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    This should help the GOP though

    The US economy is set for a strong rebound in the first quarter of 2006, shaking off the hurricane-related weakness of the fourth quarter, a survey of business economists showed.

    The survey of the National Association of Business Economists called for the economy to expand at a robust 4.5 percent pace in the current quarter -- the fastest since 2003 -- after a disappointing 1.1 percent annualized rate in the fourth quarter.

    And, rememeber, people have short term memory when it comes to elections.
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    GOP party split?

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    In open split with Bush, top US conservative calls for independent mov't

    WASHINGTON (AFP) - The patriarch of US conservatives has urged his followers to halt their financial support of the Republican Party and start an independent movement, signaling a major political shift that could result in heavy losses for the US ruling party in upcoming elections.

    Richard Viguerie, who was instrumental in cementing the winning coalitions behind Ronald Reagan in 1980 and George W. Bush in 2000, declared that conservatives were "downright fed up" with both the president and Republican-controlled Congress.

    "At the very least, conservatives must stop funding the Republican National Committee and other party groups," Viguerie wrote in a lengthy essay in The Washington Post Sunday.

    He suggested conservatives "redirect their anger into building a third force," which he defined as a movement independent of any party, and laying the groundwork for the 2008 election campaign.

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    Is there a problem in the Democrat Party?

    CAUGHT ON TAPE: Dem congressman accepting $100,000 in $100 bills...

    Filing: Tape Shows Lawmaker Taking Money
    May 21 4:35 PM US/Eastern
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    By MATTHEW BARAKAT
    Associated Press Writer


    ALEXANDRIA, Va.


    A congressman under investigation for bribery was caught on videotape accepting $100,000 in $100 bills from an FBI informant whose conversations with the lawmaker also were recorded, according to a court document released Sunday. Agents later found the cash hidden in his freezer.

    At one audiotaped meeting, Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., chuckles about writing in code to keep secret what the government contends was his corrupt role in getting his children a cut of a communications company's deal for work in Africa.



    As Jefferson and the informant passed notes about what percentage the lawmaker's family might receive, the congressman "began laughing and said, 'All these damn notes we're writing to each other as if we're talking, as if the FBI is watching,'" according to the affidavit.

    Jefferson, who represents New Orleans, has not been charged and denies any wrongdoing.

    As for the $100,000, the government says Jefferson got the money in a leather briefcase last July 30 at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Arlington. The plan was for the lawmaker to use the cash to bribe a high-ranking Nigerian official _ the name is blacked out in the court document _ to ensure the success of a business deal in that country, the affidavit said.

    All but $10,000 was recovered on Aug. 3 when the FBI searched Jefferson's home in Washington. The money was stuffed in his freezer, wrapped in $10,000 packs and concealed in food containers and aluminum foil.

    Two of Jefferson's associates have pleaded guilty to bribery-related charges in federal court in Alexandria. One, businessman Vernon Jackson of Louisville, Ky., admitted paying more than $400,000 in bribes to the lawmaker in exchange for his help securing business deals for Jackson's telecommunications company in Nigeria and other African countries.

    The new details about the case emerged after federal agents searched Jefferson's congressional office on Capitol Hill Saturday night and Sunday. The nearly 100-page affidavit for a search warrant, made public Sunday with large portions blacked out, spells out much of the evidence so far.

    The document includes excerpts of conversations between Jefferson and an unidentified business executive from northern Virginia. She agreed to wear a wire after she approached the FBI with complaints that Jefferson and an associate had ripped her off in a business deal.

    Jefferson's lawyer, Robert Trout, contended that the prosecutors' disclosure was "part of a public relations agenda and an attempt to embarrass Congressman Jefferson. The affidavit itself is just one side of the story which has not been tested in court," Trout said in a statement.

    The affidavit says Jefferson is caught on videotape at the Ritz- Carlton as he takes a reddish-brown briefcase from the trunk of the informant's car, slips it into a cloth bag, puts the bag into his 1990 Lincoln Town Car and drives away.

    The $100 bills in the suitcase had the same serial numbers as those found in Jefferson's freezer.

    While the name of the intended recipient of the $100,000 is blacked out, other details in the affidavit indicate he is Abubakar Atiku, Nigeria's vice president. He owns a home in Potomac, Md., that authorities have searched as part of the Jefferson investigation.

    Jefferson assured the FBI informant in their coded conversations that he paid the money to the Nigerian official, even though the money was still in Jefferson's possession when agents searched his home Aug. 3.

    On Aug. 1, two days after Jefferson picked up the $100,000, the informant called Jefferson to ask about the status of "the package."

    Jefferson responded: "I gave him the African art that you gave me and he was very pleased."

    When Jefferson and the informant had dinner at a Washington restaurant on May 12, 2005, the FBI was listening, too. Jefferson indicates he will need an increased stake in the profits of one deal, the affidavit said. Instead of the 7 percent stake originally agreed upon, he writes "18-20" on a piece of paper and passes it to the informant.

    That is when negotiations move ahead and notes go back and forth, ending with Jefferson's laughter about the FBI watching it all.

    Throughout the conversations, Jefferson makes attempts to deflect direct connections to any bribes.

    He tells the informant at one point that money should be paid to businesses operated by his children. "I make a deal for my children. It wouldn't be me," Jefferson said, according to the affidavit.

    In a different conversation, Jefferson seeks to distance himself from bribes that must be paid to Nigerian government officials to facilitate transactions.

