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  1. #21  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Nudist, if you don't mind me asking, have you ever posted anything Treo-related??
    HAHAHAHAHAHHA!
  2. #22  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    Deniro, you talking to me?
    you gotta problem wit somethin? Look at me when I'm talkin to you.

  3. #23  
    Typical liberal post...

    The truth is that liberal hate America...that is America as it is now. They don't like the system of government that we have nor do they like the basic values of this country.

    - They (liberals) hate capitalism
    -They hate the church
    -They hate religion
    -They hate the concept of profit
    -They hate the traditional family institution
    -They hate traditional values
    -They hate the concept of responsibility

    However, there are things that they do want:

    -They love moral equivalency (i.e, equating Abu Gareb to Auchwitz)
    -They love redistribution of wealth
    -They love government
    -They love they notion victumhood
    -They love socialism
    -They love anything anit-American
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  4. #24  
    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    are you talking to me?

    Here is a good proposal which has recently been introduced, through the advocacy of the March of Dimes, designed to assist enhancing prenatal care to uninsured and low income mothers. I support it, do you?

    http://www.marchofdimes.com/aboutus/855_2032.asp
    Actually talking to each of the pro-Nudist posters who continued to bash without making any suggestions on what to do. I embrace varied opinion when accompanied by thoughtfull solutions!
  5. #25  
    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-Dance
    I am liberal and I do love my country. In my wildest dreams I never thought I'd need to justify or prove to anyone my love to my country....
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  6. #26  
    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    Nudist, Woof makes a point here. The post you made, while accurate, does not point to solutions. Obviously I look at your post as a first step in finding the solution to a problem, we need to acknowledge that there are problems. Now, to facilitate a dialogue here, lets start suggesting some solutions.

    If you read other posts by Nudist, you'll quickly realize Nudist has no interest in dialogue.......
  7. #27  
    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-Dance
    gfunkmagic: I am liberal and I do love my country. In my wildest dreams I never thought I'd need to justify or prove to anyone my love to my country, yet -- in-light of your post -- here I am, doing just that.
    Since when it is un-American to criticize America (the Constitution allows it, and America is based on it, is it not?!)?
    I am no-less a capitalist with family values as you are. And rest assure it should be the least of your worries. So Please. Please! Avoid making judgments on all liberals with such hurtful brushstrokes.
    Didn't mean to be hurtful, but if you were a democrat in the last election, you were hoping for a recession, a disaster in Iraq, less new jobs, more chaos in the middle east, higher oil prices, and whatever else that was bad for America just to beat GWB. The fact is that the priority of most reactionary liberals is so perverse that they would rather wish what is bad for America just so they can beat the republicans...
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    #28  
    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkmagic
    Typical liberal post...

    The truth is that liberal hate America...that is America as it is now. They don't like the system of government that we have nor do they like the basic values of this country.

    - They (liberals) hate capitalism
    -They hate the church
    -They hate religion
    -They hate the concept of profit
    -They hate the traditional family institution
    -They hate traditional values
    -They hate the concept of responsibility

    However, there are things that they do want:

    -They love moral equivalency (i.e, equating Abu Gareb to Auchwitz)
    -They love redistribution of wealth
    -They love government
    -They love they notion victumhood
    -They love socialism
    -They love anything anit-American
    You aren't serious............................................................ are you?
  9. #29  
    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    You aren't serious............................................................ are you?

    Nope... and they hate the military too...
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  10. #30  
    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-Dance
    I voted against GWB -- not against America. I presumed that's the same reason you didn't vote for Kerry. It is VERY American to vote your choice. [COLOR=Blue]"You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil...
    Yup that's exactly it... Most liberals (not specifically alluding to you) are so neurotically angry at GWB that they wish the worst for America just so they can remove him from power. In fact the angry liberal is why the dems lost in the first place (think Dean). They were more loyal to their party than they were for the overall good of the country... Of course some like Ward Churchill are just bonkers and hate America regardless...

