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  1.    #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by hofo_mofo
    in about 1 - 2 yrs from now the name of Iraq will probably change from IRAQ to URAQ
    and then into Uranus ...
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    Iraq's Kurds may drop secession demand

    BAGHDAD (AP) Talks on Iraq's new constitution have stalled over the role of Islam and the distribution of the country's oil wealth, negotiators said Saturday. The leadership of the country's Kurdish minority said it may drop its contentious demand for the right to secede.

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  3.    #23  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal


    Iraq's Kurds may drop secession demand

    are they in the "do anything to get out by next November 6th" mode ?


    U.S. concedes ground to Islamists on Iraqi law

    By Luke Baker and Michael Georgy
    Sat Aug 20

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. diplomats have conceded ground to Islamists on the role of religion in Iraq, negotiators said on Saturday as they raced to meet a 48-hour deadline to draft a constitution under intense U.S. pressure...

    ...a secular Kurdish politician said Kurds opposed making Islam "the," not "a," main source of law -- changing current wording -- and subjecting all legislation to a religious test.

    "We understand the Americans have sided with the Shi'ites," he said. "It's shocking. It doesn't fit American values. They have spent so much blood and money here, only to back the creation of an Islamist state ... I can't believe that's what the Americans really want or what the American people want." ...

    ...
    The Kurdish negotiator rushed to make clear his outrage at a deal on Islam: "We don't want dictatorship of any kind, including any religious dictatorship.

    "Perhaps the Americans are negotiating to get a deal at any cost, but we will not accept a constitution at any cost," he said, adding that he believed Shi'ite leaders had used the precedent of Afghanistan to win the ambassador's support. ...

    an Iranian Iraq...
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  4.    #24  
    some of the centrifical forces pulling apart Iraq are described in this article from the Wash. Post:


    Militias Wresting Control Across Iraq's North and South
    Residents Tell of Growing Climate of Fear


    Anthony Shadid and Steve Fainaru
    Washington Post August 20

    BASRA, Iraq -- Shiite and Kurdish militias, often operating as part of Iraqi government security forces, have carried out a wave of abductions, assassinations and other acts of intimidation, consolidating their control over territory across northern and southern Iraq and deepening the country's divide along ethnic and sectarian lines, according to political leaders, families of the victims, human rights activists and Iraqi officials. ...

    ...militias and the Shiite and Kurdish parties that control them are creating their own institutions of authority, unaccountable to elected governments, the activists and officials said. In Basra in the south, dominated by the Shiites, and Mosul in the north, ruled by the Kurds, as well as cities and villages around them, many residents say they are powerless before the growing sway of the militias, which instill a climate of fear that many see as redolent of the era of former president Saddam Hussein.
    ...The province's governor said in an interview that Shiite militias have penetrated the police force; an Iraqi official estimated that as many as 90 percent of officers were loyal to religious parties.

    ...critics charge that they are wresting control over security forces to claim de facto territory and authority, effectively partitioning Iraq even as representatives in Baghdad struggle to negotiate a permanent constitution. ...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082000940.html
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