    "If he's gotta pay Minister X, we don't want to know. It's not our deal," Jefferson told the witness, according to the affidavit. "We're not paying Minister X a damn thing. That's all, you know, international fraud crap. We're not doing that. We're not doing any of that that gets us (unintelligible)."

    The affidavit also spells out "seven other schemes" in which Jefferson was involved; nearly all were blacked out in the document.

    The Jefferson investigation has provided fodder for Republicans who have suffered black eyes in the investigations of current and former GOP lawmakers, including Tom DeLay and Randy "Duke" Cunningham.

    Jefferson, who has pledged not to resign from Congress in the face of the bribery investigation, speculated about his political future in one of the recorded conversations.

    When the informant asked Jefferson about his political plans, he responded: "I'm gonna get your deal out of the way ... and I probably won't last long after that."
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       #184  
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf
    Is there a problem in the Democrat Party?
    Oh! Good ONE! He(Jefferson) should go. No defense here.

    What about these GOPPERs, what are feelings about these?

    Note: This is an old list, by which I mean the list has gotten larger.


    Source: Here

    Alabama

    Sen. Richard Shelby:
    Recipient of contributions from Abramoff

    Gov. Robert Riley:
    Recipient of contributions from Abramoff. Received contributions from. DeLay’s ARMPAC, linked to Abramoff

    Alaska

    Senate President Ben Stevens (son of US Senate Pro Tem President Ted Stevens):
    Probed for accepting consulting fees from oil services firm Veco. Subject to a recall petition.

    Sen. Ted Stevens:
    Recipient of contributions from Abramoff

    Some of these are Abramoff so I will skip over some of these, but make no mistake they will most likely be investigated for their connection to him.

    Arkansas

    Joshua Dickens, Republican Constable of Faulkner County:
    Severly beat, burned, handcuffed and kidnapped woman he was in a relationship with. Sentenced 5 yrs, could be released within 1 year. After the trial, a 16-year-old girl, also made accusations to the police that she had been sexually assaulted by the young man

    Arizona

    Gov. Evan Mecham:
    Impeached, in 1988, after he was convicted of obstructing an investigation into a death threat allegedly made by an aide. He also failed to report a $350,000 from a contributor to his campaign for Governor as required by campaign laws; loaned himself $80,000 of public money to help his failing car dealership; allegations of covering up a death threat by one of his appointees to a government employee. Was the first US Governor to face removal from office by three means simultaneously: impeachment by the legislature, a scheduled recall election, and a criminal indictment.

    Governor Fife Symington:
    Resigned after being convicted of bank fraud charges. Conviction overturned due to improper dismissal of a juror during deliberations. Pardoned by Clinton, probably so he would stop wasting the Federal government's time and money investigating him.

    Rep. David Burnell Smith:
    Initially admitted overspending in his campaign but now, objects to his charges claiming the election laws are unconstitutional. The matter is going to court on Dec. 6th. 2005 (Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Mark Aceto.)(Has $70,000 cash-in-hand to spend on his defense)
    Disposition: March 2005, Arizona's Citizens Clean Elections Commission voted 5-0 to remove Smith from office because of a campaign finance violation. The commission’s order also directs Smith to return $34,625 in campaign funds and pay a $10,000 fine.

    -snip-

    California

    Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger:
    Ethics probe for accepting salary from two men’s fitness magazines while governor, possible kickback from American Media publisher to Schwarzenegger charity and silence money to a woman who had an extramarital affair with Schwarzenegger. This probe may go criminal.

    Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham:
    Probed for bribery regarding financial ties with and favors for defense firm MZM

    US Congressman David Dreier:
    Closeted homosexual Republican who oppose civil rights for gay people

    Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a California assemblyman:
    Charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography

    Nicholas Elizondo(Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation) Bakersfield, CA:
    Molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison

    Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline:
    Placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography

    Colorado

    Larry D Floyd (R-Denton County Constable):
    Arrested charged with one count of soliciting for child prostitution, three counts of enticement of a child and three counts of attempted sexual assault on a child

    Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative:
    fired after child pornography was found in his possession

    Colorado Republican Party activist Randal David Ankeney:
    charged in a second sexual-assault incident, following his July arrest involving a 14-year-old girl he had met in an Internet chat room.

    Connecticut

    Gov. John Rowland:
    Convicted, racketeering enterprise, imprisoned 2004

    Peter N. Ellef, Mr. Rowland's co-chief of staff:
    Pleaded guilty to conspiring to commit bribery

    Philip Giordano, former Republican mayor of Waterbury, CT:
    Convicted of forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him. Sentenced to 37 years

    Larry Giordano (R- former Mayor of Waterbury):
    Sexually abused 2 girls

    Republican legislator Peter Dibble:
    Pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl

    Delaware
    Attorney General Jane Brady:
    Accused of helping MBNA Bank of Wilmington skirt campaign finance laws.

    DC

    Jack Abramoff, GOP lobbyist:
    Indicted, wire fraud, conspiracy

    Adam Kidan, DC Dial-a-Mattress franchise in DC and Abramoff associate:
    Indicted, wire fraud, conspiracy

    Michael Scanlon, former chief of staff to Tom DeLay:
    Being probed for involvement in Indian casino scandal with Abramoff, Kidan, and DeLay. Indicted Nov. 18, 2005 for conspiracy to defraud Indian tribes. Pleaded guilty Nov. 21

    Steve Rosen, American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC):
    Indicted for criminal conspiracy involving classified national security information

    Keith Weismann, AIPAC:
    Indicted for criminal conspiracy involving classified national security information

    Larry Franklin, Colonel, USAF Reserves, Dept. of Defense:
    Indicted for criminal conspiracy involving classified national security information

    Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President’s Chief of Staff:
    Probed for illegal disclosure of CIA classified information. Indicted on 5 counts: Obstruction of justice, making false statements and perjury

    White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove:
    Probed for illegal disclosure of CIA classified information.

