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    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    NRG believes Syria, China, North Korea and Iran.
    Great, lump em all together. NK and Iran, and for that matter China are the all same,.................................................not us. Us and Them metality, read about this and see where this has got any civilazation,............(i.e. Rome, Ottoman, etc.) it does NOT work. We are a world and we should work as such.
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    Hehehe, well actually I wasn't sure if I was a part of that group or not. That's why I asked. No worries then!
    None to be had.
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       #43  
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    Hehehe, well actually I wasn't sure if I was a part of that group or not. That's why I asked. No worries then!
    Why do you always get stuck in my crossfire? (This is twice)
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       #44  
    Quote Originally Posted by 1911sforever
    And your party continues to lurch leftward toward irrelevancy.

    I'm really looking forward to watching the Party of the Left and the Far Left shut down the senate in response to the Republlican's changing judicial confirmation rules.
    /this type statement is what really pisses ME OFF. Do you really think it is right to change the rules of the Senate to fit ANY parties wishes? I mean come on. How would you react if another party was in power and decided to change the rules to suit the needs of this paticular party? Or just wait till the pendulum swings as it always does, then see how it feels, bet you won't be singing the same song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Why do you always get stuck in my crossfire? (This is twice)
    Yeah, why is that? better learn to aim a bit better!

    Quote Originally Posted by NRG
    Great, lump em all together. NK and Iran, and for that matter China are the all same,.................................................not us. Us and Them metality, read about this and see where this has got any civilazation,............(i.e. Rome, Ottoman, etc.) it does NOT work. We are a world and we should work as such.
    While I agree with this in principal, I wonder if we as a whole will ever work together. There are so many differences, whether it's racial, political, geographic, religious....you name it. I think it'll be a long time before this fractured planet heals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treobk214
    Joke or not he hit the nail on the head.

    - nrg

    "we are seeing the bitterness of elites who wish to lead, confronted by MULTITUDES who do not wish to follow. "
    I did not ask you to lead me, nor did I ask you to follow me.
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       #47  
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertion
    Yeah, why is that? better learn to aim a bit better!

    While I agree with this in principal, I wonder if we as a whole will ever work together. There are so many differences, whether it's racial, political, geographic, religious....you name it. I think it'll be a long time before this fractured planet heals.
    I am right here with you. I want us all to work it out. I just think there is a better way to arrive at the end point than violence. We just need to realize we live in the same house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hsk
    Sure glad I live in Canada where liberalism is alive and well.
    I like Canada and all, but damn it is cold up there. You all up there are kinda like the states except with better healthcare, diplomacy, and cold a** weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treobk214
    nrg, look, your party is dying out. the signs are everywhere. there are no encouraging changes on the horizon for you to be heartened by either, so all you have left are these useless, transparent attacks on the republican party, who is quite frankly, "cleaning your clocks." try as you may, nrg, i believe your party is drifting further and further out to sea, and there`s no one of worth at the helm. bon voyage, democrats.

    US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT. march 2005
    page 60

    on society: by john leo

    can liberalism survive?

    Liberalism is now bookless and dying. The lack of new ideas and the utter absence of influential liberal thinkers is quite frankly, obvious.

    No real breakthrough in liberal thought and programs has occurred since the New Deal, giving liberalism its nostalgic, reactionary cast.

    Worse, their fundamental value is that society should have no fundamental values, except for a pervasive relativism that sees all values as equal.

    modern liberalism, says Harvard political philosopher Michael Sandel, has emptied the national narrative of its civic resources, putting religion outside the public square and creating a value-neutral "procedural republic"

    An old hero of liberalism, John Dewey said in 1897, that the practical problem of modern society is the maintenance of the spiritual values of civilization. not much room in liberal thought for that now.


    liberals have become the no-values culture

    The failure to perceive the importance of community has SERIOUSLY wounded liberalism and undermined its core principles. So has the strong tendency to convert moral and social questions into issues of individual rights, usually constructed and MASSAGED BY JUDGES to place them beyond the reach of majorities and the normal democratic process.

    since nov 2, the withering contempt of liberals for ordinary americans has been truly astonishing. voting for bush gave quite average americans a chance to feel superior.


    NRG, here is the best description of your current plight.. read below...


    "we are seeing the bitterness of elites who wish to lead, confronted by MULTITUDES who do not wish to follow. "

    many americans notice that liberalism nowadays lacks the vocabulary of right and wrong, declines to discuss virtue except in SNICKERING terms, and seems INCREASINGLY HOSTILE to prevailing moral sentiments.

    (this captures the essence of nudist`s and now just recently, nrg`s posts)

    consider the breakdown of universities. the fortresses of the 1960s cultural liberals and their progeny. students are taught that objective judgments are impossible. all knowledge is compromised by issues of power and bias. therefore there is no way to come to judgement about anything, since judgment itself rests on quicksand.

    this principle, however, is suspended when the united states and western culture are discussed, because the west is essentially evil and guilty of endless crimes.

