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  1.    #1  
    Could Bill Clinton have stopped the War on Terror from ever even happening? Was this info passed onto the Bush Admin with any priority?

    Here is a link to the actual documents that took 4 years to obtain: http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2005/Usama.pdf

    Here are three articles relating to this:

    Clinton State Department Documents Outlined bin Laden Threat to the United States in Summer 1996
    “Top Secret” Analysis Warned Clinton Administration
    "[bin Laden] has Wherewithal to Strike U.S. Interests"

    The documents, authored by the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research, discuss bin Laden’s travels, his prolonged stay in Afghanistan, financial networks, anti-Western threats in press interviews, ties to the Khobar Towers bombing and bin Laden’s “emboldened” threats against U.S. interests.

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    request filed with the State Department on December 11, 2001 concerning the government of Sudan’s reported offer to share intelligence files on Osama bin Laden. The Clinton administration also reportedly rebuffed an offer by Sudanese officials to turn bin Laden himself over to the U.S.

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    The documents predict that even if bin Laden were forced to keep on the move, it would prove no more than an inconvenience since, “. . . his informal and transnational network of businesses and associates remains resilient.” The report goes on to explain that bin Ladin on the move, “. . .can retain the capability to support individuals and groups who have the motive and wherewithal to attack U.S. interests almost worldwide.”

    “This is not a case of hindsight being 20/20,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “These documents prove the Clinton administration knew the danger Osama bin Laden posed to the United States back in 1996 and yet failed to take any meaningful action to stop him.”


    State Dept. Says It Warned About bin Laden in 1996
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/17/in...rtner=homepage

    Two years after the State Department's warning, with Mr. bin Laden firmly entrenched in Afghanistan and overseeing terrorist training and financing operations, Al Qaeda struck two American embassies in East Africa, leading to failed military attempts by the Clinton administration to capture or kill him in Afghanistan. Three years later, on Sept. 11, 2001, Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in an operation overseen from the base in Afghanistan.

    Critics of the Clinton administration have accused it of ignoring the threat posed by Mr. bin Laden in the mid-1990's while he was still in Sudan, and they point to claims by some Sudanese officials that they offered to turn him over to the Americans before ultimately expelling him in 1996 under international pressure. But Clinton administration diplomats have adamantly denied that they received such an offer, and the Sept. 11 commission concluded in one of its staff reports that it had "not found any reliable evidence to support the Sudanese claim."

    The newly declassified documents do not directly address the question of whether Sudan ever offered to turn over Mr. bin Laden. But the documents go well beyond previous news and historical accounts in detailing the Clinton administration's active monitoring of Mr. bin Laden's movements and the realization that his move to Afghanistan could make him an even greater national security threat.

    Several former senior officials in the Clinton administration did not return phone calls this week seeking comment on the newly declassified documents.

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    Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group, was highly critical of President Clinton during his two terms in office. The group has also been critical of some Bush administration actions after the Sept. 11 attacks, releasing documents in March that detailed government efforts to facilitate flights out of the United States for dozens of well-connected Saudis just days after the attacks.

    Documents Show State Department Warned Clinton About Bin Laden
    Wednesday, August 17, 2005
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166004,00.html

    The documents also show that intelligence analysts even then believed that bin Laden may have played a role in the Khobar Towers bombings just a month earlier. In that attack, a truck bomb destroyed an apartment building in the Khobar Towers (search) military housing complex near Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing 20 people, mostly U.S. service members, and wounding 372.

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    It was two years after this State Department warning that bin Laden's Al Qaeda (search) terrorists attacked two American embassies in East Africa, which led to failed attempts by the Clinton administration to capture or kill him in Afghanistan. Bin Laden remained in Afghanistan when Al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

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    A senior State Department official said Wednesday that officials in the Clinton administration should be the ones to discuss specific decisions taken during that time.

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    But Jed Babbin, a Defense Department official who served in the administration of George H.W. Bush, said Clinton mistook bin Laden as a law enforcement problem, not a terrorist threat.

