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  1. #781  
    Quote Originally Posted by whmurray
    ATM, lest you think that I am unjustifiably harsh, please read this page. Read it in the recognition that the American people are very forgiving of their leaders and particularly loyal to Mr. Bush, the hero of 9/11.
    Don't think your being harsh, I feel early on the Mayor (now has seen the light) and the Governor (still whining a bit) were demanding respect by portraying themselves as the victims. Never took an ounce of blame.
  2. #782  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Don't think your being harsh, I feel early on the Mayor (now has seen the light) and the Governor (still whining a bit) were demanding respect by portraying themselves as the victims. Never took an ounce of blame.
    References that I try to use in situations like this one:

    * "It is amazing what can be accomplished when it ceases to matter who gets the credit."

    * It is more important to fix the problem than the blame.

    * Given two statements of a problem, prefer the one that lends itself to a solution; given two solutions, choose the one in one's own hands.

    In the midst of a crisis it is hard to stay focused. It is difficult not to see one's self as a victim. It is difficult not to blame others. We call those who can do difficult things "heroes."
  3. #783  
    Quote Originally Posted by whmurray
    References that I try to use in situations like this one:

    * "It is amazing what can be accomplished when it ceases to matter who gets the credit."

    * It is more important to fix the problem than the blame.

    * Given two statements of a problem, prefer the one that lends itself to a solution; given two solutions, choose the one in one's own hands.

    In the midst of a crisis it is hard to stay focused. It is difficult not to see one's self as a victim. It is difficult not to blame others. We call those who can do difficult things "heroes."
    If only the democrats and the liberal media had your references, I wouldn't be so frustrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    If only the democrats and the liberal media had your references, I wouldn't be so frustrated.
    See what I Mean.

    [In the midst of a crisis it is hard to stay focused. It is difficult not to see one's self as a victim. It is difficult not to blame others. We call those who can do difficult things "heroes."]
  5. #785  
    Quote Originally Posted by whmurray
    References that I try to use in situations like this one:

    * "It is amazing what can be accomplished when it ceases to matter who gets the credit."

    * It is more important to fix the problem than the blame.

    * Given two statements of a problem, prefer the one that lends itself to a solution; given two solutions, choose the one in one's own hands.

    In the midst of a crisis it is hard to stay focused. It is difficult not to see one's self as a victim. It is difficult not to blame others. We call those who can do difficult things "heroes."
    Another one that serves me well is: "Never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by stupidity." This one seems appropriate for this crisis.
  6. #786  
    Quote Originally Posted by whmurray
    See what I Mean.

    [In the midst of a crisis it is hard to stay focused. It is difficult not to see one's self as a victim. It is difficult not to blame others. We call those who can do difficult things "heroes."]
    Okay Murray, you're a hero.
  7.    #787  
    In the midst of all of this, I wanted to go volunteer so badly to help out, but as many of you know, I have a situation at home that currently eliminates that possibility. I donated money, as did a lot of my fellow t|cers, but I wanted to do more. So I created a simple site for families with lost loved ones. If anyone knows of anyone that is looking for lost family, please forward it to them. I have contacted the major networks about it as well, so hopefully we can all help to make a difference, even if we can't be there. The site is:

    http://www.operationreunite.us
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    http://leninology.blogspot.com/2005/...g-to-plan.html Blog article on Ray Nagin, not very favorable

    http://hairytruth.blogspot.com/ another blog
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy650
    In the midst of all of this, I wanted to go volunteer so badly to help out, but as many of you know, I have a situation at home that currently eliminates that possibility. I donated money, as did a lot of my fellow t|cers, but I wanted to do more. So I created a simple site for families with lost loved ones. If anyone knows of anyone that is looking for lost family, please forward it to them. I have contacted the major networks about it as well, so hopefully we can all help to make a difference, even if we can't be there. The site is:

    http://www.operationreunite.us
    Have you tried contacting any media outlets?