    David H. Safavian, Head of Procurement Policy, Office of Management and Budget, former Chief of Staff, General Service Administration:
    Arrested by FBI for making false statements about helping Jack Abramoff acquire two Federal properties in DC and Maryland.

    Ex-Corporation for Public Broadcasting Chairman and current Broadcasting Board of Governors member Kenneth Tomlinson:
    Under investigation for violating the Public Broadcasting Act

    Patricia Harrison, President Corporation for Public Broadcasting:
    Probed for violating Public Broadcasting Act

    Vice President **** Cheney:
    Investigated for criminal conspiracy in divulging the identity of covert CIA agent

    President George W. Bush:
    Probed in Abramoff scandal for accepting bags of illegal campaign cash from Seminole casino interests in Florida

    Matthew Glavin, president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation. Glavin, the legal beagle who’d led major ‘morality’ campaigns against President Bill Clinton, now joins Paulk and other such creeps in the Hall of Hypocrites:
    Arrested multiple times for public indeceny. resign last week as president and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation after having been twice charged with public indecency in a Chattahoochee River park a popular spot for men who regale in outdoor same-sex cruising

    Florida

    NAACP vs. GOP Election(Nov 7, 2005) A lawsuit filed by civil rights groups who contend black voters were disenfranchised last November won't come to a quick resolution:
    U.S. District Judge Alan Gold has denied motions by Secretary of State Katherine Harris to dismiss the suit and by a county elections supervisor for a summary judgment. The judge's order was filed Tuesday

    Rep. Katherine Harris, US Senate candidate:
    Probed for campaign donations from MZM, Inc. (related to Duke Cunningham probe)

    Rep. Tom Feeney:
    Recipient of contributions from Abramoff. Probed for corporate ties to Yang Enterprises, involved in over billing state of Florida. Feeney was Jeb Bush’s 1994 running mate for Lt. Gov. And alleged 'vote rigging', investigation pending by US House of Reps

    Rush Limbaugh, a conservative talk show host. Allegedly 'doctor shopped' for pills. He claims he was being blackmailed by his housekeeper about his addiction to pain killers:
    ongoing investigation

    Miami City Commissioner Arthur Teele:
    indicted on 26 counts of fraud and money laundering (suicide)

    Chris Hill, a Florida businessman, to whom the National Republican Congress Committee, or NRCC, awarded a “Republican of the Year Award”:
    Accepted a plea bargain, agreeing to 14 months in a minimum security prison camp at Elin Air Force Base in Florida, plus five years probation. Hill also suffered a $500,000 fine, along with the loss of his warehouse building and manufacturing equipment.
    The NRCC rescinded the award after learning that Hill was facing federal charges related to drug paraphernalia. The NRCC then awarded Mark Grethen, a Virginia businessman, who couldnt show up for his awards dinner because he was serving time for multiple sex crimes against children

    John Burt (FL)-Anti-Abortion Activist:
    convicted last year of molesting a 15-year-old resident at Our Father's House, which he and his wife operated near Milton

    Howard Scott Heldreth, a Republican anti-abortion activist:
    Convicted child ****** in Florida

    Georgia

    Richard Leonard, former manager of Linda Schrenko Campaign:
    Pleads guilty on attempted witness tampering

    Linda Schrenko, Georgia School Superintendent:
    Indicted on federal charges of stealing taxpayer money

    Governor Sonny Perdue:
    Fined for Ethics Violations, the first time a sitting governor has ever been fined since the commission was created in the 1970s

    Former Republican state representative Robin Williams:
    Charged in 30-count indictment for conspiracy, money laundering, health care fraud and more

    Hawaii

    New Hawaii PAC and House GOP PAC:
    Campaign violations filed against a number of GOP candidates for the state legislature and US House for skirting spending limits.

    Dalton Tanonaka, former Lt. gubernatorial and congressional candidate:
    Under FEC investigation for disguising and failing to report campaign loans. Also investigated for possible illegal foreign funding from Hong Kong and Japan.

    State Rep. and House Minority Leader Galen Fox:
    Convicted on federal charges of fondling a woman on a Honolulu to Los Angeles commercial flight

    Former Hawaii County Councilman Keola Childs:
    Pleaded guilty in Kona Circuit Court to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child last year

    Rep. Brian Blundell, R-Maui:
    Was convicted of sexual assault in the fourth degree for fondling an undercover male police office in a Waikiki restroom and lost his re-election in 2004 as a result

    -snip-

    Illinois

    House Speaker Dennis Hastert:
    Probed for accepting money from Turkey.

    -snip-

    Republican National Treasurer Bob Kjellander:
    Under Federal probe for steering investment contracts to Illinois Teachers Retirement Fund.

    Former House Leader State Rep. Lee Daniels (Elmhurst):
    Under Federal investigation for misuse of state employees for political activity and state contract kickbacks

    Indiana

    Gov. Mitch Daniels:
    Under investigation for soliciting campaign donations in return for INDOT (Indiana Dept. of Transportation contracts)

    Thomas Sharp, INDOT Commissioner
    Under investigation for soliciting campaign donations in return for INDOT (Indiana Dept. of Transportation contracts)

    Jim Kittle, GOP state chairman:
    Under investigation for soliciting campaign donations in return for INDOT (Indiana Dept. of Transportation contracts)

    Mark Harris, Republican city councilman who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer,":
    Convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison

    Iowa

    Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor in DES MOINES, Iowa, Introduced by Bush on the campaign trail and promoted his policies:
    married father of four turned himself into police, charged with the sexual exploitation of a child

    -snip-

    Kansas

    -snip-

    Adam Taff:
    2004 congressional candidate (KS-3), indicted for campaign violations amnd wire fraud.