    "They were looking at this and Sandy Berger, the national security adviser, and the president, everybody was looking at this as — 'are we gathering information that we could actually indict this guy or what we can actually do with him?' They really didn't have a clue as to how to pull the levels of American power to deal with the problem of terrorism," Babbin said.
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    Here is another very interesting article that may go right along with this thread of whether the War on Terror could have been prevented:


    Unit Barred from informing FBI of 9/11 terrorist

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...d_x.htm?csp=15

    WASHINGTON (AP) — An Army intelligence officer said Wednesday he does not believe the 9/11 commission pressed hard enough for documentation of claims that military intelligence found a U.S.-based terrorist cell that included Mohamed Atta, who turned out to be the leader of the Sept. 11 attacks, prior to the terrorist strikes.

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    Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer said the small intelligence unit, called "Able Danger," had identified Atta and three of the other future Sept. 11 hijackers as al-Qaeda members by mid-2000. He said military lawyers stopped the unit from sharing the information with the FBI.

    The commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks left the Able Danger claims out of its official report.

    "I'm told confidently by the person who did move the material over that the 9/11 commission received two briefcase-size containers of documents," Shaffer said in an interview, part of which was aired by Fox News Tuesday night. "I can tell you for a fact that would not be ... one-20th of the information that Able Danger consisted of during the time we spent."

    Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees, has said the Sept. 11 commission did not adequately investigate the claim that four of the hijackers had been identified more than a year before the attacks.

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    Shaffer rejected that remark. "Leaving a project targeting al-Qaeda as a global threat a year before we were attacked by al-Qaeda is equivalent to having an investigation of Pearl Harbor and leaving somehow out the Japanese," he said.
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    Accepting what you're saying without question, please tell me how this would have avoided the invasion of Iraq?
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    It took four years, but it was known even before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Accepting what you're saying without question
    Accepting without Question? My opening sentence was a question........."Could Bill Clinton have stopped the War on Terror from ever even happening?". I don't know how else to define that as a ....well....a question. I think this should be not be taken without question, but looked into. And I think it is a fair question to ask. If not, what was the 9/11 commission all about? Simply trying to find answers to what lead up the attack and what went wrong that let it happen. And take steps to prevent the same errors, oversights, political haggling, etc...from letting it happen again.

    please tell me how this would have avoided the invasion of Iraq?
    Who said anything about Iraq? Please don't use turn table tactics to hijack the thread to yet another Iraq thread. That question is more appropriate in one of the other 23 Iraq threads. This is talking about what lead up to the War in Terror to begin with.....what lead up to 9/11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    If not, what was the 9/11 commission all about? Simply trying to find answers to what lead up the attack and what went wrong that let it happen. And take steps to prevent the same errors, oversights, political haggling, etc...from letting it happen again.
    I'll tell you what it is...

    Oodles of money spent to take quite a bit information we already had, via one form or another, along with information someone kept secret, and pool it all together in one large report. Information that, had it been evaluated at the time, could have led us down different paths. Coupled with information that is skewed.

    See: Warren Commission
    See: The Starr Report

    Am I saying the reports are false? Nope, and I wouldn't know. But just the same, we have spent another truckload of money and a great deal wasn't necessary. The known facts were already published years ago (dig up some old newspaper clippings). The unknown - how much of it holds water and how much lends merit?

    Mix that with political motivation and we have a report - which anyone can read and decipher any way they wish.

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    Hobbes -- the more fair interpretation is that Clinton's intelligence staff was far smarter and more insightful than juniors.

    These were memos written before Bin Laden had committed the greatest horrors for which he became infamous.

    The allegation that Sudan offered us Bin Laden has been disproven, and it is my understanding that we had no prosecutable criminality against him here in the U.S. in any case.

    Responding to our pressure to get rid of him, the Sudanese eventually sent him to Afganistan -- after Saudia Arabia refused (despite our request) to take him back.

    (The move of Bin Laden to Afhanistan was seen as an oppurtunity by the CIA -- it was a place where thought they could more easily hunt him down with extreme prejudice --
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    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    Hobbes – the more fair interpretation is that Clinton's intelligence staff was far smarter and more insightful than juniors.
    Cite. This sounds like another totally Biased, if it has anything to do with Bush it cannot be right, unfounded statement.

