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    Look how much I paid for gas today

    At least it's still cheaper per gallon than bottled water (well in individual size bottles that is.)
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    What you don't realize is that you still pay a bargain compared to the rest of the world..
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    How much do you pay for gas, ToolkiT?
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    about 0.90 per liter...
    Which is about $1.60 per liter
    Which is.. about $6 per gallon..

    so about twice as much..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    What you don't realize is that you still pay a bargain compared to the rest of the world..
    You would think that would make me feel better. In Houston, we get better gas prices than the national average, but it's still $2.50/gal here. Since we have a ****-poor transit system, you have to drive to get anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    about 0.90 per liter...
    Which is about $1.60 per liter
    Which is.. about $6 per gallon..

    so about twice as much..
    How much of that is taxes?
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    $2.67/gallon for the low octane stuff in SoFla today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    How much of that is taxes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToolkiT
    What you don't realize is that you still pay a bargain compared to the rest of the world..
    finally someone said it!!...although not as bad as you guys im at 3.28 / gallon...we have about 20 cent/litre of gas tax... (we're at approx 1.039 / litre http://www.ottawagasprices.com)

    the cruddy part is though...your petrol prices are higher...however the automotive industry is geared towards fuel efficent cars over there (thats what i have been told...small fuel efficent cars)...here you want ultra efficency prepare to pay through the nose...thats why all you see in canada (let alone ottawa and montreal) are mazda3s, civcs, corollas, echos and focuses


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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    In holland the % tax on fuel is even worse, I believe it is 60-70% there
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    Get a more fuel efficient vehicle and stop buying SUVs and gas guzzlers. If you do want to keep buying these fuel guzzlers, then you help increase demand and that helps push the prices up.

    Gasoline is a limited commodity and it isn't going to last forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo2000
    Get a more fuel efficient vehicle and stop buying SUVs and gas guzzlers. If you do, you increase demand and that helps push the prices up.

    Gasoline is a limited commodity and it isn't going to last forever.
    Easy on the self-righteousness, ronbo. What makes you think we're all buying SUVs and gas guzzlers?

    Anyway, I'd like to add, that I still think gasoline is a bargain when Coke and Snapple (sugar water) are more expensive than crude oil that's shipped around the world, refined, trucked to a nearby station, and pumped in to my tank.
    I just have never paid this much for gas yet, well, except for that time I as in Tahiti.

    It'll be up to $3.60 at this pump within a year. Mark my words.
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    I know not everyone have gas guzzlers but I look around here in LA where you see an SUV every so often.

    I am guilty of that as well as I still kept my '69 Mustang and a GM Safari van.

    I am rethinking what vehicle to get next as I want to get rid of at one of these.
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    Hey I'm in Silicon Valley. Every 3rd car is a Hummer H2, Suburban, Giant Minivan, or the latest monstrosity that the car companies have cranked out.
    I saw an interview last night on the news where they talked to this guy who added batteries to his Prius to make it more of an electric car getting over 100 MPG.
    He quoted charing his car from "clean electricity" and said he was glad to see gas prices go up so 'people would consider more fuel efficient vehicles for a change.'
    Kind of drove me crazy. First his electricity comes most likely from an oil burning power plant.
    Second, I'd LOVE to get a gas/electic hybrid or ANYTHING that uses less gas. The problem is they don't friggin' make them. Yeah, I could get a Toyota PriusOfCrap or Honda Civic Hybrid. But make a fuel efficient car that I actually want to drive. I hear Toyota is coming out with a bunch in the next year. I as well have been anxiously waiting to see these offerings for years now.
    The problem is legislation doesn't encourage reduction on oil dependence, to encourage US car companies to create alternative cars. Why? Because our wonderful president makes his money from foriegn oil. How's that for a conflict of interest.

    I'd like to add that my starting this thread wasn't that I was complaining. I just though it was pure comedy when I saw the price. I was like "OMG, it's actually 3 bucks now! This is too funny, I have to take a picture of it.

    Well this is just going to start really driving inflation like crazy for a while as prices go up to compensate for fuel costs and business add 'temporary' fuel surcharges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo2000
    Get a more fuel efficient vehicle and stop buying SUVs and gas guzzlers. If you do want to keep buying these fuel guzzlers, then you help increase demand and that helps push the prices up.

    Gasoline is a limited commodity and it isn't going to last forever.

    DITTO!