    Kentucky

    Gov. Ernie Fletcher:
    Criminal probe in a state employees’ merit system scandal. Received contributions from. DeLay’s ARMPAC, linked to Abramoff.

    Transportation Commissioner Dan Druen:
    Merit system scandal, witness tampering. Indicted.

    Deputy Personnel Secretary Bob Wilson:

    Darrell Brock, Chairman of Kentucky GOP:

    Gov. Personnel Adviser Basil Turbyfill:

    Gov. Personnel Adviser Basil Turbyfill

    Transportation Secretary ill Nighbert

    **** Murgatroyd, Gov. Deputy Chief of Staff

    Jim Adams, Deputy Transportation Secretary

    Cory Meadows, Executive Director, Transportation Dept

    All above: Merit system scandal. Indicted.

    Environmental Protection Commissioner Lloyd Cress:
    Probed in merit system scandal

    Kenneth Day, a convicted felon and Republican county election commissioner :
    Pleaded guilty to heading the drug ring from his Clay County pawnshop

    Bobby Stumbo, Former Floyd County republican leader:
    Charged with sexually abusing a five year old boy

    Maine

    Merrill Robert Barter(R-County Commissioner):
    Pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy

    Republican Senate candidate, John Hathaway, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old sitter

    Massachusetts

    Gov. Mitt Romney’s Executive Office of Environmental Affairs:
    Under ethics cloud for awarding a $10,000 contract to conservative Boston Herald columnist to write columns supportive of Romney’s policies.

    Lawrence Novak, Vice Chair, state GOP:
    Arrested by FBI for drug money laundering

    Just A Hypocrite, Arthur Finkelstein (MA)- Republican Political Strategist Consultant, Head of Polling Firm, ]Arthur J. Finkelstein and Associates:
    Made a career of promoting anti-gay Republicans like former North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms, New York Governor George E. Pataki and former New York Senator Alfonse M. D'Amato, has announced that he has married his male partner in gay-friendly Massachusetts

    Michigan

    Steve Rice City Councilman and former Mayor of Sterling Heights, Republican:
    Charged with possession of cocaine, a felony. Crystal meth was found on his housemate, Jeremy Burns

    Minnesota

    Ron Eibensteiner, Minnesota Republican Party Chairman:
    Eibensteiner is accused of helping American Bankers Insurance Co. of Miami make illegal corporate contributions in Minnesota. He also is accused of violating another law by soliciting and accepting donations from an insurance company

    Jon Grunseth(former Republican candidate for Governor):
    Withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter

    -snip-

    Missouri

    Rep. Roy Blunt, House Majority Leader:
    Investigated for trading illegal PAC money with DeLay through Blunt's Rely on Your Beliefs Fund. Received Indian casino money from tribes represented by Abramoff.

    Ronnie Gene DeShon, 50, of Gallatin, Mo., superintendent of the Pattonsburg, Missouri R-II School District:
    Pleaded guilty in federal court today to embezzling more than $844,000 from the school district. The court released DeShon on his own recognizance

    Thomas J. Noonan(R), deputy mayor of Kirkwood, MO:
    was charged with possession and attempted possession of a controlled substance

    Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official:
    Arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet

    Montana

    Richard A. Dasen Sr.,Businessman, Christian Financial Counseling, Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups:
    Found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dansen, 62, told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

    -snip-

    New Hampshire

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    House Speaker Gene Chandler:
    Campaign contributions violations

    New Jersey

    GOP State Chairman Tim Wilson:
    Probed for his firm receiving $2.7 million from the Burlington County Bridge Commission

    -snip-

    New York

    Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro and US Senate candidate:
    Probed for campaign donations from mobsters. Her husband served a year in prison for tax evasion.

    -snip-

    North Carolina

    Rep. Charles Taylor:
    Probed for ownership of shady Russian bank – whose other major investor is a former KGB general. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff

    Hayes Martin, Taylor Campaign Treasurer:
    Indicted, fraud and money laundering

    -snip-

    Ohio

    Gov. Bob Taft, Misuse of state funds/ethics violations:
    Convicted, four first degree misdemeanors, pleaded no contest (admission of guilt). $4000 fine and public apology, two Federal Grand Juries, one state Grand Jury still investigating Taft.

    Thomas Noe, Bush-Cheney 04 campaign chair, NW Ohio; Turnpike Commissioner; University Regent:
    Misuse of state funds for rare coin fund. Indicted by Federal grand jury, arrested in Florida.

    Bernadette Noe, Thomas Noe’s wife; chair Lucas County GOP; chair Lucas Co. Board of Elections:
    Misuse of state funds

    Brian Hicks, Taft chief of staff, member Ohio University Board of Trustees:
    Convicted

    Cherie Carroll, Taft Chief of Staff Executive Secretary:
    Convicted

    Rep. Bob Ney:
    Being probed for involvement with Abramoff, Kidan, and DeLay, Indian casino money laundering. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff and Kidan. Indictment may be imminent.

