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  1. #181  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Hehehe...you know, that really doesn't bother me. The stress of being President, must take a huge toll for any person. And we all know Presidents are never truly on vacation.

    However, it seemed that MattM2G was insinuating some financial shenanigans, which if he were indeed implying that, would be a serious, perhaps impeachable offense.

    Wait, so you honestly think our President is financialy legit? HAH! We will be making balloon payments for Iraq. Currently we have not paid a single cent to anyone for anything in Iraq. We've taken all this stuff and said, "Hey, I'll pay you back later." Well guess just when later is? 2009 or 2010 when the current administration is long gone? No financial shenanigans eh?


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    Update. Delay's charge against Earle, BASELESS. Who would have guessed.


    Source: Houston Chronicle

    DeLay's lawyer lacking evidence of DA misconduct
    But as DeGuerin seeks grand jury records, experts call Earle's role strange, not wrong

    By JANET ELLIOTT
    Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau

    AUSTIN - U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay's chief lawyer says he has no evidence that Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle participated in grand jury deliberations, despite having made that allegation in motions to dismiss DeLay's indictments.

    But Houston attorney **** DeGuerin said there have been enough public comments by grand jurors in news media reports to raise suspicions that Earle may have violated laws in his efforts to indict one of the most powerful Republican politicians in the nation.
    DeGuerin is seeking access to grand jury records to develop possible evidence of misconduct on Earle's part. He has subpoenaed records from two of his assistant district attorneys related to their dealings with three grand juries that investigated DeLay.
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    Secrecy is a long-standing hallmark of grand jury proceedings. It is designed to protect innocent people under investigation as well as prevent those being investigated from fleeing or trying to bribe grand jurors or witnesses.

    Legal experts on grand juries say it's unlikely that the defense team will be given access to the records or that DeLay will be able to prove anything serious enough to get his charges thrown out.

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    #183  
    Update. Court issues arrest warrant for Tom Delay.

    http://65.24.76.65/sounds/televis/law_order/logavel.mp3

    Source: SFGate.com

    Texas Court Issues Warrant for DeLay

    A state court issued an arrest warrant on Wednesday for Rep. Tom DeLay, requiring him to appear in Texas for booking on state conspiracy and money laundering charges.


    The court set an initial $10,000 bail as a routine step before the Texas Republican's first court appearance Friday.


    DeLay, R-Texas, could be fingerprinted and photographed, although his lawyers had hoped to avoid this step. DeLay probably will surrender in his home county of Fort Bend, near Houston, but he could go to any law enforcement office in Texas. His court appearance will be in Austin.


    The warrant, known as a capias, is "a matter of routine and bond will be posted," said DeLay's lawyer, **** DeGuerin.


    DeLay has stepped down as U.S. House majority leader at least temporarily under a Republican rule requiring him to relinquish the post if charged with a felony.

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    #184  
    Update. Delay's arrest warrant online.


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    Uh oh.
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    I thought I read that they (his attorney) wanted to prevent him from getting booked and having his mug shot taken. (No courtesy I guess.)
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    #187  
    Quote Originally Posted by t2gungho
    I thought I read that they (his attorney) wanted to prevent him from getting booked and having his mug shot taken. (No courtesy I guess.)
    What, after what Delay said about Earle, I doubt that Delay is going to get any slack from him(Earle). I would also bet this backlash is in part for Delay reneging on a plea deal and running his trap on every 'liberal' media outlet he could find.
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    #188  
    Quote Originally Posted by pdxtreo
    Uh oh.
    ??? Uh oh???

    This is nothing out of the ordinary it is the standard procedure in any indictment for the arrest warrent to be issued as required by law. It does not signify guilt or innocence just a step in the process.

    As I said early on, if he is guilty he needs to pay the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    What, after what Delay said about Earle, I doubt that Delay is going to get any slack from him(Earle). I would also bet this backlash is in part for Delay reneging on a plea deal and running his trap on every 'liberal' media outlet he could find.
    Cite where Delay "reneged" on a plea deal. I read that he refused to plead to a misdmeanor, ala Earle's "donate money to my favorite charity and I'll drop the charges" form of extortion.

