Palm Pre, Classic, TomTom

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 05:24 PM

Hi Guy's

I want to ask, seeing as they are launching this Classic emulation software, will it run Tom Tom 6? According to Tom Tom's website, version 6 will run on: Treo 650, Treo 700W, Treo 750V, Treo 680.

So am i right in saying the palm Pre through Classic will also run Tom Tom fine?
This is a big deal for me but it will also mean the Classic software to support bluetooth for me to use my bluetooth receiver, does this Classic emulation software support bluetooth?

dtokarz · 04/29/2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by apolloa

Hi Guy's

I want to ask, seeing as they are launching this Classic emulation software, will it run Tom Tom 6? According to Tom Tom's website, version 6 will run on: Treo 650, Treo 700W, Treo 750V, Treo 680.

So am i right in saying the palm Pre through Classic will also run Tom Tom fine?
This is a big deal for me but it will also mean the Classic software to support bluetooth for me to use my bluetooth receiver, does this Classic emulation software support bluetooth?

I believe Classic does not have access to the GPS chip on the Pre. So no, you won't be able to use it.

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 05:29 PM

Yes but will the Classic emulator access the bluetooth? If it does then I can use my Bluetooth GPS receiver on my keychain.

samkim · 04/29/2009, 05:30 PM

The OP is asking whether Classic can use bluetooth to connect to his own GPS receiver, not the built in GPS chip.

I think that's a question for the developers of Classic, since they'll have to test it regardless of whether it *should* work.

jhoff80 · 04/29/2009, 05:30 PM

I think I remember reading that it can't access Bluetooth either, but I'm not sure.

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 05:38 PM

Hmmm, well I'll live in hope LOL. It doesn't seem like anyone is in a rush to convert their Sat Nav software to WebOS. I see CoPilot has only been tested on Android.

Gekko · 04/29/2009, 05:52 PM

why F with Tom Tom when you got built in modern GPS?

Kyusaku · 04/29/2009, 05:55 PM

MotionApps: More detailed and technical QA about Classic

Q: Will Classic integrate into the webOS device hardware and to what extent?

A: The ability of Classic to integrate with underlying hardware is limited. This means that Classic will not be able to access Bluetooth, wireless modem (phone radio), GPS, light sensors or accelerometer (nor the IR port – because there isn’t any on Pre). One exception to this is the network access which is fully supported. Also, there are some other hardware integration points in Classic: for example a PalmOS application can obtain IMEI, IMSI, ESN and similar identifiers from the modem, device’s serial number and some other information that is typically used by many PalmOS applications for purposes of product registration and licensing. This is done through a standard PalmOS APIs, just like on real PalmOS hardware.

Gekko · 04/29/2009, 05:59 PM

Classic should be a last resort. the only people i can think of that have a legitimate excuse to use Classic are MDs that need to use Epocrates in lieu of a WebOS version. what other app is that critical?

Derek Kessler · 04/29/2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gekko

Classic should be a last resort. the only people i can think of that have a legitimate excuse to use Classic are MDs that need to use Epocrates in lieu of a WebOS version. what other app is that critical?

Documents to Go, but considering that there's no HotSync, it's a completely moot point (what good is its fantastic syncing capability if you can't use it?).

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gekko

why F with Tom Tom when you got built in modern GPS?

Because I use my current phone with turn by turn voice instruction directions through Tom Tom when I'm in my car. Google Maps is pretty useless for car Sat Nav. I don't use it enough really to warrant a permanent Sat Nav system.
Any Sat Nav software would do, Tom Tom, Co Pilot, Route 66 etc. There on other smart phone platforms.

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyusaku

MotionApps: More detailed and technical QA about Classic

Q: Will Classic integrate into the webOS device hardware and to what extent?

A: The ability of Classic to integrate with underlying hardware is limited. This means that Classic will not be able to access Bluetooth, wireless modem (phone radio), GPS, light sensors or accelerometer (nor the IR port – because there isn’t any on Pre). One exception to this is the network access which is fully supported. Also, there are some other hardware integration points in Classic: for example a PalmOS application can obtain IMEI, IMSI, ESN and similar identifiers from the modem, device’s serial number and some other information that is typically used by many PalmOS applications for purposes of product registration and licensing. This is done through a standard PalmOS APIs, just like on real PalmOS hardware.

Yeah thanks buddy, I just found that too.

Gekko · 04/29/2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek Kessler

Documents to Go, but considering that there's no HotSync, it's a completely moot point (what good is its fantastic syncing capability if you can't use it?).

we don't know that for sure yet, silly. either way, you can do drag and drop or use windows briefcase via USB cable to sync your MS Word/Excel docs. simple and easy.

Gekko · 04/29/2009, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apolloa

Because I use my current phone with turn by turn voice instruction directions through Tom Tom when I'm in my car. Google Maps is pretty useless for car Sat Nav. I don't use it enough really to warrant a permanent Sat Nav system.
Any Sat Nav software would do, Tom Tom, Co Pilot, Route 66 etc. There on other smart phone platforms.

