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  1. #161  
    It's not exactly Iraq, but linked to the "War on Terror" http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/...ap/index.html:

    Talk show host Pat Campbell asked the Littleton Republican how the country should respond if terrorists struck several U.S. cities with nuclear weapons.
    "Well, what if you said something like -- if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites," Tancredo answered.
    "You're talking about bombing Mecca," Campbell said.
    "Yeah," Tancredo responded.
    That's like saying "We are going to bomb the Vatican after the next massive (Catholic) IRA attack".
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    Quote Originally Posted by clulup
    It's not exactly Iraq, but linked to the "War on Terror" http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/...ap/index.html:



    That's like saying "We are going to bomb the Vatican after the next massive (Catholic) IRA attack".
    I have nothing against the war on terror. Just how it is being conducted in Iraq. So let's try to keep the focus on Iraq.

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    NEWS RELEASE
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    Phone: (813) 827-5894; FAX: (813) 827-2211; DSN 651-5894

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    July 18, 2005
    Release Number: 05-07-12C


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    ONE TASK FORCE LIBERTY SOLDIER KILLED, TWO WOUNDED BY IED

    TIKRIT, Iraq – One Task Force Liberty Soldier was killed and two were wounded by an improvised explosive device at about 4 p.m. on July 16 in Kirkuk Province.

    The two wounded Soldiers were taken to a Coalition Forces medical treatment facility. The name of the deceased is being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

    http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/C...t=20050712.txt
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    NEWS RELEASE
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    July 18, 2005
    Release Number: 05-07-13C


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    MARINE DIES FROM NON-HOSTILE INCIDENT

    CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq – A Marine assigned to 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), died as the result of a non-hostile incident July 17 at Camp Blue Diamond, in Ramadi, Iraq.

    The name of the deceased is being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

    The incident is under investigation.

    FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS RELEASE, CONTACT II MARINE EXPEDITIONARY FORCE PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT CEPAOWO@cemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil.

    http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/C...t=20050713.txt
  5. #165  
    The good news coming from Iraq
    7/26/03

    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion.../mb_030726.htm

    Talking to Chalabi afterward, I got a far more optimistic picture of Iraq than has been painted in most of the press. The north and the south are calm; opposition to the United States in Baghdad and the Sunni triangle to the north is limited. There are no clashes between Shiite and Sunni Muslims or between Kurds and other Iraqis. Meetings of the organizing council have been harmonious and productive. Much of the negative press, Chalabi argues, is due to translators who have their own anti-American agendas and give American and other reporters their version of what is going on rather than what the Iraqis being interviewed are saying.

    ...........................

    Chalabi's American aide, Francis Brooke, predicts that the Governing Council will adopt a proposal much like Chalabi's. Chalabi foresees the provisional councils' being chosen this summer and the constitutional convention at work in the fall. If so, this will be amazingly rapid progress toward creation of a democratic, rule-of-law Iraq-much faster than the progress that was made in Germany and Japan after World War II.

    One wonders whether the American and world press will be able to ignore most of this progress as it has been ignoring the other progress made since April in Iraq. Stories have focused on the killing of American soldiers, apparently by Baathist elements. But this should not be surprising: the pro-Hitler Werewolves underground shot and killed many American soldiers for months after the surrender of Germany in 1945. News media obsessed with the reliability of intelligence about Iraqi attempts to purchase uranium in Africa have tended to gloss over or ignore the progress set out by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in his July 24 press briefing. It is worth setting out:

    • Captured or killed some 15,000 insurgents in the last year (I threw this fact in that I read about in a recent study)
    • The formation of an Iraqi national army has begun.
    • 30,000 Iraqi police have been hired.
    • An Iraqi civil defense corps is being formed.
    • Coalition forces have captured or killed 38 of Iraq's 55 most wanted.
    • Thousands of lower-level Baath Party loyalists have been rounded up or otherwise dealt with.
    • The Iraqi Central Bank has been made independent.
    • Iraq has returned to the world oil market. All of Iraq's universities have reopened.
    • Power and water are, in most places, at prewar levels, and we're making progress in Baghdad.
    • The food redistribution system has been restarted.
    • Nearly all of Iraq's 240 hospitals and 1,200 clinics are open.
    • Over 100 newspapers have begun publishing.
    • In all major cities and in 85 percent of the towns, municipal councils have been formed of Iraqis.
    • Ambassador Bremer has helped establish a new National Governing Council. It has begun exercising executive authority, appointing ministers, preparing the way for a new national constitution.


    All this is tremendously encouraging. State planners had envisioned a very different process, one which would not have put Iraq on the track toward democracy and the rule of law. Fortunately, Defense has been able to do that, with critical help from Chalabi and other Iraqis who share those goals.