    Rep. Jean Schmidt:
    Probe of financial ties to Games, Inc., and proposal to put Ohio State Lottery on the Internet. Received contributions from. DeLay’s ARMPAC, linked to Abramoff

    Douglas Moormann, Gov. Taft's Executive Assistant for Business and Industry:
    Under criminal investigation for accepting loan from Noe

    Oregon

    State Rep. Dan Doyle, a Salem Republican, resigned after starting his third term in the Oregon House because of widening investigations into irregularities on his campaign finance reports:
    Doyle pleaded guilty to 11 felony counts of lying on his reports and was sentenced to 10 months in jail Thursday for filing false election campaign finance reports

    Bob Packwood, Senator (R-Ore.), resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment:
    Resigned in 1995 under a threat of public senate hearings related to 10 female ex-staffers accusing him of sexual harassment


    -snip-

    Pennsylvania

    Rep. Don Sherwood:
    Investigated by DC police for assaulting and choking a 29-year old Maryland woman

    Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman :
    Convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl

    Judge Mark Pazuhanich(R-Monroe County):
    Pleaded 'No Contest' for indecent assault, corrupting a minor and endangering the welfare of a child

    John Peterson, Congressman (R-Pa):
    Accused of sexual harassment and creation of a hostile work environment by six women. Peterson has refused to admit a crime, saying only "I may have been an excessive hugger."

    Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. (R-City Councilman):
    Pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison

    Michael Dructor‚ Republican candidate for North Wales Borough Mayor‚ Pennsylvania:
    Accused of hitting and choking a woman at his Montgomery Township...The woman accused Dructor of hitting her in the head‚ arms and waist‚ ripping her clothing off and choking her after an argument that began around midnight‚ according to the affidavit of probable cause filed in district court

    -snip-

    Puerto Rico

    Puerto Rican New Progressive Party (GOP affiliate party):
    Paid Abramoff $400,000 for lobbying for 1998 statehood referendum

    Edison Misla Aldarondo(R-Speaker of the State House of Reps):
    Sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17

    Rhode Island

    Former House candidate (2002) Mike Battles:
    Firm, Custer Battles, disbarred from Iraq contracts after allegations of over charging and money laundering

    Providence Mayor Vince Cianci:
    Imprisoned in 2002 for 5 years.

    -snip-
    South Carolina

    Will Folks (SC)-Spokesman for Governor Mark Sanford:
    Arrested on domestic abuse charges

    South Dakota

    Rep. Bill Janklow:
    Guilty, second degree manslaughter, imprisoned. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff

    -snip-

    Tennessee

    -snip-

    Sen. Bill Frist:
    Under Securities and Exchange Commission investigation for insider trading on his Hospital Corporation of America (HCA) stock

    Keith Westmoreland (TN)-State Rep R-Kingsport:
    arrested last week in Florida on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 and is free on $3,500 bond, Walton County, Fla., Sheriff Ralph Johnson said yesterday

    Texas

    Rep. Tom DeLay, House Majority Leader:
    Probed for campaign finance fraud, ties to Abramoff/Kidan, Saipan sweat shops. Grand Jury, Travis County prosecutor, and House Ethics Committee probing DeLay. Indicted by Travis County District Attorney for 1 count of criminal conspiracy and 2 counts of money laundering. Arrested and booked at Harris County jail October 20, 2005. Recipient of contributions from Abramoff

    Jim Ellis, Director Americans for a Republican Majority (ARMPAC) PAC tied to DeLay and Abramoff:
    Indicted

    John Colyandro, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), DeLay associate:
    Indicted

    Warren RoBold, Lobbyist and DeLay associate:
    Indicted

    House Speaker Tom Craddick:
    Probed for campaign violations involving TRMPAC and DeLay

    Sam Walls, candidate for Texas House:
    Photos of him wearing women’s clothes surfaced in the 2004 runoff campaign

    -snip-

    Rep. Kevin Brady:
    Recipient of $10,000 from ARMPAC in 2003. Arrested for DWI in South Dakota.

    Rep. Pete Sessions:
    Probed for receiving money from casino Indian tribes represented by Abramoff

    Rick Roach, West Texas Republican district attorney who was elected in 2000 after running a "strong anti-drug campaign." According to the Washington Times, he was "once publicly praised for his efforts to stamp out narcotics in his part of the Panhandle." :
    In 2005 FBI agents confiscated two handguns from Roach's briefcase, before raiding his home and discovering "35 more guns, along with a cache of cocaine, methamphetamines, marijuana, scales and syringes."


    -snip-

    Vermont

    Gov. Jim Douglas:
    Opposition to universal health care in Vermont tied to huge contributions from insurance industry.

    Virginia

    Rep. Virgil Goode:
    Probed for contributions from MZM, Inc. (related to Duke Cunningham probe)

    Edmund Matricardi III, former executive director of the Republican Party of Virginia:
    Guilty in 2003 to a single federal count of intercepting a wire communication, a week before he was to go on trial for eavesdropping on Democratic conference calls...charged with five counts stemming from his listening to and taping two different conference calls in which Democrats discussed strategy in their lawsuit against the new legislative districts Republicans drew in 2001

    Claudia Tucker, chief of staff to former state House Speaker S. Vance Wilkins Jr. listened in on 1, of the 5, Democratic Party Conference calls with Edmund Matricardi III:
    Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor

    -snip-

    Washington

    Spokane Mayor Jim West:
    Under Federal and state investigation for abusing his office to obtain sexual favors and soliciting sex over the Internet from underage males.

    Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington:
    Pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison

    -snip-
    Do NOT get me started on a tit for tat list of corruption, YOU will lose. What I have posted here is just the start, if you wish.