    These were memos written before Bin Laden had committed the greatest horrors for which he became infamous.
    How great or horrible of a tragedy does it have to be to go after a terrorist? How many times does he have to attack the US, both over seas.....and on our soil? How many people have to die before we take action? Under Bill Clinton bin Laden attacked the US:
    • After the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    • After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel.
    • After the 1996 al-Khobar towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel.
    • After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 257 and injured 5,000.
    • After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured three US sailors.
    • AQ plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport in December 1999. Foiled by an attentive border patrol officer along the Canadian border.

    After every single attack listed above President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    The allegation that Sudan offered us Bin Laden has been disproven,
    Sudan made the claims. No corroborating evidence was found. Which makes it a stretch to claim disproven. Maybe a technicality, depending on if any evidence does surface or not.

    and it is my understanding that we had no prosecutable criminality against him here in the U.S. in any case.
    There are ways around that.....if that is even true.....both legally and illegally. One of the obvious ways is going after him aggressively and handing him over to one of the Arab countries that would love to prosecute him for us.

    The move of Bin Laden to Afhanistan was seen as an oppurtunity by the CIA -- it was a place where thought they could more easily hunt him down with extreme prejudice --
    The key word there is could....but Clinton never did. And Bush didn't start to even try until after 9/11.

    What I find interesting is thinking of what the Left would say if Bill pulled out this document, and cited all the attacks bin Laden has made on the US throughout the world and on our soil and then went after bin Laden. Then think what the Left would have said if Bush prior to 9/11 had pulled out that document and cited all attacks bin Laden has made on the US throughout the world and on our soil and then went after bin Laden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    Cite. This sounds like another totally Biased, if it has anything to do with Bush it cannot be right, unfounded statement.

    How great or horrible of a tragedy does it have to be to go after a terrorist? How many times does he have to attack the US, both over seas.....and on our soil? How many people have to die before we take action? Under Bill Clinton OBL attacked the US:
    • After the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
    • After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel.
    • After the 1996 al-Khobar towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel.
    • After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 257 and injured 5,000.
    • After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured three US sailors.
    • AQ plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport in December 1999. Foiled by an attentive border patrol officer along the Canadian border.

    After every single attack listed above President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    If you want to discuss the origins of suicide terrorism -- unpunished suicide terrorism -- suicide terrorism that was richly rewarded -- you'll of course want to start with ronny raygun's heroic reaction to the HUNDREDS of americans (civilian and Marines) who were slaughtered in Lebanon. Those killers went unpunished as we slunk away -- though we of course then sold them arms in exchange for hostages....).

    (this terrorism was sponsored by Iran, not Syria btw)



    There are ways around that.....if that is even true.....both legally and illegally. One of the obvious ways is going after him aggressively and handing him over to one of the Arab countries that would love to prosecute him for us.
    Saudia Arabia was the only place other than Afganistan were he could really be sent by the Sudanese. It was his home country -- and he had already threatened the Saudi royal family and done some terrorism there.

    But the Saudis were determined to not take him back. OBL was (and probabbly still is) much more popular among the average Saudi than are the Royal fatsos who rule Saudi Arabia.

    OBL had shown himself to be pious and ascetic -- and heroic against the russians. The Saudi people would likely have rioted if he been jailed there.

    Clinton understood the OBL threat incredibly well -- years before that threat manifested itself to others.

    When he was leaving office, Clinton repeatedly attempted to get junior to understand how important a threat OBL was -- Richard Clarke repeated it as well.

    But these bushleague morons knew better -- it was more important to vacation in Crawford than to learn more about terrorism and OBL, more important to jog in Crawford than to hear the FBI reports about suspious arabs studying at flight schools


    (BTW: The perpetrators of the World Trade Ceter bombing -- not really tied to OBL -- were caught & convicted under Clinton.)
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    BARYE, you have already admitted that you could never admit that Bush or Reagon has ever done one single thing right in their political carreers and during the WOT and that you possess an undying and continually regenerated hatred towards Bush.