    The press coverage and the criticisms of many Democrats seem based on an assumption that Iraq is somehow a rerun of Vietnam. But the facts on the ground in Iraq should not be squeezed into the Vietnam template. Progress is being made in establishing the first rule-of-law democracy in an Arab country–an example with the potential of changing the whole region for the better. You may have to search hard for it in most American news media, but there is good news coming from Iraq.
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       #166  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    The good news coming from Iraq
    7/26/03

    http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion.../mb_030726.htm
    And I refer you this post.

    on edit: Holy Crap this article is almost 2 years old. Got anything newer?
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    Oh...sorry...you are right....I was reading through a bunch of articles and didn't register the date.
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    Survey: Moderate Trust in the Presidency Council and Ministers' Council,
    and Skepticism Regarding Achieving the Constitution on Time

    http://www.almendhar.com/almendharen....aspx?nID=4152

    Dr. Ahmed Bahedh Taqi, manager of the center, said that this study was conducted in four provinces: Karbala, Najaf, Babel and Baghdad, and on a random sample of 240 persons. The major objective of this study was to find out the opinion of citizens regarding these institutions. Taqi pointed out that the study has concluded that 53% have considered that the presidency council is acceptable, compared to 20% , who considered it as very acceptable, while 26% have considered it unacceptable, due to fact that this experiment is recent and the situation towards it was fluctuating.

    The center manager pointed out that the situation regarding the government was in favor of trusting dealing with it, as 51% trust it to a certain extent, 21% have confirmed their maximum trust in it, while 27% of the surveyed do not trust it.

    He noted that the survey has concluded a close situation regarding the possibility that the National Assembly would draft the constitution on time, as the percentages came close: 32% believe that there is a possibility that the National Assembly would succeed in drafting the constitution on time, 30% do not believe in that and 38% do not know whether it would succeed or fail. He pointed out that this matter shows the vagueness and the unclear view in the Iraqi political arena, which affects people's confidence in the possibility that the National Assembly would manage to execute its basic task, which is represented in drafting the coming constitution.
  9. #169  
    Al-Sadr calls for self-restraint from Iraqis

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8613905/

    8:25 a.m. ET July 18, 2005
    LONDON - A radical Shiite cleric who led two major uprisings against American forces in Iraq last year called for his countrymen to exercise self-restraint and avoid violence, according to a BBC interview to be broadcast Monday.

    Muqtada al-Sadr condemned the U.S. military presence in Iraq, and in the interview kept open the possibility of returning to armed resistance, but said Iraqis should not be provoked into violence.

    “(I believe) America does not want confrontation. So I call upon other parties like the Iraqi army, and the Iraqi police, to exercise self-restraint with Iraqi people and not be provoked into confrontation with them or the occupying forces as this isn’t in the interest of Iraq,” al-Sadr said, according to a transcript of the interview released by the BBC’s Newsnight program.

    .................

    Al-Sadr doesn't rule out return to violence
    According to Newsnight, al-Sadr, who still has his own militia, the Mahdi army, made clear that he was keeping open the possibility of a return to armed resistance.
  10. #170  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    I have nothing against the war on terror. Just how it is being conducted in Iraq. So let's try to keep the focus on Iraq.

    Thanks
    Yes, but: Iraq has become the anti-"war against terror". Iraq is now the main training ground for Islamistic terrorists. It is also the driving force for the recruiting of new terrorists. That's a great achievement for Bush when considering that there was virtually no Islamistic terror in Iraq before Bush decided to go there (Source):

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, a U.S. counterterrorism official said on Wednesday.

    A classified report from the U.S. spy agency says Iraqi and foreign fighters are developing a broad range of deadly skills, from car bombings and assassinations to tightly coordinated conventional attacks on police and military targets, the official said.

    Once the insurgency ends, Islamic militants are likely to disperse as highly organized battle-hardened combatants capable of operating throughout the Arab-speaking world and in other regions including Europe.
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  11. #171  
    More voices concerning the war in Iraq as a "strategy" against terror, this time not from the CIA, but from the British Royal Institute of International Affairs (Source):
    Monday, July 18, 2005; Posted: 11:12 a.m. EDT (15:12 GMT)

    LONDON, England (AP) -- Britain's close alliance with the United States and involvement in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have left it at particular risk of terrorist attack, according to a report published Monday by two leading think tanks.

    The Royal Institute of International Affairs, known as Chatham House, and the Economic and Social Research Council also said the situation in Iraq had given "a boost to the al Qaeda network's propaganda, recruitment and fund-raising" and provided an ideal training ground for al Qaeda-linked terrorists.
    (...)
    "There is no doubt that the situation over Iraq has imposed particular difficulties for the UK, and for the wider coalition against terrorism."

    As well as being used as a propaganda tool by al Qaeda, the Iraq war had "deflected resources and assistance that could have been deployed to assist" Afghan President Hamid Karzai and to bring Osama bin Laden to justice.
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  12. #172  
    Sunnis Suspend Taking Part in Iraq Constitution Panel

    Wednesday July 20, 2005 3:01 PM
    By BASSEM MROUE
    Associated Press Writer

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Sunni Muslim members on a committee drafting Iraq's new constitution suspended their participation Wednesday in the wake of a colleague's assassination, saying they need more security. A suicide bomber blew himself up outside an army recruiting center in central Baghdad, killing at least 10 people. ...
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    Draft Constitution May Deal Setback to Rights of Women

    # Changes include loss of guaranteed seats in the assembly for women and erosion of their social status.


    By Alissa J. Rubin, Times Staff Writer

    BAGHDAD — A draft version of the constitution would make fundamental changes in the legal rights of Iraqi women, undoing decades of progressive treatment and likely sharply reducing the number of women in the National Assembly.