Amazon.com: Garmin nüvi 360 3.5-Inch Bluetooth Portable GPS Navigator with Text-To-Speech: Electronics

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gekko

Amazon.com: Garmin nüvi 360 3.5-Inch Bluetooth Portable GPS Navigator with Text-To-Speech: Electronics

That's exactly what I DON'T want. Why have yet another device, I have a keychain GPS that out performs most dedicated units, just want the software on the pre?

DougB541 · 04/29/2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apolloa

Because I use my current phone with turn by turn voice instruction directions through Tom Tom when I'm in my car. Google Maps is pretty useless for car Sat Nav. I don't use it enough really to warrant a permanent Sat Nav system.
Any Sat Nav software would do, Tom Tom, Co Pilot, Route 66 etc. There on other smart phone platforms.

It comes with Sprint navigation with turn by turn directions.

Just use that. I use it with my Curve currently.

Gekko · 04/29/2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB541

It comes with Sprint navigation with turn by turn directions.

Just use that. I use it with my Curve currently.

exactly. and if you want a separate unit for the car, just buy a $143 Garmin Nuvi.

apolloa · 04/29/2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DougB541

It comes with Sprint navigation with turn by turn directions.

Just use that. I use it with my Curve currently.

That would be a very good solution, unfortunately I live in the UK, we don't have Sprint.
I don't think any of the UK operators offer there own Sat Nav solutions. That's pretty good that Sprint do

DougB541 · 04/29/2009, 06:28 PM

Ohhhhh

Well then, I can not help you there haha. Maybe Vodaphone or whoever picks it up out there will have a navigation app with it.

Derek Kessler · 04/29/2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apolloa

That would be a very good solution, unfortunately I live in the UK, we don't have Sprint.
I don't think any of the UK operators offer there own Sat Nav solutions. That's pretty good that Sprint do

Hopefully by the time the Pre is available over there there'll be a GPS navigation application for yay.

04/29/2009, 05:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
apolloa Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Palm Pre, Classic, TomTom Hi Guy's I want to ask, seeing as they are launching this Classic emulation software, will it run Tom Tom 6? According to Tom Tom's website, version 6 will run on: Treo 650, Treo 700W, Treo 750V, Treo 680. So am i right in saying the palm Pre through Classic will also run Tom Tom fine? This is a big deal for me but it will also mean the Classic software to support bluetooth for me to use my bluetooth receiver, does this Classic emulation software support bluetooth?
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04/29/2009, 05:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
apolloa Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Yes but will the Classic emulator access the bluetooth? If it does then I can use my Bluetooth GPS receiver on my keychain.
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04/29/2009, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
samkim Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,233 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 18 Thanked 165 Times in 45 Posts	The OP is asking whether Classic can use bluetooth to connect to his own GPS receiver, not the built in GPS chip. I think that's a question for the developers of Classic, since they'll have to test it regardless of whether it should work.
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04/29/2009, 05:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
jhoff80 Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston-area Posts: 6,973 Likes Received: 116 Thanks: 418 Thanked 1,252 Times in 710 Posts	I think I remember reading that it can't access Bluetooth either, but I'm not sure.
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04/29/2009, 05:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
apolloa Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 33 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hmmm, well I'll live in hope LOL. It doesn't seem like anyone is in a rush to convert their Sat Nav software to WebOS. I see CoPilot has only been tested on Android.
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04/29/2009, 05:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gekko Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,007 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 304 Times in 165 Posts	why F with Tom Tom when you got built in modern GPS?
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04/29/2009, 05:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kyusaku Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,483 Likes Received: 5 Thanks: 92 Thanked 195 Times in 142 Posts	MotionApps: More detailed and technical QA about Classic Q: Will Classic integrate into the webOS device hardware and to what extent? A: The ability of Classic to integrate with underlying hardware is limited. This means that Classic will not be able to access Bluetooth, wireless modem (phone radio), GPS, light sensors or accelerometer (nor the IR port – because there isn’t any on Pre). One exception to this is the network access which is fully supported. Also, there are some other hardware integration points in Classic: for example a PalmOS application can obtain IMEI, IMSI, ESN and similar identifiers from the modem, device’s serial number and some other information that is typically used by many PalmOS applications for purposes of product registration and licensing. This is done through a standard PalmOS APIs, just like on real PalmOS hardware.
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04/29/2009, 05:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gekko Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,007 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 304 Times in 165 Posts	Classic should be a last resort. the only people i can think of that have a legitimate excuse to use Classic are MDs that need to use Epocrates in lieu of a WebOS version. what other app is that critical?
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DougB541 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 761 Likes Received: 0 Thanks: 34 Thanked 116 Times in 62 Posts	Ohhhhh Well then, I can not help you there haha. Maybe Vodaphone or whoever picks it up out there will have a navigation app with it.
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