    How about a 110 mpg Prius?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh
    Hey I'm in Silicon Valley. Every 3rd car is a Hummer H2, Suburban, Giant Minivan, or the latest monstrosity that the car companies have cranked out.
    I saw an interview last night on the news where they talked to this guy who added batteries to his Prius to make it more of an electric car getting over 100 MPG.
    He quoted charing his car from "clean electricity" and said he was glad to see gas prices go up so 'people would consider more fuel efficient vehicles for a change.'
    Kind of drove me crazy. First his electricity comes most likely from an oil burning power plant.
    Second, I'd LOVE to get a gas/electic hybrid or ANYTHING that uses less gas. The problem is they don't friggin' make them. Yeah, I could get a Toyota PriusOfCrap or Honda Civic Hybrid. But make a fuel efficient car that I actually want to drive. I hear Toyota is coming out with a bunch in the next year. I as well have been anxiously waiting to see these offerings for years now.
    The problem is legislation doesn't encourage reduction on oil dependence, to encourage US car companies to create alternative cars. Why? Because our wonderful president makes his money from foriegn oil. How's that for a conflict of interest.

    I'd like to add that my starting this thread wasn't that I was complaining. I just though it was pure comedy when I saw the price. I was like "OMG, it's actually 3 bucks now! This is too funny, I have to take a picture of it.

    Well this is just going to start really driving inflation like crazy for a while as prices go up to compensate for fuel costs and business add 'temporary' fuel surcharges.

    as is said in this CNN article, the technology is available, affordable and it works.

    The greatest obstacle that a good idea has to overcome is usually a PERFECT idea.

    junior's hocus pocus on the perfect hydrogen solution is a poster child example of that.

    I currently do not own a car.

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/08/15/h...ction=cnn_tech

    ...It looks like a typical Toyota Prius hybrid, but in the trunk sits an 80-miles-per-gallon secret -- a stack of 18 brick-sized batteries that boosts the car's high mileage with an extra electrical charge so it can burn even less fuel.

    Gremban, an electrical engineer and committed environmentalist, spent several months and $3,000 tinkering with his car...

    ...extra batteries let him store extra power by plugging the car into a wall outlet at his home in this San Francisco suburb -- all for about a quarter.

    ...The extra batteries let Gremban drive for 20 miles with a 50-50 mix of gas and electricity. Even after the car runs out of power from the batteries and switches to the standard hybrid mode, it gets the typical Prius fuel efficiency of around 45 mpg. As long as Gremban doesn't drive too far in a day, he says, he gets 80 mpg.

    "The value of plug-in hybrids is they can dramatically reduce gasoline usage for the first few miles every day," Gremban said. "The average for people's usage of a car is somewhere around 30 to 40 miles per day. During that kind of driving, the plug-in hybrid can make a dramatic difference."


    ...Monrovia-based Energy CS has converted two Priuses to get up to 230 mpg by using powerful lithium ion batteries. It is forming a new company, EDrive Systems, that will convert hybrids to plug-ins for about $12,000 starting next year, company vice president Greg Hanssen said.

    University of California, Davis, engineering professor Andy Frank built a plug-in hybrid from the ground up in 1972 and has since built seven others, one of which gets up to 250 mpg. They were converted from non-hybrids, including a Ford Taurus and Chevrolet Suburban. ...believes automakers could mass-produce them by adding just $6,000 to each vehicle's price tag.

    Instead, Frank said, automakers promise hydrogen-powered vehicles hailed by President Bush and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, even though hydrogen's backers acknowledge the cars won't be widely available for years and would require a vast infrastructure of new fueling stations.

    "They'd rather work on something that won't be in their lifetime, and that's this hydrogen economy stuff," Frank said. "They pick this kind of target to get the public off their back, essentially."
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh
    Yeah, I could get a Toyota PriusOfCrap or Honda Civic Hybrid. But make a fuel efficient car that I actually want to drive. I hear Toyota is coming out with a bunch in the next year. I as well have been anxiously waiting to see these offerings for years now.
    How about the lexus Hybrids and the Ford escape?
    http://www.lexus.com/models/hybrid/
    http://www.fordvehicles.com/escapehybrid/home/

    and see here what's in the pipeline:
    http://www.hybridcars.com/cars.html
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    and dont ferget the beast of them all...the honda accord hybrid...that thing is sooooooooooo purdy

    oh yeah there is also the toyota highlander...and if you want a cool car...Mercedes Smart car weeeeeeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh
    I saw an interview last night on the news where they talked to this guy who added batteries to his Prius to make it more of an electric car getting over 100 MPG.
    He quoted charing his car from "clean electricity" and said he was glad to see gas prices go up so 'people would consider more fuel efficient vehicles for a change.'
    I agree! I don't understand what the big deal is about that car. It's more of an electric car than a hybrid. It requires outside electricity. Heck, I could build a 1,000 mpg car. Just make an electric car, and then every 1,000 miles dump a gallon of gasoline on the road. Voila!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hofo_mofo
    and dont ferget the beast of them all...the honda accord hybrid...that thing is sooooooooooo purdy

    oh yeah there is also the toyota highlander...and if you want a cool car...Mercedes Smart car weeeeeeeee
    But the accord hybrid gets essentially no fuel efficiency benefit from the addition of an electric motor. It's there to boost performance.
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