    Currently, women hold 31% of the seats in the National Assembly, and under the Transitional Administrative Law that set up the assembly, they must hold at least 25% of the seats.

    However, the draft would remove the 25% requirement after two more terms of the assembly, almost certainly resulting in a significant reduction of seats held by women.

    Women's rights would also be affected by language stating that women would have the same rights as men as long as there is no conflict with Islamic law.

    Similar language on Islamic law is being added to every provision in the constitution after a push by Muslim clerics to emphasize Iraq's identity as an Islamic state.

    That probably would mean a return to the practice, common in Persian Gulf nations, of having matters such as marriage, divorce and inheritance adjudicated by religious courts.

    Under that system Sunnis, Shiites and Christians would have separate courts to deal with such matters.

    Under Islamic law, daughters inherit a lesser share of their fathers' wealth than sons do, and divorce is easy for men, who can simply say three times that they divorce a woman to accomplish it. Women, on the other hand, must go through an elaborate and often embarrassing presentation of domestic circumstances with a cleric. ...
  14. #174  
    "I have seen their smiling faces and their attempts to say 'I love you' in broken English...I saw hope in their eyes and gratitude in their hearts for what was done for them."




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    Pentagon report: Insurgency failing to disrupt democracy
    USA TODAY Posted 7/21/2005 4:50 PM

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...q_x.htm?csp=15

    However, the report says the country's elections in January and its work to write a constitution show Iraq's continued progress.
    "The strategic prize in Iraq is the political process," said Peter Rodman, assistant secretary of Defense. He said it is key that the insurgency has "failed with repeated violence to derail or slow down or disrupt the political process."

    Congress required the Pentagon to submit the report, titled "Measuring Stability and Security in Iraq," after Democrats and some Republicans said the Bush administration hadn't backed up its claims of progress in Iraq. The report must be updated every 90 days.

    Information on the quality of the training of the Iraqi military and police is kept classified, but the report did say there are about 171,300 soldiers, border guards and police on the job. The number of troops and police and the quality of their training will determine when U.S. troops can withdraw from Iraq.

    ........................
    The report is available at www.defenselink.mil. It also includes assessments by the State Department and the Iraqi government on Iraq's progress toward democracy, its economy and other matters. For example, it shows electricity generation at about the same level as last year and falling short of growing demand. The number of cell phone users, meanwhile, has soared to nearly 2.7 million in a country that had almost no service two years ago.

    ........................

    Democrats said the Pentagon failed to provide information, even in classified versions, on important yardsticks of progress.

    Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass., a senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, said there's no assessment of the strength of the insurgency even though Congress specifically requested it. And there is no data on clean drinking water, even though that has been a major focus of U.S. reconstruction spending.

    Meehan said Pentagon officials promised in closed-door briefings to provide that information later.
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       #176  
    NEWS RELEASE
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    July 22, 2005
    Release Number: 05-07-14C


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    SAILOR DIES FROM BOMB BLAST WOUNDS

    CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq – A Sailor assigned to Regimental Combat Team-2, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), died July 21 of wounds received July 15 from an improvised explosive device.

    The incident occurred during combat operations in Hit, Iraq.

    The name of the deceased is being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

    FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS RELEASE, CONTACT II MARINE EXPEDITIONARY FORCE PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT: CEPAOWO@cemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil
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    July 22, 2005
    Release Number: 05-07-15C


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    MARINE KILLED BY IED NEAR ZAIDON

    CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq – A Marine assigned to Regimental Combat Team-8, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), was killed in action July 21 by an improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations near Zaidon, Iraq.

    The name of the deceased is being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

    FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT THE II MARINE EXPEDITIONARY FORCE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE AT CEPAOWO@cemnf-wiraq.usmc.mil
  18. #178  
    NRG: Just curious.......Does HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND never report how many insurgents we have captured and killed, cities that are now completely peaceful, or good humanitarian efforts the armed forces have accomplished, or are you only posting the ones showing the soldiers killed while trying to do all this?
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       #179  
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbesIsReal
    NRG: Just curious.......Does HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND never report how many insurgents we have captured and killed, cities that are now completely peaceful, or good humanitarian efforts the armed forces have accomplished, or are you only posting the ones showing the soldiers killed while trying to do all this?
    They have got a wealth of info on there. http://www.centcom.mil/ this is MacDill Air Force Base right across the bay (Tampa) from me. Go check it out.
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    Soldiers from the 256th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division and an Iraqi soldier, search for four insurgents who earlier attacked an Iraqi unit.

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