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  1. #401  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
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    Yea, right back at cha. Just don't get used to concessions from me or I'll break out my alter ego:

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  2. #402  


    "Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." --Cindy Sheehan
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  3. #403  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    YOU had to look something up!?!?
    I honestly have to do that every once in a while
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  4.    #404  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    I did not say she is the zeitgeist, just a pinpoint of focus. Last nights vigils represent the zeitgeist.
    Really? You need to use a different word than zeitgeist then. Zeitgeist is a term to use for the macro not the micro. To say this event of 100 or so people in Crawfordville, TX or several vigils across the US is representative of our current culture is not true. A better term would be 'overexposed'.
  5. #405  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Really? You need to use a different word than zeitgeist then. Zeitgeist is a term to use for the macro not the micro. To say this event of 100 or so people in Crawfordville, TX is representative of our current culture is not true. A better term would be 'overexposed'.
    Again, I said that last night's vigils across the nation were the change in zeitgeist. The wind is blowing in that direction now.
  6. #406  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl


    "Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." --Cindy Sheehan

    Smear job-o-la.

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  7. #407  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    I did not say she is the zeitgeist, just a pinpoint of focus. Last nights vigils represent the zeitgeist.
    I don't think so. At least not yet. These are mainly small protests...hardly a sign of the times. Certainly not the anti-war protests such as in the 60's and early 70's.
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  8. #408  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Again, I said that last night's vigils across the nation were the change in zeitgeist. The wind is blowing in that direction now.
    The wind blows west to east...or left to right
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  9.    #409  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl


    "Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel." --Cindy Sheehan
    What, was her son 3 years old and Bush made him join the military? Or was he a man and did he join with his own free will?

    I am beyond feeling sorry for her. I feel sorry for Casey (her son). She makes me sick.
  10. #410  
    Quote Originally Posted by burnout
    Smear job-o-la.

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    This is an authentic Jewish recipe for the best Chopped Chicken Liver pate you have ever had

    Recipe
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  11.    #411  
    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Again, I said that last night's vigils across the nation were the change in zeitgeist. The wind is blowing in that direction now.
    edit: I edited my original post
  12. #412  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    What, was her son 3 years old and Bush made him join the military? Or was he a man and did he join with his own free will?

    I am beyond feeling sorry for her. I feel sorry for Casey (her son). She makes me sick.
    Well behaved women rarely make history
  13. #413  
    Uh-oh... there is a Zeitgeist!!!
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  14. #414  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    I don't think so. At least not yet. These are mainly small protests...hardly a sign of the times. Certainly not the anti-war protests such as in the 60's and early 70's.

    what you should truly watch to understand which way the wind blows is the direction that repugs run for cover during the next 12 months ...

    Bad Iraq War News Worries Some in G.O.P. on '06 Vote

    By ADAM NAGOURNEY and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
    Published: August 18, 2005
    WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 - A stream of bad news out of Iraq, echoed at home by polls that show growing impatience with the war and rising disapproval of President Bush's Iraq policies, is stirring political concern in Republican circles, party officials said Wednesday...

    ...Republicans said a convergence of events - including the protests inspired by the mother of a slain American soldier outside Mr. Bush's ranch in Texas, the missed deadline to draft an Iraqi Constitution and the spike in casualties among reservists - was creating what they said could be a significant and lasting shift in public attitude against the war.

    The Republicans described that shift as particularly worrisome, occurring 14 months before the midterm elections. As further evidence, they pointed to a special election in Ohio two weeks ago, where a Democratic marine veteran from Iraq who criticized the invasion decision came close to winning in a district that should have easily produced a Republican victory.

    "There is just no enthusiasm for this war,
    " said Representative John J. Duncan Jr., a Tennessee Republican who opposes the war. "Nobody is happy about it. It certainly is not going to help Republican candidates, I can tell you that much."

    Representative Wayne T. Gilchrest, a Maryland Republican who originally supported the war but has since turned against it, said he had encountered "a lot of Republicans grousing about the situation as a whole and how they have to respond to a lot of questions back home."

    "I have been to a lot of funerals
    ," Mr. Gilchrest said....

    ...Grover Norquist, a conservative activist with close ties to the White House and Mr. Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, said: "If Iraq is in the rearview mirror in the '06 election, the Republicans will do fine. But if it's still in the windshield, there are problems."..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/18/po...pagewanted=all
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  15.    #415  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Uh-oh... there is a Zeitgeist!!!
    Interesting, they joined 12/2004, is active right now and has only 11 posts.
  16.    #416  
    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    what you should truly watch to understand which way the wind blows is the direction that repugs run for cover during the next 12 months ...

    Bad Iraq War News Worries Some in G.O.P. on '06 Vote

    By ADAM NAGOURNEY and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
    Published: August 18, 2005
    WASHINGTON, Aug. 17 - A stream of bad news out of Iraq, echoed at home by polls that show growing impatience with the war and rising disapproval of President Bush's Iraq policies, is stirring political concern in Republican circles, party officials said Wednesday...

    ...Republicans said a convergence of events - including the protests inspired by the mother of a slain American soldier outside Mr. Bush's ranch in Texas, the missed deadline to draft an Iraqi Constitution and the spike in casualties among reservists - was creating what they said could be a significant and lasting shift in public attitude against the war.

    The Republicans described that shift as particularly worrisome, occurring 14 months before the midterm elections. As further evidence, they pointed to a special election in Ohio two weeks ago, where a Democratic marine veteran from Iraq who criticized the invasion decision came close to winning in a district that should have easily produced a Republican victory.

    "There is just no enthusiasm for this war,
    " said Representative John J. Duncan Jr., a Tennessee Republican who opposes the war. "Nobody is happy about it. It certainly is not going to help Republican candidates, I can tell you that much."

    Representative Wayne T. Gilchrest, a Maryland Republican who originally supported the war but has since turned against it, said he had encountered "a lot of Republicans grousing about the situation as a whole and how they have to respond to a lot of questions back home."

    "I have been to a lot of funerals
    ," Mr. Gilchrest said....

    ...Grover Norquist, a conservative activist with close ties to the White House and Mr. Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, said: "If Iraq is in the rearview mirror in the '06 election, the Republicans will do fine. But if it's still in the windshield, there are problems."..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/18/po...pagewanted=all
    Agreed it is worrisome. But a lot can change with Iraq in a positive way. A positive swing will make the landslide in 2006 even greater.
  17.    #417  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Uh-oh... there is a Zeitgeist!!!
    I am going to PM Zeitgeist and invite he/she to our discussion.
    Maybe Zeitgeist can decide for us all if we are experiencing a zeigeist.
  18. #418  
    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    what you should truly watch to understand which way the wind blows is the direction that repugs run for cover during the next 12 months ...
    If the people are tired of this by next years elections, or the '08 elections, they'll act accordingly. Personally, my life doesn't revolve around who occupies 1600 Penn. Ave. like it does some people. My life goes on. So what if a Democrat is elected President, and/or they regain Congress? I'm not going to become a raving lunatic.
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  19. #419  
    Do you really think that image is appropriate, linking the woman to a long defunct political party or the KKK?

    I guess we should fuhget about it... all those conservative columnists like Taki and Sobran are just card-carrying members of the National Socialist party!

    I don't get it. Wait, it's from Front Page, so I can kind of understand the hysteria the person who made that image must have went through.

    Critic of Israel = Nazi. It's so easy to grasp this boys and girls.

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  20. #420  
    Quote Originally Posted by burnout
    I have a pony, would you like to pet it?
    The Veep has a pony too

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