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  1. #81  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    Not really. Do you care that your country and it's bankers are used to funnel money to terriorists?? Hmmmm??
    I care a lot about what our banks do. Therefore I am glad the rules regarding money laundering and other dubious sources of money are much more strict here than in most other countries. It's quite telling that the example posted above is not from a Swiss Bank, but from one operating in Pakistan, the US and Great Britain (though the US and Great Britain also have good laws against money laundering).

    I cannot recall a single case of money for terrorists in which a Swiss bank was involved in. There were some cases of money from e.g. African dictators or e.g. the Marcos family from the Philippines, but that money was confiscated and given back, even though Marcos was a strong ally of the US. It took quite a while btw because of continuous appeals of Imelda Marcos etc.
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  2. #82  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    Not really. Do you care that your country and it's bankers are used to funnel money to terriorists?? Hmmmm??
    I care a lot about what our banks do. Therefore I am glad the rules regarding money laundering and other dubious sources of money are much more strict here than in most other countries. It's quite telling that the example posted above is not from a Swiss Bank, but from one operating in Pakistan, the US and Great Britain (though the US and Great Britain also have good laws against money laundering).

    I cannot recall a single case of money for terrorists in which a Swiss bank was involved in. There were some cases of money from e.g. African dictators or e.g. the Marcos family from the Philippines, but that money was confiscated and given back, even though Marcos was a strong ally of the US. It took quite a while btw because of continuous appeals of Imelda Marcos etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    That was a small bank, but yeah...like that.

    Swiss Banks and Terrorism
    From the Mission Statement of the "Jaeger Research Institute" you quoted: "While the human race argues over many relatively insignificant philosophical, religious, scientific, economic, political, sociological, media and war-related issues, an entire Solar System awaits exploration and colonization. The purpose of the Jaeger Research Institute is to present a forum where these "issues" can be presented by email and/or argued at various Newsgroups and forums around the Internet."

    They even quote Hitler on their homepage, does that not strike you as odd? http://www.mecfilms.com/universe/

    When you go up on level to http://www.mecfilms.com, you realise it is from "The world's first virtual movie studio".

    So, in short, it it the sort of weirdo BS site you far too often take your quotes against Switzerland from, instead of dealing with the arguments presented. This is the Iraq discussion thread, so why not stick to the topic?
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  3. #83  
    Quote Originally Posted by clulup
    ...it it the sort of weirdo BS site you far too often take your quotes against Switzerland from, instead of dealing with the arguments presented. This is the Iraq discussion thread, so why not stick to the topic?
    I have to say, that its probably because your country seems to collaborate with the worlds villians. I guess that's how one stays neutral, huh? Besides, you get so funny when you lose your composure.
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  4. #84  
    Hey, Claire...Google "US Swiss Internees" and see what you get. Maybe you can post some pictures of how thin our guys were when they were released from Swiss slammers?
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    ....As the Allied Strategic Air Offensive increased in scope, many other crippled U.S. aircraft also sought refuge in neutral Switzerland. By the end of World War II, over 1,500 American soldiers had entered Switzerland in such a manner and were interned by the Swiss government. Those who attempted escape were sent to punishment camps, where many suffered conditions comparable to imprisonment by the Axis powers.

    American pilots were beaten by their Swiss guards.

    Whether or not Switzerland violated its neutrality during World War II is not an easy question to answer. Many prominent historians have been debating this question over the last decade, particularly after the revelation of Switzerland’s connections to Nazi Germany and profiteering from the Holocaust. ...

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    This is something you would never hear about in the guidebooks.
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  6. #86  
    those who live in glass houses ..

    Ever hear of the Voyage of the Damned?

    Switzerland took in over 28,000 Jewish refugees during the Holocaust.
    Not bad for a neutral country.
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  7. #87  
    Quote Originally Posted by chillig35
    those who live in glass houses ..

    Ever hear of the Voyage of the Damned?