    P.S. I have already written this guy asking him to resign, plus quite a few folks I know have done the same. What have you done in reaction to some (R)s having these types of things hanging over their head? Oh, that is right, NOTHING.
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       #185  
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeElmendorf
    Is there a problem in the Democrat Party?

    CAUGHT ON TAPE: Dem congressman accepting $100,000 in $100 bills...

    Filing: Tape Shows Lawmaker Taking Money
    May 21 4:35 PM US/Eastern
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    By MATTHEW BARAKAT
    Associated Press Writer


    ALEXANDRIA, Va.


    A congressman under investigation for bribery was caught on videotape accepting $100,000 in $100 bills from an FBI informant whose conversations with the lawmaker also were recorded, according to a court document released Sunday. Agents later found the cash hidden in his freezer.

    At one audiotaped meeting, Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., chuckles about writing in code to keep secret what the government contends was his corrupt role in getting his children a cut of a communications company's deal for work in Africa.



    As Jefferson and the informant passed notes about what percentage the lawmaker's family might receive, the congressman "began laughing and said, 'All these damn notes we're writing to each other as if we're talking, as if the FBI is watching,'" according to the affidavit.

    Jefferson, who represents New Orleans, has not been charged and denies any wrongdoing.

    As for the $100,000, the government says Jefferson got the money in a leather briefcase last July 30 at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Arlington. The plan was for the lawmaker to use the cash to bribe a high-ranking Nigerian official _ the name is blacked out in the court document _ to ensure the success of a business deal in that country, the affidavit said.

    All but $10,000 was recovered on Aug. 3 when the FBI searched Jefferson's home in Washington. The money was stuffed in his freezer, wrapped in $10,000 packs and concealed in food containers and aluminum foil.

    Two of Jefferson's associates have pleaded guilty to bribery-related charges in federal court in Alexandria. One, businessman Vernon Jackson of Louisville, Ky., admitted paying more than $400,000 in bribes to the lawmaker in exchange for his help securing business deals for Jackson's telecommunications company in Nigeria and other African countries.

    The new details about the case emerged after federal agents searched Jefferson's congressional office on Capitol Hill Saturday night and Sunday. The nearly 100-page affidavit for a search warrant, made public Sunday with large portions blacked out, spells out much of the evidence so far.

    The document includes excerpts of conversations between Jefferson and an unidentified business executive from northern Virginia. She agreed to wear a wire after she approached the FBI with complaints that Jefferson and an associate had ripped her off in a business deal.

    Jefferson's lawyer, Robert Trout, contended that the prosecutors' disclosure was "part of a public relations agenda and an attempt to embarrass Congressman Jefferson. The affidavit itself is just one side of the story which has not been tested in court," Trout said in a statement.

    The affidavit says Jefferson is caught on videotape at the Ritz- Carlton as he takes a reddish-brown briefcase from the trunk of the informant's car, slips it into a cloth bag, puts the bag into his 1990 Lincoln Town Car and drives away.

    The $100 bills in the suitcase had the same serial numbers as those found in Jefferson's freezer.

    While the name of the intended recipient of the $100,000 is blacked out, other details in the affidavit indicate he is Abubakar Atiku, Nigeria's vice president. He owns a home in Potomac, Md., that authorities have searched as part of the Jefferson investigation.

    Jefferson assured the FBI informant in their coded conversations that he paid the money to the Nigerian official, even though the money was still in Jefferson's possession when agents searched his home Aug. 3.

    On Aug. 1, two days after Jefferson picked up the $100,000, the informant called Jefferson to ask about the status of "the package."

    Jefferson responded: "I gave him the African art that you gave me and he was very pleased."

    When Jefferson and the informant had dinner at a Washington restaurant on May 12, 2005, the FBI was listening, too. Jefferson indicates he will need an increased stake in the profits of one deal, the affidavit said. Instead of the 7 percent stake originally agreed upon, he writes "18-20" on a piece of paper and passes it to the informant.

    That is when negotiations move ahead and notes go back and forth, ending with Jefferson's laughter about the FBI watching it all.

    Throughout the conversations, Jefferson makes attempts to deflect direct connections to any bribes.

    He tells the informant at one point that money should be paid to businesses operated by his children. "I make a deal for my children. It wouldn't be me," Jefferson said, according to the affidavit.

    In a different conversation, Jefferson seeks to distance himself from bribes that must be paid to Nigerian government officials to facilitate transactions.

    "If he's gotta pay Minister X, we don't want to know. It's not our deal," Jefferson told the witness, according to the affidavit. "We're not paying Minister X a damn thing. That's all, you know, international fraud crap. We're not doing that. We're not doing any of that that gets us (unintelligible)."

    The affidavit also spells out "seven other schemes" in which Jefferson was involved; nearly all were blacked out in the document.

    The Jefferson investigation has provided fodder for Republicans who have suffered black eyes in the investigations of current and former GOP lawmakers, including Tom DeLay and Randy "Duke" Cunningham.

    Jefferson, who has pledged not to resign from Congress in the face of the bribery investigation, speculated about his political future in one of the recorded conversations.

    When the informant asked Jefferson about his political plans, he responded: "I'm gonna get your deal out of the way ... and I probably won't last long after that."
    On a gentler note. If he is found guilty by jury i hope they throw his a** jail for a long time. Corrupt Pols do no one any good. Plus, I wonder if this has any relation to when he used the NG to go to his house after Katrina? Hmmm.
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       #187  
    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    Interesting. Bookmarked.

    P.S. How have you been? Haven't seen you around in a while.
  7. #188  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Oh! Good ONE! He(Jefferson) should go. No defense here.