    It appears that you have the opposite view concerning Clinton, in other words that there is not a single thing that he could have done to help prevent 9/11 from ever happening. Is he your idol and best example of the perfect President?

    It appears that your arguments are largely based on your personal emotions and not capable...or probably more accurate....not willing to accept anything to the contrary of your perfect politically slanted dream world.

    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    BTW: The perpetrators of the World Trade Ceter bombing -- not really tied to OBL -- were caught & convicted under Clinton.
    --Feb. 26, 1993
    The first World Trade Center attack and the first terrorist attack on America. A bomb built in nearby Jersey City is driven into an underground garage at the trade center and detonated, killing six and wounding 1,500. Yousef, nephew of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, masterminds the attack, working with nearly a dozen local Muslims. While U.S. officials disagree on whether Osama bin Laden instituted the attack and Yousef denies he has met bin Laden, the CIA later learns that Yousef stayed in a bin Laden-owned guest house in Pakistan both before and after the attacks.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4677978/
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    In light of the other information, I found this interesting:


    Timeline of al-Qaida statements
    Messages via audio and video tapes since 1995

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4686034/

    --November 1996
    Gwynne Roberts conducts an interview of bin Laden for the British documentary program “Dispatches.” Bin Laden threatens to wage an Islamic holy war against the United States and its allies if Washington does not remove its troops from the Gulf region.

    --Aug. 10, 1997
    In a video interview with CNN's Peter Arnett, bin Laden praises the bombing of the Khobar Towers U.S. barracks in Saudi Arabia. He tells Arnett that "if the American government is serious about avoiding explosions inside the U.S., then let it stop provoking the feelings of 1,250 million Muslims."

    --Feb. 28, 1998
    In a fatwa entitled, "Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders World Islamic Front Statement," bin Laden announces the formation of a coalition of Islamic groups, including Egyptian Islamic Jihad led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, and calls for the killing of Americans worldwide. In the fatwa, bin Laden states: "To kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque [Jerusalem] and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim." Al-Zawahiri becomes No. 2 in al-Qaida and a number of Egyptians prominent in EIJ become al-Qaida leaders.

    --May 28, 1998 [Contemporaneous]
    In a video interview with ABC's John Miller, bin Laden praises Ramzi Yousef and Wali Khan Amin Shah, convicted in the "Day of Hate" airliner bombing plot -- which sought to blow up 11 U.S. commercial aircraft in one day -- saying "America will see many youths who will follow Ramzi Yousef." Bin Laden also praises the bombers of the Khobar Towers. "We predict a black day for America and the end of the United States as United States ... Allah willing." Bin Laden’s military commander, Mohammed Atef, also is seen on the tape.

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    --June 10, 1999
    In a broadcast of new elements from the January interview, al-Jazeera shows bin Laden telling their interviewer that American civilians are prime targets because they support killing Muslims through their tax payments. The interview represents his broadest rationale for killing Americans. “Jihad now knows that with few weapons and people they destroyed the biggest war machine in Afghanistan. In our opinion, a superpower means nothing. The U.S. is much weaker than the Soviet Union was. We've learned from our Somali brothers how weak and cowardly American soldiers are. They lost only 80 people and they fled. “I look at the great men who attacked Khobar and Riyadh with great respect, those who made the explosions in Riyadh, Khobar, East Africa and young Palestinians who are giving the Israelis a lesson.