    BETTER TO DECLARE A VAGUE TRANSNATIONAL IDENTITY AND ADMIRATION FOR THE UNITED NATIONS.

    the campuses indulge in heavy coercion and indoctrination. a sign of the times: The University of California`s academic assembly eliminated the distinction between " interested" and "disinterested" scholarship by a 45-3 vote.

    the campuses are politicized, and they dont care who knows it. Harvard is all atwitter because its president ran afoul of local orthodoxy, suggesting, ever so tentatively, that SEXUAL DIFFERENCES MIGHT BE A FACTOR IN CAREERS IN SCIENCE.

    in their bafflement over rejection of their product, liberals have been lacing their speeches with religious phrases and asking mainstream americans to vote their economic interests by rejecting republican fat cats.

    LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT WILL TAKE A BIT MORE THAN THAT.


    nrg, i believe the fat lady is on cue. the democrats are leaving the building. thankyou and goodnight.
    Forgot to add: [Sarcasm]Liberals eat babies fresh out of the womb[/Sarcasm]. Nice hate speech. Do you really believe this trash? Prove two(2) of these points within' your quotation and I will send you A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR TWO(2) (your all's favorite Hannity) TO RUTH CHRIS' STEAKHOUSE. Do it. Come on, I will check back to make sure.
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    nrg Canada healthcare is inferior to USA.

    You may not be a dem, but you appear to be a liberal that defends everything the democratic party believes.
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    nrg, you think your quip on bush grandstanding is nonbiased? pfft.

    that's the best you can do, to simply whine, " no right leaning slants, isn't it?"

    the fact is, its the truth. you can't and refuse to address it because it touches on the very heart of the matter.
    if you feel the obligation to make comments about bush, than I feel more than obligated to make biased or unbiased comments on your party. suddenly any and all criticism or you guys isn't fair is it? well if this isn't hypocrisy....
    the article highlights the sad truth about the democrats. and to quote from a damn good movie," you can't handle the truth".
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    better healthcare in Canada? better than what exactly. You ever been to the doc in Canada? Why you think so many canucks come here, cause our nurses are cuter?
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    "canada has better healthcare, diplomacy"?

    lol. I can't stop laughing. canada is a mess! people come down in droves drom canada to be treated medically in the us. socialist medicine ensures everyone gets medical care, but the standard of that quality of care is significantly lower than that of the US.
    diplomacy? another mess! canada is in political civil war up there! there is liberal scandal and corruption everywhere, and the canadian military is nonexistent.

    this is better? lol. I can't stop laughing at this!
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    ". Nice hate speech"

    hate speech? where was it in the above post where I said I HATED democrats? or thought they are EVIL?

    Can you find any instances where I give evidence of such hate?

    I provided an article which illustrates the basic problems deeply rooted in the demt
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    ...deeply rooted in the democratic party. why do you have a problem with that? if you can find problems with the repubs, why can't you stomach when others evaluate the problems with the opposing party?

    that's interesting, nrg
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    Man, is there anyone here who is equally disgusted with BOTH parties?
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    Doubt you'll find many people. If you have that opinion, please share it. I am sick of political bickering that restricts politicians getting anything done. I feel the biggest waste of time on both sides of the aisle are "congressional hearings". They'll have one on anything.

    What, someone slips on a piece of gum - bring in Wrigley's Co. for a congressional hearing.

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    Man, is there anyone here who is equally disgusted with BOTH parties?
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       #58  
    Quote Originally Posted by Advance The Man
    nrg Canada healthcare is inferior to USA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Woof
    better healthcare in Canada? better than what exactly. You ever been to the doc in Canada? Why you think so many canucks come here, cause our nurses are cuter?
    Are either two of you in Healthcare? I am, and I will tell you there isn't much difference between the health of either countries. (Report here and here is the short version . Both of you need not talk about, what you know nothing about. I view canadian healthcare better in the fact that ALL their citizens have access to healthcare, unlike our system.
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       #59  
    Quote Originally Posted by treobk214
    that's the best you can do, to simply whine, " no right leaning slants, isn't it?"

    the fact is, its the truth. you can't and refuse to address it because it touches on the very heart of the matter.
    if you feel the obligation to make comments about bush, than I feel more than obligated to make biased or unbiased comments on your party. suddenly any and all criticism or you guys isn't fair is it? well if this isn't hypocrisy....
    the article highlights the sad truth about the democrats. and to quote from a damn good movie," you can't handle the truth".
    See post #52
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    Well, I tend to vehemently disagree with much of the foreign and domestic policy of the Republican party, but all throughout Clinton's presidency I also held disdain for his (in)action on various points. I find that the Dems can be awfully weak-willed and aimless, and Republicans too short-sighted and draconian in their policies...the Green party is far too romantic, and I don't know much about libertarianism (except that I don't seem to agree with their fiscal policies, but like I said I need to learn more).

    I forgot to add that I too feel frustrated with the ceaseless partisan bickering on every damn issue, but it's going to be a common issue that will surface whenever it can due to different beliefs
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