    What about these GOPPERs, what are feelings about these?

    Note: This is an old list, by which I mean the list has gotten larger.

    Do NOT get me started on a tit for tat list of corruption, YOU will lose. What I have posted here is just the start, if you wish.
    As I posted in post #62 & 138 (actually posts 57 thru 64, then 84 & 85 & 144-146, 150) corruption is NOT a party issue. It is about personal accountability. I have no problem focusing on the illegal activities of politicians. I only have an issue pointing the figure on one side, either side, and ignoring the issues of the other party due to party loyality. It does not matter if the finger is pointing to the Reps or the Dems.....it is simply wrong, biased, and purposely promoting a one sided ignorant argument.

    Again it is NOT a Rep isolated issue. It is NOT a Dem isolated issue. There is no such thing as "Well they do it more, so just ignore all the illegal stuff we are doing" argument.

    Are you able to recognize and include in your posts that the Dems need to cleam up their act just as much as the Dems?
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       #189  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal

    Are you able to recognize and include in your posts that the Dems need to cleam up their act just as much as the Dems?
    Hobbes the (R)s are in much worse shape than the (D)s, that is a fact and you should know it. By trying to say that the (D)s need to clean up as much the (R)s is like saying, deep whole house cleaning is the same as sweeping the floor.

    My posts state what I feel about corrupt pols. I have written Jefferson(D) and asked him to resign. He is a disgrace to our whole system of government. And if found guilty by jury I hope he goes to jail.

    But there is no way the 2 parties are on the same level on this issue. One simple fact makes it impossible, the Repubs are in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    ...
    But there is no way the 2 parties are on the same level on this issue. One simple fact makes it impossible, the Repubs are in power.
    exactly !!

    I've said this previously (probably in connection with that Texas Bugkiller) ---
    that when a group in its arrogance, and hypocrisy grabs absolute power, it simultaneusly is awarded with absolute responsibility and accountability.

    You can't compare the misdeed of the choirboy, with that of his Priest.

    Anyone who attempts to do so is knowingly misleading themselves.
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  10. #191  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Hobbes the (R)s are in much worse shape than the (D)s, that is a fact and you should know it.
    Did I just say that:
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    There is no such thing as "Well they do it more, so just ignore all the illegal stuff we are doing" argument.
    You always fall back on this argument and it does not hold. It only shows your political bias.

    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    By trying to say that the need to clean up as much the (R)s is like saying deep whole house cleaning is the same as sweeping the floor.
    Unless you can excuse the all of the examples listed "in posts post #62 & 138 (actually posts 57 thru 64, then 84 & 85 & 144-146, 150", then yes I can say that both parties need to be cleaned up. Again, does the accountability of ones illegal acts weigh only by the deeds of the opposing side? Or are illegal deeds held against the law no matter what the other person did?

    I thought after looking at the long list of Rep deeds and at the long list of Dem acts, a statement that both parties need to be cleaned up is not unreasonable, and I think to say other wise shows political biased due to nothing more than personal loyalties.

    I have written Jefferson(D) and asked him to resign. He is a disgrace to our whole system of government. And if found guilty by jury I hope he goes to jail.
    See, there is still hope for you yet!


    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    But there is no way the 2 parties are on the same level on this issue. One simple fact makes it impossible, the Repubs are in power.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barye
    You can't compare the misdeed of the choirboy, with that of his Priest.

    Anyone who attempts to do so is knowingly misleading themselves.
    Being in power or being the one wanting to be in power is not the issue. No matter how much you would like to believe and argue against the fact........If it is illegal, it is illegal. Period. No matter the party. No matter how much worse the guy across the aisle illegal acts are in comparison, it is still illegal and as such demands the same accountability. Both parties do have power and are accountable to those they represent. Does the severity or accountability of the act by a member of the party with the majority in the house or senate differ with the same act by a member of the party with the minority that wants to be among the majority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barye
    when a group in its arrogance, and hypocrisy grabs absolute power, it simultaneusly is awarded with absolute responsibility and accountability.
    First of all, I assume that when you say "in its arrogance, and hypocrisy grabs absolute power" you mean that they were voted in by the American people.......or was their an official coup that I am unaware of? If there was a coup, please cite! ................... Otherwise I assume this was just a factless claim made out of politically blinded loyality and blinded deep personal hatred toward anything other than Dems.

    But if we take the political biased and loyalist arguments are taken at face value and say that those in Power are the ones that need to be held to much higher level of accountability than the same illegal act committed by one among the minority party, then if the Dems take control in the coming months, then will it matter that the Dems have a long laundry list of rotten deeds under their belt as well......or is it excused then because they are dems?

    Again, I feel the this argument is a another slight of hand move to distract the attention from the illegal acts of one party to focus mostly on the other due to political loyalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal

    Being in power or being the one wanting to be in power is not the issue. No matter how much you would like to believe and argue against the fact........If it is illegal, it is illegal. Period. No matter the party. No matter how much worse the guy across the aisle illegal acts are in comparison, it is still illegal and as such demands the same accountability. Both parties do have power and are accountable to those they represent. Does the severity or accountability of the act by a member of the party with the majority in the house or senate differ with the same act by a member of the party with the minority that wants to be among the majority?

    First of all, I assume that when you say "in its arrogance, and hypocrisy grabs absolute power" you mean that they were voted in by the American people.......or was their an official coup that I am unaware of? If there was a coup, please cite! Otherwise I assume this was just a factless claim made out of politically blinded loyality and blinded deep personal hatred toward anything other than Dems.

