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what all does Classic do at startup? It seems to open faster in airplane mode, leading me to believe there arenetwork calls being made when wifi or evdo is available.
Originally Posted by TomJ:
That was one of the questions that prompted this thread. It was answered in post #2
Ah, thanks for the answer and for being polite when pointing me to the answer. (Too many are impolite. Your response was very reasonable.)That was one of the questions that prompted this thread. It was answered in post #2
I would *never* have thought to look under "button mapping / assignment" to find the answer to that question! The later responses also explain why the icon is what it is. Now it makes sense, in context.
Originally Posted by Classic by MotionApps:
Yes, this key was Contacts key in Palm OS/Centro, and yes it does serve another function in Classic – installer that checks for and initiates installation files you’ve placed in ClassicApps/Install folder.
Is there a way to load new PRCs while Classic is running and without stopping and restarting Classic? This hadn't even occurred to me as an option. It is even possible? (I guess plugging into USB doesn't stop currently-running apps, does it? Hmm.)Yes, this key was Contacts key in Palm OS/Centro, and yes it does serve another function in Classic – installer that checks for and initiates installation files you’ve placed in ClassicApps/Install folder.
I think checking for new installable files would be better as a menu item. It can't be something that is done very often!
Originally Posted by shopharim:
what all does Classic do at startup? It seems to open faster in airplane mode, leading me to believe there arenetwork calls being made when wifi or evdo is available.
I am also very curious about this, as my Tungsten T|3 starts up near instantaneously, while Classic can take minutes.what all does Classic do at startup? It seems to open faster in airplane mode, leading me to believe there arenetwork calls being made when wifi or evdo is available.
Originally Posted by ekuns:
Is there a way to load new PRCs while Classic is running and without stopping and restarting Classic? This hadn't even occurred to me as an option. It is even possible? (I guess plugging into USB doesn't stop currently-running apps, does it? Hmm.)
I think checking for new installable files would be better as a menu item. It can't be something that is done very often!
This is a "no-go". Even if you load PRCs while Classic is running, you would need to "refresh" it to make it "pick up" the PRCs.Is there a way to load new PRCs while Classic is running and without stopping and restarting Classic? This hadn't even occurred to me as an option. It is even possible? (I guess plugging into USB doesn't stop currently-running apps, does it? Hmm.)
I think checking for new installable files would be better as a menu item. It can't be something that is done very often!
Another menu option. Hm. That is two more clicks to do, and if you do not have any loaded, it does not make the difference. That's why it was made to work like this.
Originally Posted by ekuns:
I am also very curious about this, as my Tungsten T|3 starts up near instantaneously, while Classic can take minutes.
Classic does a bunch of things at startup, but we tried to optimize it in a way it does not take longer than other webOS apps. Depending on the number of apps you have loaded in Classic, it can take longer.I am also very curious about this, as my Tungsten T|3 starts up near instantaneously, while Classic can take minutes.
Originally Posted by Classic by MotionApps:
... Depending on the number of apps you have loaded in Classic, it can take longer.
That's interesting. So I wonder if there is any merit in running the freeware PalmOS program CleanStart to help speed up the Classic starting time?... Depending on the number of apps you have loaded in Classic, it can take longer.
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/1849-1.htm
Originally Posted by ChasT:
That's interesting. So I wonder if there is any merit in running the freeware PalmOS program CleanStart to help speed up the Classic starting time?
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/1849-1.htm
could be, but we did not try it nor we can anticipate if there would be any unwanted consequences. This is another app that should be tested, and if you do so, let us know of results. Be carefully thought, because it seems to mess with some ROM portions you should not mess with.That's interesting. So I wonder if there is any merit in running the freeware PalmOS program CleanStart to help speed up the Classic starting time?
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/1849-1.htm
I have Classic v2.0.1 and webOS 1.3.5. They are playing real nice together. If I update to Classic v2.1.2 and it doesn't work well with my apps. Will I be able to go back to the old version?
Originally Posted by bdhu2001:
I have Classic v2.0.1 and webOS 1.3.5. They are playing real nice together. If I update to Classic v2.1.2 and it doesn't work well with my apps. Will I be able to go back to the old version?
No. At least not in a way we would recommend.I have Classic v2.0.1 and webOS 1.3.5. They are playing real nice together. If I update to Classic v2.1.2 and it doesn't work well with my apps. Will I be able to go back to the old version?
Originally Posted by bdhu2001:
I have Classic v2.0.1 and webOS 1.3.5. They are playing real nice together. If I update to Classic v2.1.2 and it doesn't work well with my apps. Will I be able to go back to the old version?
That combination worked well for me as well, but, after upgrading Classic to the newest version, Classic started to crash again. mostly "...illegal operation".I have Classic v2.0.1 and webOS 1.3.5. They are playing real nice together. If I update to Classic v2.1.2 and it doesn't work well with my apps. Will I be able to go back to the old version?
I don't want to be an early adopter anymore-can't afford it.
Do most of you recommend not "upgrading" to the latest Classic version IF and when I update to webos 1.3.5?