    “A man is considered a fighter whether he carries a gun or pays taxes to help kill us. So when they say bin Laden kills civilians, who are they killing in Palestine? Children. Our aim is that every American man is an enemy whether he kills us or pays taxes to kill us. The U.S. has a double standard...75 percent of the American people support Clinton hitting Saddam Hussein. It is a nation where the president’s rating goes up when he kills civilians.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Accepting what you're saying without question, please tell me how this would have avoided the invasion of Iraq?
    Like a snowball rollling down a mountain getting bigger and bigger, appears Clinton could of squashed that small snowball at the top of the mountain.
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    All this is like saying Bush could have prevented 9/11 had he paid attention to an August 6th PDB "Bin Laden Determined to strike in the U.S."
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    I would not disagree that Bush could have taken action as well, as I have stated above and in other threads. It is just that until the 9/11 attacks just months after Bush took office........a huge majority of these events took place under Clinton with 8 years to agressively react or to be proactive with the historical attacks on our soil and over seas attacks against the US in combination with the intel available at the time, and the statements of threats by AQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Like a snowball rollling down a mountain getting bigger and bigger, appears Clinton could of squashed that small snowball at the top of the mountain.

    Advance -- what you wrote applies a Quantum times more forcefully to junior.

    Zarqawi, the al Queda connected butcher who has been the most destructive and lethal of the foriegn fighters in Iraq -- was originally based in Northern, Kurdish controlled Iraq.

    When the Kurds pleaded with junior for some modest help to eliminate Zarqawi (then still a minor force, operating within a small geographic area) junior refused. He wanted to be able to maintain the lie that Saddam allowed terrorists to operate in Iraq -- even though it was obvious that Saddam could not control this region.


    NY Times -- April 2003

    Instruction and Methods From Al Qaeda Took Root in North Iraq

    By C. J. CHIVERS NY Times
    DARGA SHARKHAN, Iraq, April 22, 2003

    The two-inch-thick manual on killing, discovered in an abandoned bomb laboratory here early this month, offers instruction in Al Qaeda's array of lethal demolition skills.

    With a text in Arabic complemented by diagrams taken from American military manuals, the document offers lessons for rigging explosives, setting and concealing booby traps, and wiring an alarm clock to detonate a bomb.

    The book is a photocopy of one volume of the Jihad Encyclopedia, the technical manual that American officials have said is used by Al Qaeda in its war against the West. Other copies were found in terrorist training camps and guest houses in Afghanistan after the defeat of the Taliban in 2001.

    This copy, though, was found not in Afghanistan but in this valley in the Kurdish enclave in northern Iraq. It was recovered by Kurdish security officials accompanied by a reporter in a training center operated by Ansar al-Islam, a local armed party...

    Ansar established itself late in 2001, as the war in Afghanistan was winding down, uniting previously splintered Islamic parties. It occupied a border region in northeastern Iraq that has been out of Saddam Hussein's control since 1991.

    The group waged war against the zone's Kurdish government, destabilizing the region with assination attempts, guerrilla attacks and suicide bombings. The United States has pointed to its activities as one justification for the war in Iraq.American and Kurdish officials say the group received support from Al Qaeda and coordinated activities through Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian identified by the United States as a lieutenant of Osama bin Laden...

    ...No clear evidence has emerged of operational links between Ansar and Mr. Hussein's government...

    ...Kurdish officials had estimated that Ansar al-Islam had about 650 members, but American officials now say they believe it had grown to 1,000 or more. The passports collected show that many new international fighters entered on Iranian tourist or pilgrimage visas...


    Al Qaeda Plans A Front in Iraq

    By Peter Finn and Susan Schmidt
    Washington Post
    September 7, 2003; Page A01

    BERLIN -- Two years after the attacks on the United States, Osama bin Laden's leadership cadre has been isolated and weakened and is increasingly reliant on the violent actions of local radicals around the world to maintain its profile. But the al Qaeda network is determined to open a new front in Iraq to sustain itself as the vanguard of radical Islamic groups fighting holy war, according to European, American and Arab intelligence sources.

    The turn toward Iraq was made in February, as U.S. forces were preparing to attack, the sources said. Two seasoned operatives met at a safe house in eastern Iran. One of them was Mohammed Ibrahim Makawi, the military chief of al Qaeda, who is better known as Saif Adel. He welcomed a guest, Abu Musab Zarqawi, who had recently fled Iraq's Kurdish northern region in anticipation of the U.S. targeting of a radical group with which he was affiliated, Arab intelligence sources said.