    I note you neglect to mention Earle's public pronoucement that he was going to get Delay.

    I note you neglect to mention Earle had a film crew following him around for two years. Talk about an ego trying to create a culture of personality.

    I note you neglect to mention that Earle first charged Delay with a crime that wasn't a crime when it was committed. Ex Post Facto.

    How would you compare Delay's response to these charges to "Sooner rather than later, more rather than Less" Clinton? Sure Tom has been on the airwaves, facing hard questions. I know you'd rather see him curl up into a little ball like your average RINO, but Delay isn't built that way.

    Earle engaged in serious prosecutorial misconduct. The "secret" hearings were leaked by a foreman, who is a registered socialis, errr, I mean, Democrat. The Dems will do well to keep this alive for a year in order to keep the "culture of corruption" charge going for the 06 election cycle. And that is what this is all about.
  10. #190  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Let's see what the judge has to say about the conspiracy charge. My feeling is still that Delay made a deal for the conspiracy charge(the leeser of what he could be charged with) and then he reneged on the deal, hence the new charges.

    Ah. Now I see where you get the "reneged" on a deal...you had a "feeling.
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    #191  
    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    Cite where Delay "reneged" on a plea deal. I read that he refused to plead to a misdmeanor, ala Earle's "donate money to my favorite charity and I'll drop the charges" form of extortion.
    I want to address a few of you points here if you don't mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    I note you neglect to mention Earle's public pronoucement that he was going to get Delay.
    I think he was already in the process of indicting him.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    I note you neglect to mention Earle had a film crew following him around for two years. Talk about an ego trying to create a culture of personality.
    I have addressed this point of yours before, this is the same film crew that followed Delay around isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    I note you neglect to mention that Earle first charged Delay with a crime that wasn't a crime when it was committed. Ex Post Facto.
    Read this. This will tell you it doesn't matter. Here is a little snip for you:

    Source: FindLaw

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    Another Texas attorney told me he thought that, in any case, DeGuerin's technical argument about the defect in the first indictment would not fly. Texas has had a conspiracy statute forever. And it has had a prohibition against corporate contributions for about as long. So the fact that the state legislature did not get around to adding statutory language picking out, in particular, a conspiracy to violate the elections laws does not seem especially significant. Thus, it probably does not mean, as DeGuerin says, that there cannot be a conspiracy to violate the election laws. This lawyer, a former federal prosecutor, but now active criminal defense attorney, believes that any thinking judge will deny DeGuerin's motion to dismiss the first indictment.

    "But it's irrelevant now, with the second indictment," he added, "and DeLay is in much worse shape under the second indictment."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    How would you compare Delay's response to these charges to "Sooner rather than later, more rather than Less" Clinton? Sure Tom has been on the airwaves, facing hard questions. I know you'd rather see him curl up into a little ball like your average RINO, but Delay isn't built that way.
    I could care less how Delay handles himself facing the charges that he does. I would call Delay an outright liar just like I did with Clinton we he said "I did not have sexual relations with that women, Ms. Lewinsky".

    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    Earle engaged in serious prosecutorial misconduct. The "secret" hearings were leaked by a foreman, who is a registered socialis, errr, I mean, Democrat. The Dems will do well to keep this alive for a year in order to keep the "culture of corruption" charge going for the 06 election cycle. And that is what this is all about.
    You guys built the house, live in it. :shrug:

    As far as Earle engaging in serious prosecutorial misconduct, could you please substantiate this assertion. As I stated in an earlier in this thread, EVEN DELAY"S OWN ATTORNEY HAS NO EVIDENCE of the charges you are making, and he has stated such.
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    You tap dance well, but as usual avoid the issue.

    1. Is is appropriate for a DA to be the honored guest as a fund raiser and discuss an ongoing investigation? Do you think that behavior is perhaps a little strange?

    2. They may have "followed Delay around", but Delay didn't give them special access or an interview. Again I ask, is hosting a documentary team appropriate for a district attorney?