Do most of you recommend not "upgrading" to the latest Classic version IF and when I update to webos 1.3.5?
Okay, I have the dumbest question of all I bet -- how do I find audible in Classic? I haven't been using Classic long, but every time I do I keep meaning to ask here.
Originally Posted by mandystreasures:
Okay, I have the dumbest question of all I bet -- how do I find audible in Classic? I haven't been using Classic long, but every time I do I keep meaning to ask here.
i wanna know that tooOkay, I have the dumbest question of all I bet -- how do I find audible in Classic? I haven't been using Classic long, but every time I do I keep meaning to ask here.
Can I do a search for keywords in my contacts notes Like I did with my treo?
Does classic have a way to do the option/search? the pre doesnt have a search key near option key like treo did
Does classic have a way to do the option/search? the pre doesnt have a search key near option key like treo did
Originally Posted by ETjumps:
Can I do a search for keywords in my contacts notes Like I did with my treo?
No.Can I do a search for keywords in my contacts notes Like I did with my treo?
How do I sync the Classic calendar with my exchange server wirelessly or can I? My user hates the Pre calendar so he has loaded Classic to ease his transition from a Treo but I can't find how to sync the calendar with Exchange.
First, let me apologize if this has been discussed. I really have been reading the posts, but haven't found this (basic?) subject.
First, let me give you a little history about me ...
If you don't want to read all of this, you can skip to the end for my question.
[I got my first smartphone with Sprint in 2000 (6035). Then, I upgraded to an I500. Sprint service is not ideal in my area, so once I was off contract AND phone number portability was available, I switched to Verizon and a Treo 700p. Throughout all of these handhelds I have always used Palm Desktop.
When the Pre was released via Sprint last year, I began my research. I have been (desperately) trying to figure out if I would be able to continue using my Palm Desktop with the Pre. All signs pointed to "NO." Then, when the Pre was released on Verizon, the Verizon Smartphone Guy met with me and my boss so that we could check out the latest smartphones (including the Pre Plus). He seemed pretty knowledgeable, and my business rep had given him a heads up regarding my issues. He immediately showed me Classic, and assured me that I would be able to Hotsync my Palm Desktop with the Pre Plus.
Of course, I don't trust Verizon salespeople. So, I started checking online.
Thanks to the good people at MotionApps and PreCentral, I was reassured that I would indeed be able to Hotsync.]
However, before I pull the trigger on this sweet handheld, I have one more question ...
When you do Hotsync a Palm Pre Plus with Palm Desktop, where do you access the data on the Pre? Will it be in the Pre Contacts, Calendar, etc? Or will I have to access it via Classic Contacts, Calendar, etc?
First, let me give you a little history about me ...
If you don't want to read all of this, you can skip to the end for my question.
[I got my first smartphone with Sprint in 2000 (6035). Then, I upgraded to an I500. Sprint service is not ideal in my area, so once I was off contract AND phone number portability was available, I switched to Verizon and a Treo 700p. Throughout all of these handhelds I have always used Palm Desktop.
When the Pre was released via Sprint last year, I began my research. I have been (desperately) trying to figure out if I would be able to continue using my Palm Desktop with the Pre. All signs pointed to "NO." Then, when the Pre was released on Verizon, the Verizon Smartphone Guy met with me and my boss so that we could check out the latest smartphones (including the Pre Plus). He seemed pretty knowledgeable, and my business rep had given him a heads up regarding my issues. He immediately showed me Classic, and assured me that I would be able to Hotsync my Palm Desktop with the Pre Plus.
Of course, I don't trust Verizon salespeople. So, I started checking online.
Thanks to the good people at MotionApps and PreCentral, I was reassured that I would indeed be able to Hotsync.]
However, before I pull the trigger on this sweet handheld, I have one more question ...
When you do Hotsync a Palm Pre Plus with Palm Desktop, where do you access the data on the Pre? Will it be in the Pre Contacts, Calendar, etc? Or will I have to access it via Classic Contacts, Calendar, etc?
Originally Posted by nsanders:
When you do Hotsync a Palm Pre Plus with Palm Desktop, where do you access the data on the Pre? Will it be in the Pre Contacts, Calendar, etc? Or will I have to access it via Classic Contacts, Calendar, etc?
Two answers:When you do Hotsync a Palm Pre Plus with Palm Desktop, where do you access the data on the Pre? Will it be in the Pre Contacts, Calendar, etc? Or will I have to access it via Classic Contacts, Calendar, etc?
1) You can only do a Palm Hotsync with PalmOS from within MA Classic, and the data will be stuck within Classic and the PalmOS apps therein.
You can get the data out into the 'Clouds' with GooSync and then pull it into your Pre webOS apps.
2) If you want to sync between Palm Desktop and the native Pre webOS apps directly, then you need to use Echo:
Echo is the Palm Desktop synchronization solution for Palm Pre
I've not used Echo myself, but use it's sister programe, PocketMirror, which syncs with Outlook, which works 100%.
Hope that is clear and helps. If not ask more
Thank you so much. That is EXACTLY what I needed to know.
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