    The Dems will not win another major election again until they stop being reactionaries and start offereing positive solutions, not just why they hate GWB. They need to sell the voters why they think America is 'great' and not why the US sucks, or why america is resposible for all the terrorism in the world, or why the US is destroying the environmnet, or why the US committed genocide in the 19th centuy , or why the US farm subsidies are immoral to 3rd world farmers, or why the US commite so called "illegal wars" b/c the UN and France didn't agree, and yada yada. Dems need to stop being just against Bush and also "for America" if they still remember how. Unless they do this, then can kiss the south goodbye and they will never be a national party ever again. Ironically, it may be Hillary who understands this the best (credit Willy), and why she is repositioning herself in the 3rd way similar to the way her husband famously and sucessfully was able to position.
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    #31  
    Quote Originally Posted by gfunkmagic
    Nope... and they hate the military too...
    You forgot they eat babies TOO?
  12. #32  
    This liberals are traitors and conservatives are patriots is getting kind of old. Don't any of you conservatives have any new material? What's the matter is O'Reilly factor in rerun?
  13. #33  
    Quote Originally Posted by cellmatrix
    This liberals are traitors and conservatives are patriots is getting kind of old. Don't any of you conservatives have any new material? What's the matter is O'Reilly factor in rerun?
    It must be true cuz you guys keep losing!
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    #34  
    Why is it that it has to be what s wrong with America.
    This country has been the most creative, giving protecting country in the history of mankind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g.711
    Why is it that it has to be what s wrong with America.
    This country has been the most creative, giving protecting country in the history of mankind.
    Care to explain what you mean by that? not sure what you mean..
    Using the most X in history in combination of america is a tricky road you are taking, the US has what is it 200 years of history, compare that to the thousands of years in europe and asia, I think you'll find that hard to compete with..
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  16. #36  
    I think the US is nr.1 in polarization at the moment.. that is the biggest problem I see nowadays, you are either this or that, there is no middle ground any more.
    The risk this brings that it kills proper dialogue and all you get is mud trowing..

    The US has great things and also less great things. But the 'we are nr.1 rethoric' is very cold war 80's rocky BS to me.. you are great at many things, but no country in the world is Nr. 1 in general. For some people the US it their best match, for many others another country is a better match.
    But the mayority lives in the land they were born in and identify with that, regardless of how good or bad it is.. very little people (on a global scale) actually move countries..
    If you do, you'll realize that no country is perfect, all have flaws..
    So to sum it up, There is no Nr. 1 (nor a spoon )
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  17.    #37  
    funny.. I hear no solutions from you "conservatives" either. I am free to post information that others may not be aware of or think about. you can bash me all you want. I don't see anyone of you disputing the information or acknowleging the shortcomings that, unfortunately, America is experiencing, nor offering a solution.

    Someone offered to help me leave... if you don't want to read something that is disagreeable to you, then you should be the one to move to a country that doesn't allow dissent and criticism... or push to make it illegal here, which is obviously what you want.
  18. #38  
    Quote Originally Posted by Chick-Dance
    I voted against GWB -- not against America. I presumed that's the same reason you didn't vote for Kerry. It is VERY American to vote your choice. "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating, at the top of his lungs, that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours!" That's America. And that's what makes me proud of being American.
    Nicely said. But I think it went over his head.
    Why can't people respond to this thread's topic and find ways to improve America, and instead are getting into an anti-liberal orgy?
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  19. #39  
    "Everything's a-ok dude, what problems? 4 more years! nyah nyah!"

    Quote Originally Posted by nudist
    funny.. I hear no solutions from you "conservatives" either. I am free to post information that others may not be aware of or think about. you can bash me all you want. I don't see anyone of you disputing the information or acknowleging the shortcomings that, unfortunately, America is experiencing, nor offering a solution.
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    Nice sound byte - and from a liberally biased movie too (The American President).
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