alarm you use.

RJKinsman · 10/14/2010, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _jaap_

SndDoCmd works well since Classics V2.1.2. I use this function in BellTime for what I call "Beeps". See also the last post of ChasT above.
You can download BellTime here [url= - Alarm clocks for PDA and mobile phones[/url] Don't forget to set Sound=Beeps for every alarm you use.

Well, then that must not be the problem with Clock+, 'cause it is mute.

But I will check-out BellTime!

JKM · 10/16/2010, 12:29 AM

I use a software that had been written using the PalmOS 2.0 API and plays simple beep sounds using
the function SndPlaySystemSound
(the only sound function available in the early PalmOS?).

Unfortunately SndPlaySystemSound does not work on Classic
(MotionApps wrote me it is "not fully supported" but I think it does not work at all).
I do not understand why such a simple API function (that can only produce a handful of beep sounds)
is not implemented in Classic?

11/24/2009, 07:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
_jaap_ Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Getting alarm sounds working Classic currently only supports the SndStream API while most apps use SndDoCmd or Midi to make sound. Adding SndDoCmd to Classic would be a great advantage. Some apps would just work out of the box and for other apps adding this function would be simple. SndDoCmd will not give real cool sounds but it's better then no sound at all.
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11/24/2009, 09:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
pb Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 15 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I only bought Pre because Datebk could run on it. I aalso rely heavily on DataViz Word/Excel. I now pay hugely more for contract and have to keep Treo going coz it works. no alarms, v slow to open and other hassles do not appear to be teething problems but insurmountable barriers. I would welcome any workarounds to help me through 'till this thing rreally works. thanks. pb
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11/25/2009, 04:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
_jaap_ Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I can think of a workaround: MotionApps provides a simple "sound app" producing sound as soon as it launches. The user app (clock, databook etc.) just switches to this sound app when an alarm triggers.
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11/25/2009, 02:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChasT Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,524 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 54 Thanked 66 Times in 51 Posts	Sorry, perhaps I over reacted, good to see you are still 'listening' and trying to work out the problems. __________________ Thought of the day : No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway
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11/26/2009, 05:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
RJKinsman Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 389 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 15 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts	Although I'm generally happy with Classic, I am hugely disappointed with the sound issue. One of my favorite apps on my Treo is Clock+ by Bitware Australia. Unfortunately, whatever Clock+ does to make sounds is not supported by Classic.
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11/30/2009, 01:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
hfchow Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 13 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	alarms on vibrate? in addition to sounds, could we also get an alarm to vibrate? btw, i wasn't sure if there was a more logical place to pose this question..
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01/06/2010, 04:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
ChasT Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,524 Likes Received: 2 Thanks: 54 Thanked 66 Times in 51 Posts	I'm now using Classic V2.1.2, but still under webOS 1.3.1 (GSM user) However, the big news is that Beeps now work in the alarms for BellTime The above was on BellTime 1.4. I'm now using the latest version released today, 1.5, and the new feature of keyboard 'letter' launching works fine on the Pre. The other new features are good too. Still not able to use the MIDI sounds yet, but beeps make the BellTime alarms usable now PS Still no vibrate yet __________________ Thought of the day : No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway
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09/30/2010, 06:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
Classic by MotionApps webOS Developer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 350 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 162 Thanked 70 Times in 43 Posts	We did not experience similar behavior nor we have such reports from other users. If you are a Palm OS developer, you can find details about the sound support in Classic in Classic Certification Kit and you can always contact our devs if you have any further questions regarding adjusting your app. __________________ Follow us on Twitter Hang out with us on Facebook Stay Tuned with news and updates on our blog
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09/30/2010, 08:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
RJKinsman Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 389 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 15 Thanked 40 Times in 33 Posts	I'm not a developer, but I suspect one of my favorite apps, Clock+ must use SndDoCmd, 'cause it is completey mute on Classic. Very frustrating. Extremely disappointing, hope it can be fixed in the next release. It was the first thing I reported with MotionApps back in June 2009, and I'm sorry to say, my experience with MotionApps support was not a good one. They would send me e-mails with inane questions like, "is the sound turned on on your device?" Seriously. Well, thankfully, my subsequent experiences with MotionApps have been better. Anyway, the developer of Clock+, Bitware Australia, is long gone, his web URL taken over by squatters. So I have no hope of having it changed to work under Classic. The only hope I have of restoring full functionality for Clock+ is to have Classic fixed to fully emulate sound. I still use Clock+ for the visual reminders under Classic, and I still use Clock+ on my Treo 755P. If I ever lose my regular day job, I will have enough time to code my dream app, CrastinatePro to replace Clock+.
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10/14/2010, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
_jaap_ Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 7 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	SndDoCmd works well since Classics V2.1.2. I use this function in BellTime for what I call "Beeps". See also the last post of ChasT above. You can download BellTime here steilberg.eu - Alarm clocks for PDA and mobile phones Don't forget to set Sound=Beeps for every alarm you use.
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10/16/2010, 12:29 AM	#17 (permalink)
JKM Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 39 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I use a software that had been written using the PalmOS 2.0 API and plays simple beep sounds using the function SndPlaySystemSound (the only sound function available in the early PalmOS?). Unfortunately SndPlaySystemSound does not work on Classic (MotionApps wrote me it is "not fully supported" but I think it does not work at all). I do not understand why such a simple API function (that can only produce a handful of beep sounds) is not implemented in Classic?
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