    Switzerland took in over 28,000 Jewish refugees during the Holocaust.
    Not bad for a neutral country.
    That certainly has nothing to do with the site that 1911 found, now does it.
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  8. #88  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
    That certainly has nothing to do with the site that 1911 found, now does it.
    true - but neither has it anything to do with the this thread topic
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  9. #89  
    It's called a tangent
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  10. #90  
    i thought it was called Off Topic - now wait was that the forum or this thread?
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  11. #91  
    Well you brought up some movie that I never even heard of, let alone saw.
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  12. #92  
    well .. I meant it as a link to a particular event (though I did see the movie when I'd visited the Holocaust memorial in Wash DC)
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  13. #93  
    Quote Originally Posted by chillig35
    well .. I meant it as a link to a particular event (though I did see the movie when I'd visited the Holocaust memorial in Wash DC)
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  14. #94  
    Now back to our regularly scheduled program.
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    A Mil-spec (MIL-L-46000, LSA ) gun lubricant, with a trace of PIG* to act as an UNCLEANSING agent, sending TERRORISTS a wad of DOOM with every bullet fired.

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    couldn't resist
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    Well it looks like we have our first terrorist attack outside of Iraq, where the perps were trained in Iraq fighting in "The War on Terra". I think pretty soon you are going to be seeing more of this type of thing. Where the terrorist are trained in Iraq and then they will seep out to produce attacks across the globe. Remember we fighting them over there so we don't have to here!

    Iraq Qaeda claims rocket attack in Jordan port

    DUBAI (Reuters) - Iraq's al Qaeda said on Tuesday it was behind a failed rocket attack on U.S. Navy ships in Jordan's Red Sea port of Aqaba, according to an Internet statement.

    The group, led by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said those who carried out the strike last Friday had fled to safety.

    "Your brothers in the al Qaeda Organization in Iraq have been planning the Aqaba raid for a while," the group said in a statement posted on an Islamist Internet site it often uses.

    "The rockets were fired at their targets -- a group of ships belonging to the crusader American forces -- in Aqaba and Eliat.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...dan_qaeda_dc_2
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    Uh-Oh


    Source: Miami Herald

    Kurds preparing takeover;
    U.S. exit strategy at risk


    The U.S. plan for leaving Iraq is in trouble, with more than 10,000 Kurds in the Iraqi army prepared to seize control of northern Iraq for an independent state.

    BY TOM LASSETER Knight Ridder News Service

    KIRKUK, Iraq - Kurdish leaders have inserted more than 10,000 of their militia members into Iraqi army divisions in northern Iraq to lay the groundwork to swarm south, seize the oil-rich city of Kirkuk and possibly half of Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city, and secure the borders of an independent Kurdistan.
    Five days of interviews with Kurdish leaders and troops in the region suggest that U.S. plans to bring unity to Iraq before withdrawing American troops by training and equipping a national army aren't gaining traction. Instead, some troops who are formally under U.S. and Iraqi national command are preparing to protect territory and ethnic and religious interests in the event of Iraq's fragmentation, which many of them think is inevitable.
    The soldiers said that while they wore Iraqi army uniforms they still considered themselves members of the Peshmerga -- the Kurdish militia -- and were awaiting orders from Kurdish leaders to break ranks. Many said they wouldn't hesitate to kill their Iraqi army comrades, especially Arabs, if a fight for an independent Kurdistan erupted.
    ''It doesn't matter if we have to fight the Arabs in our own battalion,'' said Gabriel Mohammed, a Kurdish soldier in the Iraqi army who was escorting a Knight Ridder reporter through Kirkuk. ``Kirkuk will be ours.''

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  19. #99  
    Quote Originally Posted by clairegrrl
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    *as with the contents of many hotdogs, we think that an air of mystery as to WHICH PART of the PIG is being used is a trade secret which benefits our customers and those on the receiving end.

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    Cripes that's tacky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daThomas
    Cripes that's tacky.
    I actually liked it. I like the idea of pig grease covered bullets. An uncleansing agent!! Oh, that is rich.
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