    3. You're convinced that Delay is guilty. This is a radical departure from your earlier "Let the court decide" approach. Does it hurt to be that transparent?

    4. Earle shopped grand juries. He withheld information from grand juries. The document he based this whole thing on now turns out to be hearsay from one witness.

    5. Do you think it is appropriate for a DA to investigate and indict corporations, but then drop the charges when those companies donate to the DA's farvorite charity? Does that sound like a shakedown to you?

    6. I will never understand how you can be charged for doing something what was legal when you did it. I'm not going to bother with the John Dean link.

    Delay's real crime was that he is so good as kicking donkey ****. His maneuver to reapportion Texas was masterful. But then, he watched a Dem majority do that in Texas for decades, so he learned from the best.

    This thing will drag for a few more months. Delay walks...Earle gets investigated by the Texas Bar.
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    #193  
    I would like to share this.

    Source: Smoking Gun
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1020051delay1.html

    OCTOBER 20--Here's the Tom DeLay mug shot snapped this afternoon when the deposed House majority leader appeared at a Harris County, Texas sheriff's office to be booked on conspiracy and money laundering charges. The Republican pol, 58, was forced to submit to a brief photo and fingerprint session after a District Judge yesterday issued an arrest warrant for him. The congressman is scheduled for his initial court appearance tomorrow in Travis County District Court.


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    #194  
    I read that the Dems were upset that the photo was all smiles and he even wore his house security pin on his lapel. They were hoping for a downcast, woe is me, picture to use in the upcoming election campaign ads.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable
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    Quote Originally Posted by cardio
    I read that the Dems were upset that the photo was all smiles and he even wore his house security pin on his lapel. They were hoping for a downcast, woe is me, picture to use in the upcoming election campaign ads.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable
    I was hoping for one like this:

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    #196  
    Quote Originally Posted by BARYE
    I was hoping for one like this:

    I bet Hillary was hoping for that one also
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    #197  
    Quote Originally Posted by cardio
    I read that the Dems were upset that the photo was all smiles and he even wore his house security pin on his lapel. They were hoping for a downcast, woe is me, picture to use in the upcoming election campaign ads.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable
    He looks that way cause he isn't spending any time in jail. All the other photos are people that were arrested out on the street, possibly drunk.
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    I know the source is right-wing, but the info is from the Federal Election Commission:
    Source: NewsMax.com
    Judge in DeLay Case Backed MoveOn.org

    Supporters of former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay might not be overly paranoid to suspect that there is just a hint of politics complicating his legal troubles.

    When the Texas Republican appears in court on Friday to face money-laundering charges, the presiding judge will be a Democratic Party activist who has contributed money to the George Soros-backed MoveOn.org, Sen. John Kerry and the Democratic National Committee.

    DeLay will face a hearing in Austin before state district Judge Bob Perkins, whose political contributions include:
    # $200 to presidential candidate John Kerry on July 14, 2004.
    # $200 to Sen. Kerry on July 24, 2004.
    # $475 to Kerry on July 29, 2004.
    # $200 to MoveOn.org on Sept. 11, 2004.
    # $200 to the Democratic National Committee on Oct. 13, 2004.
    # Another $200 to the DNC the very next day.
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    #199  
    Quote Originally Posted by phurth
    I know the source is right-wing, but the info is from the Federal Election Commission:
    Aren't judges elected to their judgeship? Also aren't judges randomly assigned to cases? I say this because it is not going to make a difference they are either (R),(D), or (I). Just more dirt Delay is kicking up to muddy the waters. We will see where it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Aren't judges elected to their judgeship? Also aren't judges randomly assigned to cases? I say this because it is not going to make a difference they are either (R),(D), or (I). Just more dirt Delay is kicking up to muddy the waters. We will see where it goes.
    Of course. It's also why there's such a thing as recusal. Conflicts inevitably come up. This judge should not be presiding over a political opposite in an obviously political case. Dirt it may be... but the objection seems justified to me.

    Donations to a candidate don't bother me... the MoveOn.org donation does. They're kinda out there.
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