    And by the way very nice.
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    Yeah, I've emailed them. But I'm afraid I may lack the clout to get it noticed. Any ideas?
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    another article: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/9/5/133054/4269


    The Governor of Louisiana declared a State of Emergency on 26 August 2005, which is a pre-requisite for invoking the Stafford Act:


    Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco today issued Proclamation No. 48 KBB 2005, declaring a state of emergency for the state Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina poses an imminent threat, carrying severe storms, high winds, and torrential rain that may cause flooding and damage to private property and public facilities, and threaten the safety and security of the citizens of the state of Louisiana The state of emergency extends from Friday, August 26, 2005, through Sunday, September 25, 2005, unless terminated sooner.


    The Governor, per the National Response Plan, followed this request with a letter on Saturday, 27 August 2005, invoking the Stafford Act. Note this letter inludes specific requests for aid:



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    #792  
    Things that make you go HMMM. This is a very good read and I suggest you goto to the website to read the whole article and not just what I sniped here.

    Source: Herald-Sun

    3 Duke students tell of 'disgraceful' scene

    By Ray Gronberg : The Herald-Sun
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    Sep 4, 2005 : 9:36 pm ET

    DURHAM -- A trio of Duke University sophomores say they drove to New Orleans late last week, posed as journalists to slip inside the hurricane-soaked city twice, and evacuated seven people who weren't receiving help from authorities.

    The group, led by South Carolina native Sonny Byrd, say they also managed to drive all the way to the New Orleans Convention Center, where they encountered scenes early Saturday evening that they say were disgraceful.

    "We found it absolutely incredible that the authorities had no way to get there for four or five days, that they didn't go in and help these people, and we made it in a two-wheel-drive Hyundai," said Hans Buder, who made the trip with his roommate Byrd and another student, David Hankla.

    -snip-

    At 2 p.m., the trio decided to head for New Orleans, Buder said. After looking around, they swiped an Associated Press identification and one of the TV station's crew shirts, and found a Kinko's where they could make copies of the ID.

    -snip-

    The trio dodged downed trees and power lines until they happened upon Magazine Street, which runs in a semi-circle around the city parallel to and about four blocks north of the Mississippi River.

    -snip-

    "Anyone who knows that area, if you had a bus, it would take you no more than 20 minutes to drive in with a bus and get these people out," Buder said. "They sat there for four or five days with no food, no water, babies getting raped in the bathrooms, there were murders, nobody was doing anything for these people. And we just drove right in, really disgraceful. I don't want to get too fired up with the rhetoric, but some blame needs to be placed somewhere."

    -snip-
  13. #793  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Things that make you go HMMM. This is a very good read and I suggest you goto to the website to read the whole article and not just what I sniped here.
    Not that I'm not a trusting soul... but I'm curious where those three were able to get gasoline en route through Alabama, Mississippi and southern Louisana. The story contains no reference to fuel. Assuming this story is true, it's great that they were able to get 7 people out. Not sure what wider point it proves, though. They were able to get in on Friday after the major routes had been cleared by the National Guard. I'm no expert, but I'm guessing the logistics concerns of three guys driving a Hyundai are slightly less complex than those of the Guard.
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    #794  
    Is the White House being vindictive?

    Did the WH try to pull a Snubjob? We will see in the coming future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Is the White House being vindictive?

    Did the WH try to pull a Snubjob? We will see in the coming future.
    broken link
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    #796  
    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    broken link
    Fixed.
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    NRG: Wow. Do I want to ask how in the world you have all that information?
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  18. #798  
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy650
    NRG: Wow. Do I want to ask how in the world you have all that information?
    My reaction too. Do not know when I might need it but I sure as hell have kept a copy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Is the White House being vindictive?

    Did the WH try to pull a Snubjob? We will see in the coming future.
    Explains a lot. This report validates my observation of last night that the Governor and POTUS were engaged in a game of "mine is bigger than yours." People who aspire to greatness cannot engage in such games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy650
    NRG: Wow. Do I want to ask how in the world you have all that information?

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