    But if we take the political biased and loyalist arguments are taken at face value and say that those in Power are the ones that need to be held to much higher level of accountability than the same illegal act committed by one among the minority party, then if the Dems take control in the coming months, then will it matter that the Dems have a long laundry list of rotten deeds under their belt as well......or is it excused then because they are dems? ...
    If by some miracle the Dems gain control of The Senate, The House, The Presidency, and The Courts -- I would agree that they would then need to be judged by the special standard to which I hold the repugs.

    you cannot reasonably apply this standard retrospectively when they were powerless -- a petty individual act of greed like that of the probably corrupt rep. Jefferson may perhaps reflect on the criminality of politicians in general, but it has no larger meaning in terms of his party.

    When Cheney made secret deals with the oil cartel and the Bugkiller made sordid deals with the K Street lobbyists -- inherently these were the product of the monopoly of power of the repugs. Its impossible to seperate the specifics of the repugs corruption, from the nature of their absolute power.

    Without that absolute power they would not have had the arrogance to do anywhere near as much evil.
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  12. #193  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Interesting. Bookmarked.

    P.S. How have you been? Haven't seen you around in a while.
    New job. Lots of travel.
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       #194  
    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    New job. Lots of travel.
    You enjoying it or is it a pain in the a**?
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    Loving it. I'll be going overseas in December. (The job is with the Department of Defense.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    Loving it. I'll be going overseas in December. (The job is with the Department of Defense.)
    Glad you are enjoying it. nothing worse than being at a job you hate. DoD seems to be right 'down your barrel'. Good luck and be safe.
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    No way to do this job and stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    Without that absolute power they would not have had the arrogance to do anywhere near as much evil.
    I totally disagree, and think this is were the fault in your argument lies.

    I do not disagree that having power in all 3 branches can be an overwhelming amount of temptation that can, and I think has, lead to corruption. We can see this now with the Rep and we also saw this with the Dems, which is one reason that lead to the Reps taking back control. 2 perfect examples from both parties to illustrate this point.

    But I also see that those who had power and had it taken away by someone they hate with their whole heart and wants to take it back by any means possible, is also just as corrupting....in fact may be more motivating to bend the rules and the laws.

    My point of view is this. One is in power and has proven to participate in more than their share of illegal activities. The other side is trying with all it's might to get into power (and may succeed within this next year) and will bring all of their illegal baggage with them.

    Voter fraud is wrong, no matter if you are the incumbent or the challenger. Illegal fund raising is Illegal, no matter if you are the party in power or the one trying to get it back. Illegal benefits from lobbiests are Illegal, no matter if you are Dem or Rep. So again, illegal is illegal. Wrong is Wrong. No party distinctions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    Voter fraud is wrong, no matter if you are the incumbent or the challenger. Illegal fund raising is Illegal, no matter if you are the party in power or the one trying to get it back. Illegal benefits from lobbiests are Illegal, no matter if you are Dem or Rep. So again, illegal is illegal. Wrong is Wrong. No party distinctions.
    we agree on this part.

    Where we differ is in the depth of accountability and responsibility that accrues from power.

    To continue with the choirboy/Priest metaphor -- if a choirboy were to steal, vandalize church property -- or even commit abuse against a fellow choirboy -- would those crimes be the equal to the same crimes committed by a Priest against the choirboy, over whom the Priest wielded complete power and responsibility ??

    Is there a difference when a common criminal commits murder or steals, versus if a cop commits murder or steals ??

    The repugs manipulated the system (I believe unlawfully, but a separate issue) to consolidate all power, leverage, and money unto themselves.

    Unprecedentedly, they gained control of all levers of government power -- The White House, The Senate, The House, The Courts -- even most of the media.

    They did so with a self righteous piety, and a confidence that they would never again be in the minority.

    There is no equivalence to the crimes committed by those with such absolute power, and those who had none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    To continue with the choirboy/Priest metaphor -- if a choirboy were to steal, vandalize church property -- or even commit abuse against a fellow choirboy -- would those crimes be the equal to the same crimes committed by a Priest against the choirboy, over whom the Priest wielded complete power and responsibility ??

    Is there a difference when a common criminal commits murder or steals, versus if a cop commits murder or steals ??
    None of these apply. You are trying to compare metaphors with examples of those who have no power to those who have power. This I think is an insight into you flawed perspective of the reality of the situation.

    If we were going to use your metaphors it would be like saying the Dems have no power and the Reps have all power. This is false. The Reps have a majority vote. That does not make the Dems powerless. And to think so, I believe is a little naive, or purposely closing your eyes to the fact that the Dems still do have a lot of power for the purpose of finger pointing without personal accountability.

    We are NOT talking about those with absolutely power and those who are helpless with no authority whatsoever (the only arguable exception to this would be the Exec Branch). We are talking about Congress members and Senators. We are talking about those with power and those with less power. But BOTH have power.......unless you are saying being a Senator or a member of Congress is meaningless and only a empty seat if you are not the majority. I would think Boxer, Reed, Howard Dean, Hillary would all be very insulted by this idea that they are powerless warm bodies only there to fill an empty seat and pretend to represent their constituents. They certainly have power and weld it whenever they can, just like any other politician would.

    I am still amazed at what I thought was a such a simple concept when I first posted it on this thread that is apparently soooo hard to understand and accept, let alone have to be defended:
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    How about saying corruption among politicians no matter the party. I think it is funny to watch the corruption stone throwing over the fence when half the time they don't make it over and it bounces back hitting the side that originally threw it in the head.
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