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    Quote Originally Posted by KRamsauer
    But the accord hybrid gets essentially no fuel efficiency benefit from the addition of an electric motor. It's there to boost performance.
    you could see it like that yes...but with the honda accord hybrid...you have a V6 toned down to an efficency to that of the Canadian Honda Civic Sedan Si (7.9/5.9) coupled with the 64.7 litre gas tank = 820 km city / 1097 km highway or 509 miles / 681 miles.

    After doing this for months I learned two very important things. 1. The car's efficency is key yes...but so does the gas tank's size. If you have a car who is rated at 5/6 and a 10 L gas tank...um you will really feel no difference in your wallet when compared to car with a bigger gas tank size. 2. Man headaches are a pain...wait a second
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  4. #24  
    i'll tell you this though...i really do love the prius...big time...however this is what is stopping me:

    Base Price 30530.00
    Selected Options
    - Package B 4065.00
    - Tideland Pearl (exterior) no cost
    - Ivory (interior) no cost
    Total Options 4065.00
    A/C Tax 100.00
    Transport & PDI + 1160.00
    Sub-Total = 35855.00
    TPS 2509.85
    TVQ + 2877.36
    Total = 41242.21


    without package B

    Base Price 30530.00
    Selected Options
    - Tideland Pearl (exterior) no cost
    - Ivory (interior) no cost
    Total Options 0.00
    A/C Tax 100.00
    Transport & PDI + 1160.00
    Sub-Total = 31790.00
    TPS 2225.30
    TVQ + 2551.15
    Total = 36566.45

    but to add insult to injury...this is not the conventional car right...so if something was to go wrong i would probably be SOL or pay through my un-born children

    furthermore...unlike you guys...the government gives us 0 incentives to get a hybrid car...well not true...they give us a 100 buck rebate...which of course offsets the A/C charge..

    apparently the Ontario government does something...but ha...talk is cheap show it to me please
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo2000
    Get a more fuel efficient vehicle and stop buying SUVs and gas guzzlers. If you do want to keep buying these fuel guzzlers, then you help increase demand and that helps push the prices up.

    Gasoline is a limited commodity and it isn't going to last forever.
    I like my gas guzzler!!
    I've heard that polar bear steaks are tough, but maybe if you marinated them in beer they'd turn out all right.
  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by hofo_mofo
    you could see it like that yes...but with the honda accord hybrid...you have a V6 toned down to an efficency to that of the Canadian Honda Civic Sedan Si (7.9/5.9) coupled with the 64.7 litre gas tank = 820 km city / 1097 km highway or 509 miles / 681 miles.

    After doing this for months I learned two very important things. 1. The car's efficency is key yes...but so does the gas tank's size. If you have a car who is rated at 5/6 and a 10 L gas tank...um you will really feel no difference in your wallet when compared to car with a bigger gas tank size. 2. Man headaches are a pain...wait a second
    So if I understand this correctly, you are saying the size of the gas tank affects how much you spend on gas? Please explain.
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by KRamsauer
    So if I understand this correctly, you are saying the size of the gas tank affects how much you spend on gas? Please explain.
    i know there is a logical and factual flaw to my reasoning...but when you think about it mentally is what i meant

    fisically yeah it will either be the same or worst or better...but its like getting a 90 instead of an 89. Although 89 is a high number...90 is better by 1...

    So yeah here is what i meant...yeah if you also have a large gas tank as well..you wont have to fill up every week or every few days (depends on your driving right).

    An example is the Toyota Matrix 4WD / Pontiac Vibe 4WD. In all honesty it is slightly worst on fuel efficency than the the 2WD model...however it would be negliable in terms in the number of fill ups if it's gas tank were bigger. However such is not the case...in the 2WD model the gas tank is 50 L, same as that as its sedan version...but the 4WD model, i guess to sacrifice weight or something, has decided to go with a 45 L gas tank. So basicaly what that means is instead of being able to fill up every 2 weeks with the 2WD model, because of the reduction in gas tank size the 4WD model would have to fill up every week.

    But if you had the following:

    2WD Model: 8.3/6.4 50 L gas tank = 602 / 781 km
    4WD Model: 9.2/6.9 60 L gas tank = 652 / 869 km

    So yeah even though you would burn more gas with the 4WD model, for sure, with the bigger gas tank you would have to fill up less times...however in the long wrong the amount paid in gas maybe equal more or less...but phsycologically you will feel better because you had to fill up less times

    im sorry for the mis-understanding
  8. #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetoad on 08/15/2005 at 11:49 AM

    I like my gas guzzler!!
    lol
    Agree, I enjoy the space big cars provides too. I guess we are victims of our own wants.
  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by ronbo2000
    I guess we are victims of our own wants.
    Well put. If I wanted to save on gas, I would get a moped, attach a Radio Flyer to the back with a tarp covering it to carry groceries or my wife!!!
    I've heard that polar bear steaks are tough, but maybe if you marinated them in beer they'd turn out all right.
  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by taylorh
    Easy on the self-righteousness, ronbo. What makes you think we're all buying SUVs and gas guzzlers?
    Yeah, I drive a Saturn (which is also a stick) and get anywhere from 34.4 to 41 mph - not bad for a '96 vehicle.

    Sticks are fun, you have more control, they're less expensive AND they get more mileage!!!

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  11. #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetoad
    Well put. If I wanted to save on gas, I would get a moped, attach a Radio Flyer to the back with a tarp covering it to carry groceries or my wife!!!
    There is some middle ground too, I too love high performance cars, but they are pretty pointless for commuting.
    For commuting a prius makes more sense, while if you go for a spin in the weekend a sportscar is more fun. So ideally you should have both
    Or like me you get a classic mini, which uses little fuel, but you get the sensation you go really fast
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