    The encounter resulted in the dispatch of Zarqawi to become al Qaeda's man in Iraq, opening a new chapter in the history of the group and a serious threat to American forces there.

    "The monster is already near you," said one Arab official who is familiar with the intelligence and who spoke on condition that he not be identified by name or nationality. "I don't know if you can kill it."

    The official added: "Iraq is the new battleground. It is the perfect place. It will be the perfect place."

    After the fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan, the locus of al Qaeda's degraded leadership moved to Iran.
    The Iranian security services, which answer to the country's powerful Islamic clerics, protected the leadership, including Adel and a son of bin Laden's, Saad, as well as other senior figures, according to the intelligence officials...
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    Also, the "War on Terror" is a moronic phrase equal to "War on Drugs". Neither are winable, and are things you always POLICE against.

    My point inn bringing up Iraq is that it is being frmaed by this administration as the "War on Terror" and was absolutely no threat to the U.S. Afghanistan however was the source of the attack and we have yet to resolve that.
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    BARYE....we have already acknowledge that Bush could have taken steps as well. That is not the question..........the question is what could of or should of Clinton done with the events, intel, and threats at the time that could have prevented the WOT started by AQ to even begin. Or did he do everything he could have to protected us against AQ.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Also, the "War on Terror" is a moronic phrase equal to "War on Drugs". Neither are winable, and are things you always POLICE against.
    I think that this was what Clinton did....and it didn't seem to help much, but only provide terrorist orgs time to train, fund themselves, and plan attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    My point inn bringing up Iraq is that it is being frmaed by this administration as the "War on Terror" and was absolutely no threat to the U.S. Afghanistan however was the source of the attack and we have yet to resolve that.
    I understand your point that you are trying to make....but this thread is focusing on PRE 9/11 not POST 9/11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    BARYE....we have already acknowledge that Bush could have taken steps as well. That is not the question..........the question is what could of or should of Clinton done with the events, intel, and threats at the time that could have prevented the WOT started by AQ to even begin. Or did he do everything he could have to protected us against AQ.....

    in the context of that time what President Clinton did was extraordinary.

    While repugnicans were sniffing around for Monica's dirty laundry, Bin Laden was hardly on the shouting head cable shows of this country.

    repugnicans did EVERYTHING they could to undermine and weaken Clinton. They'd hold hearings on CRAP like "travelgate", whitewater, the "MISSING" Rose Law Firm records -- all to embarrass and harrass Clinton. His Presidency was one long repungnican agonizing ordeal.

    That he acheived so much, and was so aware of Bin Laden under those circumstances, is truly heroic !
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    I remember when this came out:

    Quote Originally Posted by NY Times
    August 21, 1998


    U.S. Cruise Missiles Strike Sudan and Afghan Targets Tied to Terrorist Network

    By JAMES BENNET

    ASHINGTON -- Dozens of U.S. cruise missiles struck targets in Afghanistan and the Sudan on Thursday in what President Clinton described as an act of self-defense against imminent terrorist plots and of retribution for the bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa two weeks ago.

    The strikes were launched from ships in the Arabian and Red Seas at dusk. It was not immediately clear whether the raids were a military success. Pentagon officials said that no Americans died but that they had no immediate estimate of other casualties or damage. Early Friday, an Islamic press agency reported 15 deaths from the bombings in Afghanistan.

    With about 75 missiles timed to explode simultaneously in unsuspecting countries on two continents, the operation was the most formidable U.S. military assault ever against a private sponsor of terrorism.

    -snip-


    Clinton's stone-faced appearance marked his emergence from two days of shelter from a howling political storm. He returned to the White House on Thursday afternoon from vacation on Martha's Vineyard, where he was trying to repair family ties damaged by his admission Monday of an intimate relationship with a White House intern.

    -snip-

    But while the Republican leadership rallied to support the raids, some members of Congress reacted suspiciously, noting that the action followed by three days Clinton's acknowledgment to the public and a grand jury of his relationship with former intern Monica Lewinsky.

    http://partners.nytimes.com/library/...attack-us.html
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